[jackorer]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Yes, the reason is curse from God.



Of course, all those things are punishments of sins and sins are caused by making the choice of living life in sin. All of those can be cured with prayer, if the horrible sinner repents.

i said SCIENTIFIC, not religious... Religion doesn't prove anything.

And punishments for sins? What in the actual fuck? They are terrible diseases that can overcome anyone. You have to be retarded to think those are punishments for sins... cured with prayer? My ass. You have all been brainwashed so badly, it's beyond cure what you people have

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I can see that you believe gay is a choice (however it definately is NOT). But Down Syndrome is a choice? What the piffle is wrong with you people? (pardon my french) There is scientific evidence that shows why people with down syndrome are the way they are. So now what? Cancer, AIDS, etc are all life choices? I don't even... just horrible people. All of you that believe this are terrible human beings :s

Friend, all babies are born both pure and chock full of sin.

The moment that life begins (at the point of egg creation) the baby begins to make critical life altering choices. This choice making, a gift from God know as 'Free Will', continues until the persons last breath.

Why do you want to deny a persons right to choose?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

i said SCIENTIFIC, not religious... Religion doesn't prove anything.

And punishments for sins? What in the actual piffle? They are terrible diseases that can overcome anyone. You have to be retarded to think those are punishments for sins... cured with prayer? My ass. You have all been brainwashed so badly, it's beyond cure what you people have

Friend, Not a single True Christian(tm) ever is sick or has infirmities. On the other hand, every single sinner I know has all sorts of problems.

Tell me, what kinds of problems are you having? You know, if you let Him, Jesus will cure you. If you prove your devotion to God, anything is possible.

[Cranky Old Man]

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And punishments for sins? What in the actual piffle? They are terrible diseases that can overcome anyone. You have to be retarded to think those are punishments for sins... cured with prayer? My ass. You have all been brainwashed so badly, it's beyond cure what you people have

I am 76 years old and I have never been sick, ever. All it takes is believing in Jesus and prayer!

Matthew 21:22
King James Version (KJV)

22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

[Holy Henry]

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I can see that you believe gay is a choice (however it definately is NOT). But Down Syndrome is a choice? What the piffle is wrong with you people? (pardon my french) There is scientific evidence that shows why people with down syndrome are the way they are. So now what? Cancer, AIDS, etc are all life choices? I don't even... just horrible people. All of you that believe this are terrible human beings :s

You are obviously a vile God-Hating atheist of satan.

Scientific Evidence? I bet you won't find any outside of a book about monkeys.

[Jenny Rchards]

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YOU MAKE ME SO SICK! DOWN SYNDROME IS NOT A CHOICE!!! YOU SICK PERVERT! YOU THINK ANYONE WOULD CHOOSE THAT?!?!?!

[Mother Of Seven]

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Waiting ... waiting.. for that introduction. tap tap tap

[MitzaLizalor]

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YOU MAKE ME SO SICK! DOWN SYNDROME IS NOT A CHOICE!!! YOU SICK PERVERT! YOU THINK ANYONE WOULD CHOOSE THAT?!?!?!

While you are moisturising, perhaps you'd like to consider some of the "symptoms" described in The Bible and explain how come they are cast out by exorcism?

Obviously, The Bible does not use the expression "Down syndrome" because Dr Down had not been born when God's complete and inerrant word was recorded. But all of its so-called "symptoms" and "behaviours" are described and Jesus responded by casting the demons out.

Now sometimes God sends an evil spirit to attack someone (king Saul for example) but are you suggesting that He sends possessing demons to occupy babies? No, these demons are invited in by an act of will. Perhaps the child (or the parents or grandparents back as far as the 10th generation in some cases) did not fully understand the consequences of their choices. But that does not make them suddenly "NOT choices" does it?

Say I think I can fly and jump off a cliff. Well, I didn't have to make that choice. I mightn't have understood that in the event of non-flight the most likely outcome would be crashing headfirst into ground. But that doesn't mean it isn't a choice.

The thread details the sorts of choices resulting in the particular demon or demons, often there are several involved, and who makes them. Just imagine how that great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother feels now that the price she chose is being paid. Jesus is the only answer.

[Cranky Old Man]

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YOU MAKE ME SO SICK! DOWN SYNDROME IS NOT A CHOICE!!! YOU SICK PERVERT! YOU THINK ANYONE WOULD CHOOSE THAT?!?!?!

Living a life of luxury and pampering? Never having to work yet getting food and housing anyway? The surprising thing is that there are a few lazy democrats who didn't choose the down syndrome lifestyle.

[Des]

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Living a life of luxury and pampering? Never having to work yet getting food and housing anyway? The surprising thing is that there are a few lazy democrats who didn't choose the down syndrome lifestyle.

You good sir have just described the American penal system. I wonder if those moon faced mongoloids are as disgusting as the prison inmates and spend their days buggering one another while their lieberal Demonicrat caregivers look on and exclaim "Oh, they don't know any better!"

[MitzaLizalor]

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There are even special areas of education set up to accommodate demoniacs. Many Down syndrome participants in such learner groups are without language or have very truncated language skills. The Bible discusses this particular "symptom"

TESTIMONY FROM A CHRISTIAN DOCTOR

LUKE 11
14 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.
KJV .. look up 21 translations of this text HERE

When Jesus encountered this He did not say "here we see a manifestation of cognitive neuropsychological impairment deriving from microcephalia" did He? And perhaps there would be little point mentioning the neurological model at all; OK, we know that. But in other cases He was quite happy to say that although there was a cause which He knew about (because He created the universe) but which the locals did not know about He would effect the remedy even so. He did not go along with the prevailing superstition. He said the cause was not understood. In this example however the cause was understood not only by Luke (the doctor) but also by Jesus (the Creator).

The following example records demonic occupation of a species unknown to dhe disciples (but obviously not unknown to the Creator of the universe). Jesus is clear: He knew better than the disciples. But it is still demonic occupation.

MARK 9
17 And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;
18 And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.
19 He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
20 And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.
21 And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.
22 And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
26 And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.
27 But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.
28 And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?
29 And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.
KJV .. context

When the disciples or anyone else was in error, Jesus corrected them. Nothing associated with Down syndrome when described in The Bible is ever described in any terms other than demonic occupation. And I will evidently need to reiterate that the choice producing such an outcome need not be made by the afflicted soul. Parents and grandparents are quite capable of making such choices for their progeny. And back to the tenth generation. So the next time I see a post "why would anyone choose this?" and be sure I agree with the sentiment especially since God has explained the choice not leading to this outome it will be kindest just to ask where The Bible says these afflictions are NOT the result of a choice and to request a Scriptural reference to ANY of the "symptoms" not being demons.

Where ignorance or superstition blinded ancient understanding Jesus ALWAYS corrected the error. He NEVER did so in this case. Posters claiming otherwise need to post Scripture.

You really do.

[Jedediah]

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My son brought home a terrible end-of-term report card this past week. I'm worried the boy's decided to experiment with Down's Syndrome. Do all pre-teens go through this sort of rebellious phase, and how soon do they outgrow it? What's next, dope smoking?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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My son brought home a terrible end-of-term report card this past week. I'm worried the boy's decided to experiment with Down's Syndrome. Do all pre-teens go through this sort of rebellious phase, and how soon do they outgrow it? What's next, dope smoking?

I'm sorry to hear this, Brother Jed. I know it's common for some parents to relax on their First Time Obedience expectations of children. They think that their child, no longer a toddler or young child, is already polite and obedient, that this one time they don't respond right away is understandable. This kind of slacking off only increases excuses for the child who learns to play this game. I'm not saying you've been slacking off, but it could be that your boy has decided to go full retard in order to deflect the parental demands he would otherwise be expected to comply with at home.

When my children try out this trend, they are immediately "tomato staked." That is, they are tethered to me physically as well as spiritually. They are never out of my sight. This may make them feel awkward and uncomfortable at first, but the lesson they learn is of utmost importance - if they think their mother watching them use the bathroom, how much more does the Good Lord see into their heart? I always remind them that if they don't want to be tethered to me, if they don't want to be in the room when Mr. Etheldred performs his marital duties, if they don't want to watch their mother take care of her bathing and bathroom needs, they need to be trustworthy in my sight before they can be trustworthy out of my sight. How can they expect Jesus to be convinced He truly has their heart if their own mother isn't convinced she has their heart?

I find 6-10 months of constant tomato staking convinces them to give up their foolish ways, although one child did require 22 months to eventually learn the error of his ways.

Don't be discouraged, Brother. The LORD may be using this as an opportunity to witness to your child the importance of your child's unconditional love as expressed through unquestioning obedience.

I will keep you in my prayers.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

My son brought home a terrible end-of-term report card this past week. I'm worried the boy's decided to experiment with Down's Syndrome. Do all pre-teens go through this sort of rebellious phase, and how soon do they outgrow it? What's next, dope smoking?

Another factor to consider is "mimicking behaviour," itself a demon.

Driven by the choice to be unaccountabie for one's misdeeds (sin) these wretches are soon shown whom to mimic according to a system of criteria developed by demons.

Where Jesus restores severed body parts Luke 22:49-51 devils run a sort of reverse process to increase impairment. Perhaps your son seeing some imagined "nurture" resulting from tantrums by schoolfriends is experimenting with these mimicking behaviours but remember that it is always demonic activity and the direct result of relinquishing control over behaviour to evade personal responsibility. Certain bodily functions might seem to hard to manage so by letting go, that function may be controlled by a demon.

Christians accept personal responsibility indeed until the fact of being answerable for sin is accepted in full and our foul condition acknowledged, repentance is not possible. That is the difference between Christianity and secular indoctrination. One seeks The Truth, the other looks for a loophole to evade responsibility.

[MostlyWierdMorons]

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You all are absolutely ignorant, horrible people. why do you bother being alive. if you are all "gods" people then why and how could you say such horrible things about how people are born? Like, why do you even try to call yourselves good people? you hate on those who are helpless and claim that life is fully under gods help. even when he has never helped anyone at all. you all deserve to go to hell. your a demon in the form of a soul-less human.