[zackhjorth]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Oh, you've figured us out! People are such lazy parents that they spend years building machines that could probe into their germ cells and affect their body while undergoing meiosis, causing nondisjunction and an extra chromosome. And then a child "chooses" to keep this extra chromosome so that they wont have to do homework! Now, about being gay. If being gay is a choice, then you must obviously choose to be heterosexual every day. You wake up and tell yourself, "Man, that dudes so hot, but I think I'll stick with chicks a little longer and see how it works out."

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Oh, you've figured us out! People are such lazy parents that they spend years building machines that could probe into their germ cells and affect their body while undergoing meiosis, causing nondisjunction and an extra chromosome. And then a child "chooses" to keep this extra chromosome so that they wont have to do homework! Now, about being gay. If being gay is a choice, then you must obviously choose to be heterosexual every day. You wake up and tell yourself, "Man, that dudes so hot, but I think I'll stick with chicks a little longer and see how it works out."

A machine? Son, have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? It states that among competing hypotheses, the simpler hypothesis should be selected. Between your "machine engineering parents who are too lazy to teach manners but hard working enough to build DNA mutating machines," and Cranky's fact that that some people are simply too lazy to study, too lazy to work and even too lazy to wipe their own butts, which one do you honestly think is simpler?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Oh, you've figured us out! People are such lazy parents that they spend years building machines that could probe into their germ cells and affect their body while undergoing meiosis, causing nondisjunction and an extra chromosome. And then a child "chooses" to keep this extra chromosome so that they wont have to do homework!

Good grief, you Jesus-haters are always wanting to probe.

Now, about being gay. If being gay is a choice, then you must obviously choose to be heterosexual every day. You wake up and tell yourself, "Man, that dudes so hot, but I think I'll stick with chicks a little longer and see how it works out."

Of COURSE I choose to be normal, DUH!



Sure, there was a time when I pursued the sodomite deathstyle (after a prostate exam that went horribly wrong), but once Jesus offered to cleanse me with His sweet, sweet blood, I chose to be normal again.



YiC,

Zech

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Oh, you've figured us out! People are such lazy parents that they spend years building machines that could probe into their germ cells and affect their body while undergoing meiosis, causing nondisjunction and an extra chromosome. And then a child "chooses" to keep this extra chromosome so that they wont have to do homework!

Don't be fooled by the lies of tax gobbling scientists. Have you ever actually seen a "chromosome"? Exactly, you never did. They are a hoax created by scientist to confuse decent Christians.

[Zamininc]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Don't be fooled by the lies of tax gobbling scientists. Have you ever actually seen a "chromosome"? Exactly, you never did. They are a hoax created by scientist to confuse decent Christians.

Like I always say, scientist is a synonym for satanist.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Don't be fooled by the lies of tax gobbling scientists. Have you ever actually seen a "chromosome"? Exactly, you never did. They are a hoax created by scientist to confuse decent Christians.

I really don't understand what's so difficult. Demom possession has been known about for centuries now, it's really well extablished, confirmed by both Jesus (God) and Luke (a doctor) as has been posted many times. The administration of Bridewell was Christian and they knew how to identify demoniacs. We have many written records and also the more readily accessible record of Hogarth:

A Harlot's Progress [detail] [specific demoniac indicated]

click image to see more demoniacs + Christian overseer

Hogarth is regarded as a keen observer and a reliable source. Harlots are demon possessed of course as explained in The New Testament, I believe that particular demon is called Solicit. Many other "syndromes" and "conditions" described by the atheistic physicians of today are very plainly identified by Jesus (and Luke) as possessing demons. And the proof of the pudding is in the eating. At Jesus' word, they departed and the formerly possessed person is clothed (after getting dressed I suppose), sane and in their right mind, just as God intended. Is it seriously being suggested that demon possession is involuntary?

Sometimes I despair of this wretched world. Thank God for Jesus.

Mark 6:13 And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them. KJV . context

[John C. Coleman]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Oh, you've figured us out! People are such lazy parents that they spend years building machines that could probe into their germ cells and affect their body while undergoing meiosis, causing nondisjunction and an extra chromosome. And then a child "chooses" to keep this extra chromosome so that they wont have to do homework! Now, about being gay. If being gay is a choice, then you must obviously choose to be heterosexual every day. You wake up and tell yourself, "Man, that dudes so hot, but I think I'll stick with chicks a little longer and see how it works out."

What are you talking about? Cells? Chromosomes? GAY IS A CHOICE?!?! I think not. Friend you have been fooled by the lies of satanists err scientists…Well same thing really. Chromosomes, and cells aren't real. None of that bogus science is. How dare you suggest i wake up thinking that men are sexually attractive that is a violation of Leviticus 18:22 Exodus 20:14, and Matthew 5:32.

I am a Fundamentalist Christian. not some fudge packers butt slave.

[DerpyTheChameleon]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

This forum is not for expressing opinions based on "what we think" but for praising God. I gather that you do not agree with what He says.

Adam did not have a mother. There were no women in the world at that time and he lived in a sinless condition. Death did not exist. When God created Eve everything changed because she thought she knew better than God (she was wrong):

I TIMOTHY 2:14 And Adam was not deceiued, but the woman being deceiued was in the transgression:
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That brought sin into the world and with sin came death. Now wholly under the influence of SATAN she seduces Adam to his peril - and Adam became the first man to sin:

ROMANS 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sinne entred into the world, and death by sin: and so death passed vpon all men, for that all haue sinned..
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You seem to imagine that we still live in a sinless world where all things are "equal" (according to their status) and where nobody suffers for things they "haven't done" — but that is not the world described for us BY GOD who actually made it, in The Bible.

Children for 4 generations punished: Numbers 14:18
Children punished unto 10 generations: Deuteronomy 23:2
Contamination through "cross-cultural" marriage opens up the possibility of even more enduring retribution: Deuteronomy 23:3
Progeny degraded in perpetuity due to Canaan earning himself a curse (although not present when the vile act took place): Genesis 9

GENESIS 9:19-29 These are the three sonnes of Noah: and of them was the whole earth ouerspread. And Noah began to bee an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard. And he dranke of the wine, and was drunken, and hee was vncouered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakednesse of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Iaphet tooke a garment, and layed it vpon both their shoulders, and went backward, and couered the nakednesse of their father, and their faces were backward, and they saw not their fathers nakednesse. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his yonger sonne had done vnto him.
And he said, Cursed bee Canaan: a seruant of seruants shall hee be vnto his brethren. And hee saide, Blessed bee the LORD God of Shem, and Canaan shalbe his seruant. God shall enlarge Iaphet, and he shal dwel in the tents of Shem, and Canaan shalbe his seruant. And Noah liued after the flood, three hundred and fifty yeeres. And all the dayes of Noah were nine hundred & fifty yeeres, and he died.
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We do not know what transgression may have resulted in the affliction of children you regard as "innocent" or in what generation it may have occurred, but God is clear about the cause SIN and it is not necessary for anyone to form some "opinion" on the subject.

You have done so, and like Eve you think you know better than God. But now you are unable to plead ignorance of God's Word because I have posted scripture for you and linked to other passages. Joshua and Judges are two books which are very helpful in learning to appreciate God's Plan for Salvation and how important it is to accept His Perfect Love.

Sin can not be accommodated.

JOSHUA

JUDGES

Praise Him

I think you should watch a video called the Evolution of Satan. Satan was not the one who tempted eve in the garden, it was a snake. There are several different meanings of Satan in the bible. satan=Agent of destruction or punishment. This was used in several places to describe normal people betraying someone (becoming a satan) against them. It was also used to describe adversaries or rivals. There is also the definition of hassatan, or the satan. This was the first example of a non-human satan. This version of satan can't act outside of god's permission, has limited powers and is not the same satan mentioned in the new testament. In the new testament, Satan is a proper noun in the hebrew, and becomes the full blown opposer and ultimate evil that we see him as now. This is all taken from the original hebrew of the bible, so it's accurate.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I think you should watch a video called the Evolution of Satan. Satan was not the one who tempted eve in the garden, it was a snake.

*snip*

Where is the word "snake" mentioned in the Bible?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

...In the new testament, Satan is a proper noun in the hebrew...

The New Testament wasn't written in Hebrew.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_testament:

"...The New Testament is an anthology, a collection of Christian works written in the common Greek language of the first century, at different times by various writers, who were early Jewish disciples of Jesus of Nazareth. In almost all Christian traditions today, the New Testament consists of 27 books. The original texts were written in the first and perhaps the second centuries of the Christian Era, generally believed to be in Koine Greek, which was the common language of the Eastern Mediterranean from the Conquests of Alexander the Great (335–323 BC) until the evolution of Byzantine Greek (c. 600)..." <emphasis mine>

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I think you should watch a video called the Evolution of Satan. Satan was not the one who tempted eve in the garden, it was a snake. There are several different meanings of Satan in the bible. satan=Agent of destruction or punishment. This was used in several places to describe normal people betraying someone (becoming a satan) against them. It was also used to describe adversaries or rivals. There is also the definition of hassatan, or the satan. This was the first example of a non-human satan. This version of satan can't act outside of god's permission, has limited powers and is not the same satan mentioned in the new testament. In the new testament, Satan is a proper noun in the hebrew, and becomes the full blown opposer and ultimate evil that we see him as now. This is all taken from the original hebrew of the bible, so it's accurate.

Did you read the Scripture I posted? Here it is again:

I TIMOTHY 2:14
ROMANS 5:12

NUMBERS 14:18 Children for 4 generations punished: BECAUSE OF A CHOICE
DEUTERONOMY 23:2 Children punished unto 10 generations: BECAUSE OF A CHOICE
DEUTERONOMY 23:3 Contamination through cross-cultural "identities" even worse: BECAUSE OF A CHOICE
GENESIS 9:25 Progeny blasted in perpetuity: BECAUSE OF A CHOICE
JOSHUA 1–24 God's just retribution: BECAUSE OF A CHOICE
JUDGES 1–21 Real consequences for real people: BECAUSE OF A CHOICE

In all those examples, as you will see when you read them, the choices are lifestyle choices. All such choices are sinful and it is easy to see which people are suffering as a result of the "Sin" lifestyle. Suffering with demons. God does not blast at random. His justice is perfect. From the time of Eve's pollution right up to the hurling down it's all about choice.

REVELATION 12:9 Satan is blasted too: BECAUSE OF A CHOICE

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and nigh

Check out the original language here
Compare in particular the treatment of Satan in verse 9 with Michael and the dragon in verse 7

Of all the demons crouched beneath the bowels of the earth itching to get in you and mess you up not one has authority in its own right. Jesus knows that and we know that too. It is very easy to get them inside without knowing that's what you're doing although once they're ensconced you'll know quite well they're there. Their lusts become your lusts and you're utterly at their mercy. Except that they don't have mercy and the Down's demon in particular occupies infants before birth. Satan knew that required choices and successfully corrupted Eve. Eve communicated her foul lifestyle choices—sin, sin and more sin—to perfect Adam but Jesus sets us free. The proof of this pudding is in the eating: visit any Christian church and you will nary a demoniac see, especially no Down's demoniacs. Jesus has set them free.

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1. Ammonites and Moabites themselves resulted from a lifestyle choice read about it here
2. Canaan was not actually present for the genital viewing more here
3. Doubting that it was a lifestyle choice? then you need to read this

[wildcoyoyte]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I CANT WAIT UNTILL THE RAPTURE AND I CAN BE SAVED BY JESUS!!!

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I CANT WAIT UNTILL THE RAPTURE AND I CAN BE SAVED BY JESUS!!!

If you wait until the Rapture, you're gonna be in an afterworld of hurt.



Please go the the Introduction Forum and make a thread of your own telling us about your Fellowship with Jesus.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[jackorer]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I can see that you believe gay is a choice (however it definately is NOT). But Down Syndrome is a choice? What the fuck is wrong with you people? (pardon my french) There is scientific evidence that shows why people with down syndrome are the way they are. So now what? Cancer, AIDS, etc are all life choices? I don't even... just horrible people. All of you that believe this are terrible human beings :s

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

There is scientific evidence that shows why people with down syndrome are the way they are.

Yes, the reason is curse from God.

Cancer, AIDS, etc are all life choices?

Of course, all those things are punishments of sins and sins are caused by making the choice of living life in sin. All of those can be cured with prayer, if the horrible sinner repents.