[Dancing With Myself]

Re: Euthanasia

I'd start talking and acting like a TC.

Spoken like a true hero.

*Golf claps*

[Nobar King]

Re: Euthanasia

What do you know about heroes, Jesus hater?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Euthanasia

We live in a world where Euthanasia has been a very serious problem since before Jesus Christ’s time.

A problem for whom? references

Right now Euthanasia is illegal in 99% of the world’s countries, (Switzerland and Holland it is not) however; people are still practicing it even though it’s illegal.

A case or 2 quoted would help

People mainly perform such an act out of compassion for their love ones but there have been reported cases of when people use Euthanasia as an excuse to claim heritage money or where people have been Euthanized without their consent.

references?

If Euthanasia would be were legalized then it would be harmful to society and therefore should remain illegal. Euthanasia can may become a means of reducing medical expenses by sacrificing ending someone’s a life, and inhibiting research into terminal illnesses – what point a cure for Motor Neurone Disease if all patients request to die. Just as in a 30mph speed limit, drivers will typically drive at up to 35mph, there is a “creep effect” and the boundaries set for euthanasia It can may become blurred and eventually non-voluntary and is a rejection of the importance and value of human life.
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At the International Symposium on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide, three women with disabilities spoke about their concerns relating to how legalizing euthanasia would affect the attitude towards people with mental and/or physical disabilities. A speaker from Holland, whose grandfather was euthanized against his will, reminded us that the most recent Dutch government report recorded 550 cases where patients were euthanized without their consent in 2005. At the same Symposium, experts have indicated their concerns that with legalized euthanasia; fragile people who are near death and people with disabilities may feel unwanted and request euthanasia. “This may make the right to die become the duty to die.” Also, one of the problems which involves of making Euthanasia legal may make suiciding committing suicide seem like a normal and acceptable thing to do.

It is very hard to know whether a person who is mentality unstable wants to be euthanized or not because by the time the officials ask him, he may not be in a proper state of mind to make such a decision or have changed his mind since last being asked. As to knowing the same thing for children, it’s a completely different subject that might clash into abortion. Most of the time, children aren’t smart experienced and mature enough to know what they want and aren’t aware of what’s happening most of the time. Since people cannot always express themselves, euthanasia may be seen as the best option they will resort to. The number one worry about euthanasia is that there is always a chance of mistakes which will result in the loss of somebody’s life which is considered to be murder. (Mistakes are not murder, they are manslaughter) This is why euthanasia should remain illegal.

You need to address and dismiss the arguments that others will mount in favour of euthanasia.
Particularly where someone is in screaming agony and nothing can save him and he will die in a day or two in any case or where a degenerative illness has meant that his life is one of constant intolerable pain.

The above should address the perfectly sane and rational person who knows his future.

Should euthanasia be legal in countries where there are no pain-killing drugs or where they are so expensive, no one can afford them? Or should the patient be kept alive in violent pain even when death is the only outcome.

The question of inheritance is not the same the world over – under Islamic Sharia law, the order of inheritance is fixed by God. There is no advantage to turning euthanasia into murder.

To avoid charges being brought against the person helping the other die, could you think of a law that would help? If so, why is this unsatisfactory.

You should also explain why euthanasia is appropriate of animals, which are less than mankind, but not OK for man. We feel sorry for animals – why do we not feel sorry for humans who are suffering?

You should ask and answer the question, “Whose life is it anyway?” What concern is it to others if I want to die? Suicide is not illegal in most countries but assisting a suicide is.

Explain why you are saying that a man may kill himself but not aid someone (e.g. his wife) whose life is intolerable, yet she has not the ability to carry out the suicide. Compare this with the man helping his wife take meds and not helping the wife take meds.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Euthanasia

Spoken like a true hero.

Wait...do you sick internet goths not refer to someone as an hero if they've committed the sin of self-murder, and thus deprived Baby Jesus of the pleasure of killing them? Do you know something we don't?

*Golf claps*

Is that some horrific new STD, or did you just spell goff wrong?

[Dancing With Myself]

Re: Euthanasia

Thank you Ezekiel Bathfire and everyone else who contributed in the discussion and to those who try to help clear up a few of my gray areas.

Your help and attention was very much appreciated.

[madguitarist]

Re: Euthanasia

My thoughts on euthanasia, are as follows...

It may seem heartless to make someone suffer through a terrible illness, but if God wanted them to die, He'd call them home, or send them to hell.

One could argue that modern medicine, is delaying him from doing his work with all of the lifesaving equipment that has been developed over the years. In the early days, there were no life-support machines and respirators to preserve otherwise dead people's lives. This made things a lot easier, because it was simple. No breathing+No pulse=dead. With all of this medical advancement, has come confusion as to what is defined as dead.

People have the choice and right to refuse medical aid if they carry a DNR certificate with them. If you die when you have a DNR certificate, it is illegal for anyone to try to revive you. I believe that this is the right way to go about it. You are neither commiting suicide, nor causing someone to murder you. However, it's a double edged sword in that if you could be easily saved and live a full-life, you would die without the chance to do so. All of the people in favor of euthanasia could have saved themselves a lot of trouble if the patient had commited to a DNR and/or refused medical treatment at the onset of their ailment.

It's a tough choice to make, but it's something to think about if you are in the early stages of a terminal illness, or are afraid of becoming a vegetable in the event of an unexpected medical dilemma.

Why do I disagree with euthanasia? It is a copout for not having the sense and courage to accept your fate off the hop, and in having someone else do it for you, it is not suicide. They can call it assisted suicide all they want, but it's nothing more than consentual murder.

If a being is born unable to communicate their choice to live or die and does not die, then it should be reasonable to assume that they've chosen to live. At any given time, a human can choose to die by refusing food, water, care, and medical attention. If they wanted to or were supposed to die, then they would have done so.

Mankind has done the idiotic in finding ways to "resurrect" the dead through medicine, as it has created this dilemma. Had we left things up to God, we'd have no dilemma in regards to euthanasia, as it would not exist. Killing another being, would be murder, and killing oneself would be suicide. Dying as a result of not seeking or refusing medical attention, food or water, would be death by natural causes.

Ultimately though, God chooses who gets to die, and I think that His leaving people on life-support, is a way of telling mankind that we messed up in trying to take control of our mortality. He could choose to make the machines fail, but He leaves them running to make the people around the victim suffer for being so arrogant as to try and stop Him from doing His bidding.