[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

I'm sure the money was received. What Samuel should be asking is how it was spent. Is there any document showing the plane is on order with an estimated time of delivery? I know aircraft usually takes a bit of time but the faithful would love to know that their dollars have been spent as promised.
That's money that could have gone for a perfectly good pie, you know.

Please, Naomipie, let's not get the management concepts you use in your pie business with management of the $ million plus we need for Pastor Zeke's Airbus, White Eagle. We're faced with competition and we need move quickly. Pastor Zeke will provide accountability for the funds in due course.

At this moment, Creflo Dollar is hurting because he will have a smaller aircraft than Pastor Zeke. He may react in unpredictable ways. He may steal our donors. He may steal your pies.

Be alert.

[Naomi Ruth Lamb]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

I'm sure the money was received. What Samuel should be asking is how it was spent. Is there any document showing the plane is on order with an estimated time of delivery? I know aircraft usually takes a bit of time but the faithful would love to know that their dollars have been spent as promised.

That's money that could have gone for a perfectly good pie, you know.

[Esther B.]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

I'm afraid this depends on a number of factors. If we find a church jet that is more expensive than Pastor Ezekiel's jet we are just going to have to buy a new one so we might as well gather as many funds as we can right now.

Of course, Brother! Samuel and his family would like to donate another $500,000.

Also, Samuel would like to know if all of his previous donations have been received.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Samuel would also like to know how much more money is needed before Pastor Ezekiel can get his new plane (he asked me to ask).

I'm afraid this depends on a number of factors. If we find a church jet that is more expensive than Pastor Ezekiel's jet we are just going to have to buy a new one so we might as well gather as many funds as we can right now.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

What TSA agent is going to let an illiterate nigra board a plane bound for the middle east? Does he honestly think a stewardess is going to serve a baggage handler?

If God wanted him to fly, he'd of given him wings.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

True Christians™, we have to keep moving on this. Now, Creflo Dollars thinks Jesus has made him unstoppable--no one can stop him from believing Jesus wants him to have a $65 million dollar Gulfstream. When he realizes Pastor Zeke will have a $100 Airbus, who is to say Creflo will not hear a new message from Jesus that he needs one too. We need to drain the pond of money before Creflo starts taking from our donors.


Creflo Dollar Slams Critics: 'If I Want to Believe God for a $65 Million Plane, You Cannot Stop Me'

April 22, 2015|1:48 pm

(Photo: Screen Grab via YouTube)Televangelist Creflo Dollar postures as he rips critics for talking about his appeal for million from the public to purchase a luxury jet for his ministry.

After coming under heavy criticism for asking the public for $65 million dollars to purchase a luxury airplane for his ministry last month, popular televangelist and founder of World Changers Church International Creflo Dollar responded in spectacular defiance in a recent message to his church declaring: "If I want to believe God for a $65 million plane, you cannot stop me."
"Let me tell you something about believing God — I can dream as long as I want to. I can believe God as long as I want to. If I want to believe God for a $65 million plane, you cannot stop me. You cannot stop me from dreaming," he said in a clip of the message posted on YouTube showing his congregants rising to their feet and cheering in approval.
"You cannot stop me from dreaming. I'm gon' dream until Jesus comes. And here's another thing I want you to understand. … If they discover life on Mars, if you think a $65 million plane was too much, if they discover that there's life on Mars, they gon' need to hear the Gospel and I'm gon' have to believe God for a billion dollar space shuttle because we got to preach the Gospel on Mars," he said.
"I dare you to tell me I can't dream. I dare you to tell me that I can't believe God. If I find Jesus, I'm gonna look at Jesus until it comes to pass, because with God all things are possible to him that believe. And so, I say to you, dream on. Dream on baby, don't dream on what you can have, dream about what the devil says you can't have. Dream for the best. Dream for the best healing. Dream for the best deliverance; dream for the best house. Dream for the best car. Just 'cause the world don't have it, doesn't mean you can't have it. You are the children of the Almighty God. Dream, dream," he told his adoring congregants.
Dollar explained earlier in the message that he felt led by the Spirit of God to address the issue of the plane and other rumors circulating about his life because his critics are determined to discredit his voice and his ministry.

"And therefore, yesterday, they were transferring me from one county to the other one. I sure wished somebody woulda told me. Found out my real name is not Creflo Dollar. You know what it is? It's Michael Smith," he said, addressing a number of online rumors.

"Found out that none of y'all can ever get in the dome unless you show your W-2 form. What you say? Are you listening to what I'm saying? The enemy has got to discredit the voices of faith and grace and truth because he don't want you to know that you can walk on the water if you can look at Jesus. I've got to discredit that man before he starts showing people Jesus," he continued.
He further explained that he never once asked any member of his congregation to donate to the $65 million airplane fund because he has three million donors around the world who contribute to his ministry and people have been giving to help him get a new jet for his ministry.
The Christian Post had contacted his ministry earlier to find out how much money was collected but received no response. Dollar's team also repeatedly promised that the televangelist would sit with this reporter to address public concerns about his ministry but the Lord apparently had another plan.
"We are in the midst of a great fight. The enemy, like he always have, is trying to stop the preaching of Jesus and we're not gonna stop. I never one time, you can attest to it. I never one time came to you for a dime and asked you for an airplane, did I?" Dollar asked his congregants.
He then mocked headlines highlighting the request roundly declared sheer extravagance by the general public.
"'Creflo Dollar asking his members for $65 million. I ain't never asked you for a dime. We've got over 3 million partners around the world, 3 million donors around the world who support the ministry so I can get to where they are. I had a man from the Middle East send a letter to say they cut off my relative's head. We need you in the Middle East, here's a check right here for that plane," said Dollar.
"You understand what I'm saying? You cannot stop and you cannot curse what God has blessed. Are you listening to me? Half the people that are commenting on the Internet don't even know me. They don't know this ministry. They don't know what we do. That's why they ask the question: 'What does a preacher need with an airplane? If you knew what we did then you wouldn't ask that question. But you don't know what we do," he ended in the clip.

[Esther B.]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Samuel and his family have decided to donate another $200,000. Samuel would also like to know how much more money is needed before Pastor Ezekiel can get his new plane (he asked me to ask).

[Alvin Moss]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Creflo is a false preacher. He is an acolyte of Reverend Ike. They are both greedy for money, cars and whores. Their tribe has a few White men in it. Joel Osteen of Houston, which city God recently flooded for the affronts of the Houstonians, is one. So is Jimmy Swaggert. There is a special spot in Hell for the likes of these men.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Creflo is going DOWN, Brothers and sisters. He will have to answer to his master satan, and I KNOW that he's headed for hellfire.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Creflo Dollar is watching this campaign and it is driving him nuts. During yesterday's sermon, he said he was not a prosperity preacher at all--his jet and the money he pockets belongs to God. Then, his eyes got really big, like he didn't believe what he just said.


Megachurch Preacher Creflo Dollar Says 'There's No Such Thing as the Prosperity Gospel;' Says 'Money in My Pocket … It's God's'

(Photo: Screen Grab via Your World With Creflo)Televangelist Creflo Dollar declares the money in his pocket belongs to God.

After coming under fire for asking 200,000 people to donate $300 or more each to raise $65 million to help his ministry purchase a luxury jet last month, popular televangelist Creflo Dollar, who is widely reported to be worth an estimated $27 million, has declared that "there is no such thing as the prosperity gospel" and the money in his pocket belongs to God.
"When we talk about prosperity, and people say it's the prosperity gospel, there is no such thing as the prosperity gospel, it's the gospel of grace. The money in my pocket is not mine, it's God's," said Dollar, in a promotional clip for an episode of "Your World With Creflo" where he speaks with pastor Gregory Dickow of Life Changers International Church.





"It came from Him. He is the source behind everything we have that is good. He loves to be trusted; He loves to be the one that you lean on. He loves to be the one that you rely on and He wants to be the one that you lean on and rely on first," continued Dollar in the clip.

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The popular Atlanta, Georgia-based preacher who turned 53 in January, is recognized around the world as one of the most popular preachers of the prosperity gospel that promotes the notion that Jesus wants his followers to be wealthy. It is a controversial concept that religion scholar Reza Aslan has described as a "profoundly unscriptural" interpretation of Jesus.
"The argument of the prosperity gospel, if I can put it flippantly, is that Jesus wants you to drive a Bentley. That is basically what the argument is. That what Jesus wants for you is material prosperity, and that if you literally give, you will literally be given tenfold. That's not a metaphor, as it is in most churches. It is literal. You give me $10 and Jesus will give you $100," said Aslan, speaking at the 2014 Indian Summer Festival in Vancouver about his book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth.
"I mean, if there is one thing that is just so clear cut and just not open to interpretation at all of any kind when it comes to Jesus' message, it is His condemnation of wealth," he noted.
"And yet, not only does this version of Christianity exist, as I say, it is honestly the fastest growing version of Protestant evangelical Christianity in North America. That's because Jesus can be whatever you want Him to be, and the Christian message can be whatever you want it to be," he added.
In his messages, Dollar condemns poverty as ungodly.
"Poverty is not the will of God for any believer. However, there are Christians who have taken a 'vow of poverty' because they believe that poverty is a part of being holy and righteous. This is far from the truth," he said in an article on his website titled "Your Inheritance of Wealth and Riches."
"Poverty has nothing to do with godliness, or God — likeness. To be poor, or impoverished, means, 'to be without; in lack; deprived.' You and I don't serve a God of lack and insufficiency. He is the God of the exceeding and the abundant. In fact, He wants to lavish you with His goodness (Ephesians 3:20)," he said.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Deborah and I are happy to help since we don't want nigras flying around all over this country - think of what the Japs did to Pearl Harbor! I would imagine nigras are almost as bad as muslims behind the steering wheel of an airplane machine. I know some will think we harbor prejudice but as anyone here will attest, Landover is not a place where anyone is talked about that doesn't deserve it. Amen?

Anyway, put us down for $100,000 now and another hundred thousand next month and so on.

We adore Pastor Ezekiel Flint and had the pleasure of hearing his father many years ago. We saw him not long after that whole orphanage scandal hit him but I won't bring that up now - those boys were probably possessed and made it all up. And besides - it's over after all these years.

Enjoy your flying machine, Zekie (that's what your dad used to call you as he held you on his lap and bumped you up and down).

Lovingly in Our Redeemer,
Shadrach and Deborah
These lambs have a leg up on the devil - so he better flee!

Budgeting for a pastor's aircraft is a very serious business. I hope your soul is prepared for the consequences if you renegotiate on us.

[Shad and Deb Lamb]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Deborah and I are happy to help since we don't want nigras flying around all over this country - think of what the Japs did to Pearl Harbor! I would imagine nigras are almost as bad as muslims behind the steering wheel of an airplane machine. I know some will think we harbor prejudice but as anyone here will attest, Landover is not a place where anyone is talked about that doesn't deserve it. Amen?

Anyway, put us down for $100,000 now and another hundred thousand next month and so on.

We adore Pastor Ezekiel Flint and had the pleasure of hearing his father many years ago. We saw him not long after that whole orphanage scandal hit him but I won't bring that up now - those boys were probably possessed and made it all up. And besides - it's over after all these years.

Enjoy your flying machine, Zekie (that's what your dad used to call you as he held you on his lap and bumped you up and down).

Lovingly in Our Redeemer,
Shadrach and Deborah
These lambs have a leg up on the devil - so he better flee!

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Why is Creflo Dollar shopping for new airplane? It's because he hired one of his friends from the ghetto to fly his last one:

[Faith_Machine]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Pastor Zeke, but aren't all of your sermons copyrighted? I hope you've forwarded this info to Landover Legal for their careful consideration.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The New Jet Aircraft for Pastor Zeke Committee.

Folks, we need to kick this project into gear. That false Christian charlatan Creflo is doing everything he can to undermine my Ministry. Now he's acting like HE was the one who came up with the message that Pokerman causes homersexurality. Can you imagine? That is MY turf, Brothers and sisters, and you all know it!

People, I NEED this plane to show Creflo what a REAL Man of God© looks like. Dig deep, call everyone you know, sell your second homes, cash in some stocks, do whatever it takes to GET ME MY PLANE!