Death of Understanding

[LightofTruth]

Having recently read an article depicting Super Mario as a homosexual satanist, I have but one word to say to the Moderator responsible for the thread.

Wow. I have some things I need to get off my chest.

To be fair, some of your comments are grossly mislead and uninformed, almost as though these "facts" were fabricated. Surely, and I address this to the highest chain of command here (excl. GOD(?)), you must realize that many outsiders, who are perfectly normal human beings, are so stupified by your "reasoning" that they are in disbelief as to whether forum can be taken seriously.
In short, many find this forum a joke.
I found myself ready to flame this forum, but I can be reasonable, and want to try to help you.

Facts generally are pieces of information that are non-disputeable in any way (ie. Darwinism). Now some religious zealots honestly believe that the Bible is possessed of facts. Truth is, religion is as far away from being factual as possible. It is an example of its polar opposite.
Treating religious quotes and events as fact distorts the truth and misleads the people.

Also, your fierce defending of your ideals in the face of fact brings up one thought: control.
This forum is all about control. Pro-Republican, pro-God, anti-everything but what the Bible says is ok. Ban all who dispute this. Such actions bring up thoughts of facism.

Now, I will say I am infuriated with your racism against the Japanese (referring to them as chinks, which is Chinese). Surely grown-ups don't need to make blatant racist remarks, especially ones as pure and devout as the moderators and pastors.

And you are extremists. Cold hard truth is, religion is dying. Sure, it was needed for cultural development many centuries ago, but now it is a loose appendage that refuses to fall off.

By the way, I am aethiest. I don't belive in a higher power. I make my own destiny. I am in control. And I am Damn proud of it.

Well, that's it I think. But before I go, 2 quick things.

"When one is deluded, it is called insanity.
When millions of people are deluded, it is called religion."

[JennyD]

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Hmm. How . . . Epicurious of you.

1. He's capable of preventing evil, but since He creates it, why would He want to stop it?
2. Malevolent? He creates peace AND evil. Nobody here will tell you God is all kindless and joy.
3. I already told you. God creates evil.
4. Because He created the universe, and has the power to cast you into eternal torture in the Hell he has created for the sole purpose of torturing sinners and unbelievers forever and ever, amen. Sounds like a darned good couple of reasons to me.

Oh, what exactly have atheists, a small minority of the world's population, been "winning"? Heck, even the Demoncrat candidate for President is a vocal supporter of Faith-Based Initiatives and restrictions on abortion.

Enjoy Hell, sinner!

[LightofTruth]

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Huh, you assume that all people are like-minded. You are brainwashed. Darwinism ends this because it is fact, not a bunch of stories that people have revolved their lives around. And FYI, why would God create evil if he was our benefactor?

[Sledge Riprock]

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Having recently read an article depicting Super Mario as a homosexual satanist, I have but one word to say to the Moderator responsible for the thread.

Wow. I have some things I need to get off my chest.

To be fair, some of your comments are grossly mislead and uninformed, almost as though these "facts" were fabricated. Surely, and I address this to the highest chain of command here (excl. GOD(?)), you must realize that many outsiders, who are perfectly normal human beings, are so stupified by your "reasoning" that they are in disbelief as to whether forum can be taken seriously.
In short, many find this forum a joke.
I found myself ready to flame this forum, but I can be reasonable, and want to try to help you.

Facts generally are pieces of information that are non-disputeable in any way (ie. Darwinism). Now some religious zealots honestly believe that the Bible is possessed of facts. Truth is, religion is as far away from being factual as possible. It is an example of its polar opposite.
Treating religious quotes and events as fact distorts the truth and misleads the people.

Also, your fierce defending of your ideals in the face of fact brings up one thought: control.
This forum is all about control. Pro-Republican, pro-God, anti-everything but what the Bible says is ok. Ban all who dispute this. Such actions bring up thoughts of facism.

Now, I will say I am infuriated with your racism against the Japanese (referring to them as chinks, which is Chinese). Surely grown-ups don't need to make blatant racist remarks, especially ones as pure and devout as the moderators and pastors.

And you are extremists. Cold hard truth is, religion is dying. Sure, it was needed for cultural development many centuries ago, but now it is a loose appendage that refuses to fall off.

By the way, I am aethiest. I don't belive in a higher power. I make my own destiny. I am in control. And I am Damn proud of it.

Well, that's it I think. But before I go, 2 quick things.

"When one is deluded, it is called insanity.
When millions of people are deluded, it is called religion."

Listen you miserable piece of Satan's excrement, I'll put up with quite a lot, considering what I've been through. But your Vileness I'll not abide. And I can assure you that you will not survive long to spread the Ungodly spew of your obviously infected brain. God gave you life and you repay Him by stomping into His Chosen Forum and vomitting forth such BLASPHEMY! Your Path is Traced and I know where it ENDS. And it will be a painful ending, I can assure you. Of all who post here, I am uniquely qualified to tell you that you will amount to NOTHING here on God's earth and that your torment in The Afterlife is assured. I can also assure you that your utter IGNORANCE as to the true PURPOSE of the TRUE CHRISTIANS™ here will someday be revealed to you, and on that day you will understand the COLOSSAL error you have made here tonight!

[Roberta]

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you guy were lucky you drop atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. we were plan on rebuild those city anyway. you did us favor and save us money on wrecking ball and dynamite. if you guy were drop on different city we would have total kick your ass okay.

This is a typical post by a heathen chink. Clearly this slant is not here seeking Salvation. Our colored visitors are generally sincere and some even join our ex-negro program. The queers would have us believe that it is perfectly normal to bugger each other in spite of the rising incidence of the AIDS.

If you came here with the sole intention of flaming LBC, then please just go away. You will be banned anyway. If, on the other hand, a little voice in your head keeps reminding you that you're a sinner every time you play with your genitals, then stay with us. We will show you how you, too, can be washed clean by the blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Lovingly,

Roberta

[LightofTruth]

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Listen you miserable piece of Satan's excrement, I'll put up with quite a lot, considering what I've been through. But your Vileness I'll not abide. And I can assure you that you will not survive long to spread the Ungodly spew of your obviously infected brain. God gave you life and you repay Him by stomping into His Chosen Forum and vomitting forth such BLASPHEMY! Your Path is Traced and I know where it ENDS. And it will be a painful ending, I can assure you. Of all who post here, I am uniquely qualified to tell you that you will amount to NOTHING here on God's earth and that your torment in The Afterlife is assured. I can also assure you that your utter IGNORANCE as to the true PURPOSE of the TRUE CHRISTIANS™ here will someday be revealed to you, and on that day you will understand the COLOSSAL error you have made here tonight!

Well then, if everything you believe is correct, then I will burn in Hell. However, if any of the hundreds of other religions are correct, some which have numbers in the billions, I will not, unless I infringe upon something extreme. But of course, religion should be taken with a grain of salt. We don't need a reenactment of the Crusades, or another holy war because of people like you.

You my friend are more blind, deaf, and dumb than Hellen Keller herself. Making you see sense is like moving a mountain.

Step off. Go socialize with normal people, and learn for yourself that there's more to life than religious devotion.

[LightofTruth]

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Oh, and God did not create me. I would go into explaining that, but surely you learned your elementary school sex ed, or perhaps your parents explained it to you.

[Sledge Riprock]

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The word MISGUIDED is completely inadequate to describe you. You have no COMPREHENSION of the power against which you tilt. I would suggest that you read the King James 1611 Version of the Bible, but I'm certain you are to firmly in Satan's grip to be Saved even by the Word of God itself. And you're probably gay too. So off with you Sodomite, go spread your AIDS elsewhere. We have no need for your here faggot.

[LightofTruth]

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Avoiding the question and fabricating insults?

Yeah, you do your religion great justice, douche.

Get your head out of your ass. You think you are the one true religion? What makes you so special?
How can everyone else be wrong when you have no facts?

And I'll stand against whatever powers I want. Humanity has defied nature many times, and I am not afraid to do so. So summon your "God", and have him judge me, if he so exists.

[Mister Brasil]

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Humanity has deified nature many times, and I am not afraid to do so.

Just what I thought: a wicker!

[Mrs. Rogers]

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And FYI, why would God create evil if he was our benefactor?

Purely for Himself; after all, He does so much for everyone else, He gets very limited "Me" time. We should not begrudge the LORD His little whims.

If the LORD creates an evil person for no other reason than to destroy that person later, who are we to grumble about it?

[Filet-o-fish]

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My, my, Mr. Truth. You do certainly seem to be quite high strung. Have you considered repenting?

But of course, religion should be taken with a grain of salt.

And should not atheism be as well? The disbelief in a higher power is no reason to eschew reason: logic in the hands of the illogical is a powerfully destructive tool indeed. Through your lovely little diatribe, can you truly claim yourself to be above anyone here? Can you claim to have any moral superiority; is your rage quite as justified as you might have thought?

Extremism is quite as dangerous in atheism as it is in religion, and I would quite urge you to realise that.

Darwinism ends this because it is fact, not a bunch of stories that people have revolved their lives around. And FYI, why would God create evil if he was our benefactor

Darwinism is theory only. Most of science, in fact, is conjecture and theory. That does not mean it is wrong, only that we do truly know far less than we might think.

To your second point, perhaps God is a voyeur? Perhaps He has granted free will to humans, that they may create all the violence and war they will? The human mind begins as a relatively blank slate, pushed side to side by the influences of society, one's upbringing, and one's own understanding of the world. Whether it turns to good or evil is entirely the fault (though truly 'fault' is not entirely the correct word, as it is decided only by the individual and rather influenced by the rest) of humanity. To blame God shows one's own insecurity and myopic understanding of both religion and human nature and tendencies.

And so I would thoroughly urge you to reconsider your arguments, and even if you do have any arguments. Disagreement does rarely constitute need for acts of violence, physical or otherwise. In arguing religion or lack thereof, there shall never be a correct side of the debate (nor necessarily a wrong side either), but merely two factions that have reached an impasse.

[David_the_Brave]

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My, my, Mr. Truth. You do certainly seem to be quite high strung. Have you considered repenting?

There's hope for us all!

[Pinecone]

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Surely, and I address this to the highest chain of command here (excl. GOD(?)),

This seems to me like the first step in the right direction. You have concerns which you need to express to someone with control. I hope you find this satisfying. Christians and some other thiests benefit from the distinct advantage of having something greater to take our worldy woes to. Might want to try it one for size, it's the perfect fit for those times when you know the problem is you.

you must realize that many outsiders, who are perfectly normal human beings, are so stupified by your "reasoning" that they are in disbelief as to whether forum can be taken seriously.

First of all, I would challenge your definition of normal. In my opinion, a normal individual detached from the religion should be able to consider the arguments presented in a rational and worldy fashion. If you can understand it, there's no reason it should affect you, right? Athiesm is stepped in this great intellectual tradition, I don't understand how unconventional rhetoric can so easily knock you off your feet.

Facts generally are pieces of information that are non-disputeable in any way (ie. Darwinism).

Your information on this particular point is innacurate. Darwinism is a theory, the scienticific community has yet to validate it into the realm of scientific law. Consider also, as times change even scientific laws can be proven false as is the case recently with some of Newton's Laws. Advanced theorum and calculation have proven Newton's origional concepts to be flawed. To call something a fact is to admit that you have yet to find a contradiction, but to assume that simply because you have not found it, it does not exist is presumptuous and sloppy.

As far as Darwinism is concerned, if you can show me in the Bible where it proclaims micro-evolution never occurs, I'll tip my hat to you sir. the bottom line is Darwin was able to observe changes in specialization over time in the finch community. Where things become unclear is exactly the method Darwin uses to extrapolate backwards and claim man evolved from lower order primates which evolved further from even less specialized organisms. Science has never vouched for his theories of origin of species due to the fact it peters off as soon as he leave the Gallapagos islands. His evidence collected on specialization was admirable and his contribution important, but if you intend to bear him as a shield against the belief of creationism, he's more of a tin badge than a kite shield (bird joke intended).

Now some religious zealots honestly believe that the Bible is possessed of facts.

Scietifically speaking, the Bible does contain many historical, geographical, and archealogical truths. Many of scriptures detailing the social collective and sociatal regulation are shared in many abstracts on culture and social science. Plenty of so called "rational" people agree on a diverse array of varrying information derived from the Bible.

Treating religious quotes and events as fact distorts the truth and misleads the people.

This is of course going under the assumption that the religious quotes and events are inaccurate. You're stating a thesis here, you're noit validating it with empirical evidence. We're not in your house, you're in ours. If you intend to offer a coherent argument as to why Christianity is false, law it out on the line, otherwise, don't expect to be able to stand on unfounded ascertions. The day I come to your house, you better believe I won't show up in a house built on the sand.

Also, your fierce defending of your ideals in the face of fact brings up one thought: control.
This forum is all about control. Pro-Republican, pro-God, anti-everything but what the Bible says is ok. Ban all who dispute this. Such actions bring up thoughts of facism.

Fascism is a political catgorization with such elements as nationalism, militarism, authoritarianism, populism, collectivism, statism, dictatorship, economic planning, anti-liberalism, and anti-communism. The only real simelarities between Christianity and fascism is anti-liberalism and anti-communism considering both programs contain initiatives which appose the teachings and direction of the religion.

As far as the grab for control is concerned, Christianity is not looking for control, in our view, all control and authority already rests with Jesus Christ, all we are doing is attempting to bring the world to understand this.

I will say I am infuriated with your racism against the Japanese (referring to them as chinks, which is Chinese). Surely grown-ups don't need to make blatant racist remarks, especially ones as pure and devout as the moderators and pastors.

Can't say as I'm pleased with this myself, but the folks here have their own ways. I believe you need to ask yourself, however, why is it that you are offended by racial slurs? Besides the innacuracy of calling nips chinks, why is it this particular allotement of words is able to invoke such a distinct negative reaction in you. When you were a child and you saw such a word, did the sound of it harm you, did it hurt you? The simple fact of the matter is words only have the power we chose to imbue them with and that society has imbued apon you. Did you ever make a choice to be offended by slurs, or were you forced through aculturation to adopt the sensativities of others? Something to think about.

Cold hard truth is, religion is dying. Sure, it was needed for cultural development many centuries ago, but now it is a loose appendage that refuses to fall off.

Perhaps if this were some origin cult, I could see how it would no longer be neccesary to exist. If our purpose was to explain away those things "magical" or "of the Gods" that science has so thoroughly figured out, we would naturally no longer be needed. The Bible is noit the script to Myth Busteres, it is a living guide to the mortal heart and soul. Science has never fully understood or replicated such concepts, they're personal and ephemeral. Christianity takes those things and gives them focus and direction in a way the secular simply cannot. Until the day when science stamps out the last spark of human spirit, idividuality, and beauty, God will always have a throne in the human heart.

By the way, I am aethiest. I don't belive in a higher power. I make my own destiny. I am in control. And I am Damn proud of it.

How can you place your faith in the tragically flawed, powerless, ignorant, and short-sited you? Allow me to illistrate how you have no control. You are going to die, you cannot stop this. Unless you chose to kill yourself right now, you will not be able to guarentee that you will have a choice on the time, the manner, or the situation in which you will die. You are a small innefectual speck of human trash floating on the breeze of outrageous fortune with no way to prevent the consequences of your imperfect life from having their way with you. You're deluding yourself if you believe you have any real power or control. Christians have been taught to know better, thus we less floating on the breeze of outrageous fortune so much as being carried by a being with all knowledge and mercy. You'd be surprised how different that can feel.

[Bob4God]

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The LORD YOUR GOD created you as a free moral agent. If you want to shame Him and spit in His face, that's up to you and your master satan. But beware that when He returns on judgement day, you will be brutally punished according to your heart.