[MitzaLizalor]

It said:

..criticisms of Hinduism and Brahminical philosophy by Sramana scholars occurred primarily during the 6th century BCE to around 8th century CE in ancient India. This period witnessed a flourishing of diverse philosophical schools, including Yoga, Buddhism, Jainism, Ajivikas, and other Sramana traditions that engaged in debates with orthodox Vedic practices.

The Sramanas rejected the rigid social hierarchy enforced by the Brahmins, which placed individuals into fixed social classes from birth.

As we saw in a previous post, when interlopers arrived in India, displacing the indigenes, they brought some language or other with them. Over several centuries [or millennia -ed.] that transmogrified into Sanskrit, necessitating a cunning plan.
•1• How to keep local babbling out of the new language?
•2• How to stop interbreeding?
From a position of strength, due to slightly faster transport—and it doesn't need to be much faster—so that interlopers could always catch indigenes and, conversely, escape if they were chased, the plan whilst cunning was also simple.

Maintaining themselves at the pinnacle, divers strata were contrived to embody degrees of uncleanness. Thus was prevented pollution of what by now was Sanskrit (or near enough) due to marrying some low wretch (or if you did, nobody would talk to you so it didn't matter) while also one's ethnic purity could be preserved. To some extent it worked but trade would help to refine the languages, partly from new ideas requiring new words but also new objects – manufactured items from Iran or China perhaps and indeed as referenced above, other than for ivory-tower merchants, the cultural hegemony of "orthodox Vedic practices" had itself to evolve. Perhaps you think of this as a mutation?

I feel you're quite close to Christ and hope this is helpful for you.

[Johny Joe Hold]

It said:As we saw in a previous post, when interlopers arrived in India, displacing the indigenes, they brought some language or other with them. Over several centuries that transmogrified into Sanskrit, necessitating a cunning plan.
How to keep local babbling out of the new language?
How to stop interbreeding?
From a position of strength, due to slightly faster transport—and it doesn't need to be much faster—so that interlopers could always catch indigenes and, conversely, escape if they were chased, the plan whilst cunning was also simple.

I feel you're quite close to Christ and hope this is helpful for you.

Thank you Sister Mitza. I hope our friend, Hindu doo-doo, now understands Hinduism came to be big through force. That's just the opposite of Christianity. Christians from Europe came to the U.S. and preached the gospel. The tribes fell on their knees, tossed their feathers and started dressing appropriately. Same in South America where the Spanish priests rescued the natives from their sin. Now a majority in several of those countries are Protestants, thank you Jesus.

India has 30 million Christians. It is on the cusp of a giant Christian revival. Our Pastor Zeke is making plans for block buster sermons with alter calls across India. When the Airbus 320 is delivered, he will pack it to the ceiling with frozen steaks. Once Indian people get a taste of outdoor grilled prime rib that will be the end of sacred cows.

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[GanduHindu]

.....he will pack it to the ceiling with frozen steaks. Once Indian people get a taste of outdoor grilled prime rib that will be the end of sacred cows.

O Mayor, my friend, what have you done? These vile utterances of yours have traumatized me more deeply than all the beatings and abuse I received in my childhood at a Hindu Gurukool (an institution equivalent to 11 years of American private prep-school before transferring to college).

To think of a cow as an edible meat animal is beyond blasphemous to my holy Hindu ears. It cuts me so deeply. Of course, you wouldn't understand. Had you asked me to forgo my life, I would have done it sooner than hearing such a vile pronouncement.

Don't you get it? We Hindus view beef-eating by Westerners with the same horror and revulsion as you do the cannibals of Papua New Guinea or someplace else. O Krishna! We're clearly living in the Age of immortal sins - the Kali Yuga. All humanity has disappeared. People have become just like the animals.

How could you consider eating a poor milch cow that sustained you as a toddler with her nectar-like milk? I presume for Americans, that should be even more of a concern as more American women care more about their earthly figure. Breastfeeding their own children has been out of fashion for so many decades. It's the poor cow that sustained you and your children, and will sustain your children's children.

And when those children grow up a bit, they will partake of the same meat of the poor cow. What was its crime? That it stopped being productive. And then it goes to an American abattoir to be stripped of every ounce of its flesh. This is extremely barbaric and evil beyond words. Did you forget all the ice-creams and milk shakes you had as a child, and possibly as an adult.

If you wish to partake of good red meat, there's so much variety God has provided you. Pigs, deer, buffaloes, sheep, turkeys, chickens, quails, and for you Americans, bison. I heard a bison steak is supposed to be lip-smacking. Eat all these lower inferior animals to your belly's content. Why do the poor cows have to undergo so much trauma at your American slaughterhouses? The insatiable appetite for beef of McDonald's and Burger King consumers is beyond evil. We Indians saw it fit to prohibit these two American corporations from selling any beef in our land.

Doesn't the Christian Bible envisage a beautiful Heaven where the wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat hay like guess what, a cow (Isaiah 65:25). Even Chick-fil-A wants you to eat more chicken, and spare the poor cows.

I think I need some counselling at the nearest Hindu temple as I'm traumatized beyond words.

[Johny Joe Hold]

To think of a cow as an edible meat animal is beyond blasphemous to my holy Hindu ears. It cuts me so deeply. Of course, you wouldn't understand. Had you asked me to forgo my life, I would have done it sooner than hearing such a vile pronouncement.

Don't you get it? We Hindus view beef-eating by Westerners with the same horror and revulsion as you do the cannibals of Papua New Guinea or someplace else. O Krishna! We're clearly living in the Age of immortal sins - the Kali Yuga. All humanity has disappeared. People have become just like the animals.

I think I need some counselling at the nearest Hindu temple as I'm traumatized beyond words.

HinduasIsay, I can help you. Get yourself a Bible, then read it. You will see in Genesis 1:28-31, man is to rule over all animals. It's not the other way around. It is clear in the Bible cows are just a kind of oxen; get yourself a stick and work them to death. Cattle have manipulated humans and humans need to take control. Remember (no you will not remember because you are not Biblically trained) that when Moses came down the mountain after conferring with God his people were worshipping a golden object. It was not a pig or a goat. It was a calf. Moses was livid and all of us learned not to worship cows from that.

That said, neither you nor we Christians should be careless about what we consume. Figs, for example, are out. Jesus smote a fig tree because it did not provide him what he wanted when he wanted it. This Christmas don't give figs as a gift. (Mark 11:12-25)

[MitzaLizalor]

DECORATIVE GOURDS

Jonah 4:5 6 7 Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city. And the LORD God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd. But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered.

There are a lot of decorative gourds out there. Some are vaguely attractive, maybe painted with an interesting pattern, some of them are even carved. Happily, because He loves us and doesn't want to have us tortured, it's easy to know which ones are forbidden as decor in the Christian home.

ACCEPTABLE DECOR	FORBIDDEN
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There are two categories of gourd. Plain and dried or with a vibrant design seem OK, although I wouldn't want to remind God of Jonah's recalcitrance personally. The second category is a sly attempt to get forbidden items accepted as innocent ornaments around the house, any likeness of any thing in Heaven or earth (including the waters, so glass dolphins are out) being explicitly prohibited.

Deuteronomy 5:8

Category 1
A. A plain striped gourd
B. A plain striped gourd (different shape)
C. Attractive gourd with carved panel and turquoise cabochon
D. Darker hued plain gourd
E. Small undecorated gourd, quite attractive
F. Vibrant painted gourd

I have no idea what 1F is supposed to be but no such thing exists in reality so designs of this type should be OK. When in doubt, do not purchase. The next category is more problematic.

Category 2 ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN BY GOD
A. Hideous decorated gourd with spider, probably made in a rehab. workshop: yuk
B. Nicely stained with carved leaves (leaves are things of earth and thus forbidden)
C. Intricate pierced work, fine in itself BUT contains dragonflies
D. Although not decorated, this glass gourd is itself an idol (see dolphins, above)
E. Psychedelic gourd with tree: absolutely forbidden!
F. Giraffe - words fail me

Satan will try anything to throw up a wall between God and His love for us. Sneaky attempts like this are perhaps more subtle than trendy buddha statues but anyone who's read The Ten Commandments (pretty basic I'd have thought) knows that leaves, psychedelic trees, glass gourds or dolphins, stylistically dubious spiders and so on are very cleary and absolutely FORBIDDEN.

God loves us enough to warn us: the least we can do is pay attention.

Thank you Jesus