[RuthClarke]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

Yeah well, you think that's bad. I had the harrowing experience of seeing a bunch of Christians wandering about my local town protesting against the abortion laws. I hear you can catch all sorts off of those guys: idiocy,sexism,racism,bigotry and ignorance. I had to go home and have my girlfriend scrub my naked body with the soap of sanity.

[JRFinn]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

You think THAT'S bad? there's this group of people who, get this, worship a dying naked jew hung upon an implement of torture. If that's not sick and perverted, I don't know what is.

[Nobar King]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

You think THAT'S bad? there's this group of people who, get this, worship a dying naked jew hung upon an implement of torture. If that's not sick and perverted, I don't know what is.

BLASPHEMY!

[Marshall]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

False Christians like that make me want to puke. Pretending to love Christ and unborn babies is abhorrent. I asked one of them pretend Christians and they told me they don't even care what sort of baby it is! Obviously some babies are worth more than others so right there I knew they were full of beans instead of Jesus.

If you are insinuating you are gay...then I will pray extra hard for God to deliver you unto the Abyss. I don't want you anywhere near my mansion once He calls me home. Gays have no way to instill Godliness in a baby and it would be far more humane to suck it out piece by piece with an upright Kirby than it would be to raise it up thinking queerism is okay with Jesus.

[RuthClarke]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

I really don't see what your problem is to be honest. I mean the less abortion you have, the more unwanted babies you have, gleaning support from the care systems that are supported by the state and therefore by you. Unwanted and unloved children grow up in an already overpopulated society that has not the time or the money to care for them properly and therefore they often grow up plagued by guilt and misdirected anger at themselves and often become equally unuseful to society in later life. Statistically speaking they are more likely to have a poor education, poor health physically, mentally and emotionally and are also much more likely to end up in prison where thay will once again be supported by the tax payer. This is of course not their fault, as it is merely circumstansial and frankly speaking, the blame for their circumstances cannot lie with them but with the people who decided to bring them into the world knowing full well that they were in no position to offer them adequate levels of care, be it financially, emotionally or in any other way.
The people that stand in the way of women having abortions by attatching a stigma or encouraging the laws to be changed, are not only denying women the right to their own body, but also adding to a problem that is greatly ignored by the ignorant public and somewhere down the line, innocent children are paying the price. A women's body is her own, to do with as she wishes, and not the body of god, after all; will god hold her hand as she has the child against her will and alone, will god provide for the child emotionally?, financially?, physically? Will god steer a child who has known only struggle from a life of drugs and crime? I don't think so. For where is god when prostitutes are murdered on the streets and when children are battered to death in their own homes by parents that didn't want to bear them in the first place? It is, as far as I can see only with correct stiumulation, love, care, support, and education that a child can successfully grow into an adult able to make decent life choices and by preventing or attempting to prevent abortion from happening you inadvertently encourage incapable parents of becoming parents to children who will not be equipped to deal with the many evils that the whole godless world will try to throw at it.
You need to get down off your 'godly' pedestal and realsie that as nice as it sounds for all pregnancies to result in a happy and healthy child, life, i'm afraid just isn't that lovely for some and the issue of having children just can never be that black and white.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

I really don't see what your problem is to be honest. I mean the less abortion you have, the more unwanted babies you have, gleaning support from the care systems that are supported by the state and therefore by you.

What do you mean, "unwanted babies"? God wants them here. If God didn't want those children here, then why would He go through the trouble of putting brand new souls in their little bodies?

Children are a blessing, not a punishment.

A women's body is her own, to do with as she wishes

Wrong. A woman's body belongs to her husband. Eph 5:23, I Cor 7:4.

after all; will god hold her hand as she has the child against her will and alone, will god provide for the child emotionally?, financially?, physically?

Absolutely, if she's saved and has faith.

Luke 12:27-29 Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Wide-Open]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

That's a horrible story Marshall. I hope you are feeling allright now.

I think you should sue the homer for the emotional distress he caused you. That should teach him.

[Marshall]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

I really don't see what your problem is to be honest.
Because you are a Liberal atheist and have no moral compass to direct you.

I mean the less abortion you have, the more unwanted babies you have, gleaning support from the care systems that are supported by the state and therefore by you.
Thanks to our Liberal communist Muslim President.

Protracted Liberal mumbo jumbo about society is to blame for whoredom and drugs and stupid minorities: Unwanted and unloved children grow up in an already overpopulated society that has not the time or the money to care for them properly and therefore they often grow up plagued by guilt and misdirected anger at themselves and often become equally unuseful to society in later life. Statistically speaking they are more likely to have a poor education, poor health physically, mentally and emotionally and are also much more likely to end up in prison where thay will once again be supported by the tax payer. This is of course not their fault, as it is merely circumstansial and frankly speaking, the blame for their circumstances cannot lie with them but with the people who decided to bring them into the world knowing full well that they were in no position to offer them adequate levels of care, be it financially, emotionally or in any other way.
The people that stand in the way of women having abortions by attatching a stigma or encouraging the laws to be changed, are not only denying women the right to their own body, but also adding to a problem that is greatly ignored by the ignorant public and somewhere down the line, innocent children are paying the price.
If girls had Jesus in them instead of all the neighborhood boys then they wouldn't be pregnant or VD soaked harlots shooting up for sex. How dare we believe that family values and self reliance is better that sex parties and teenaged whores breaking Christs heart by slaughtering the babies they selfishly made. These girls need the love and support that onion headed Liberals just don't know how to give.

Here's where the blasphemy begins: A women's body is her own, to do with as she wishes, and not the body of god, after all; will god hold her hand as she has the child against her will and alone, will god provide for the child emotionally?, financially?, physically? Will god steer a child who has known only struggle from a life of drugs and crime? I don't think so. For where is god when prostitutes are murdered on the streets and when children are battered to death in their own homes by parents that didn't want to bear them in the first place? Jesus wept.

Jesus supplies all the following so I have no idea what this Ruth person is talking about: It is, as far as I can see only with correct stiumulation, love, care, support, and education that a child can successfully grow into an adult able to make decent life choices
But until they grow up they should be allowed to fornicate with no consequences? Are you serious?

More blasphemy and random hatred for Jesus and Christian values: and by preventing or attempting to prevent abortion from happening you inadvertently encourage incapable parents of becoming parents to children who will not be equipped to deal with the many evils that the whole godless world will try to throw at it. Shame on us for attempting to SAVE INFANT LIVES. We must be monsters.

Uppityness and a touch of racism at the end: You need to get down off your 'godly' pedestal and realsie that as nice as it sounds for all pregnancies to result in a happy and healthy child, life, i'm afraid just isn't that lovely for some and the issue of having children just can never be that black and white.

God really should be capitalized by the way. He is God after all.

You aren't the same "Ruth" that's on TV talking about sex are you?

[RuthClarke]

Re: I saw a gay at the tractor supply!

To Pastor Billy-Reuben
Oh right of course god wants them here if you care to believe that but the fact of the matter is that their mothers don't and what's more important ? Actual real living breathing human beings or a man in the sky who you've never seen and never heard and has a book written about the things he doesn't want you to do. It's shocking that you'd take the word of an imaginary man without question whilst disregarding the wishes of your fellow human beings. You need to wake up, children aren't always a blessing for those on minimum wage or with inadequete housing, they're an unwanted burden.
For you to say that a woman's body actually belongs to her husband is not only shocking but terrifying. I'm glad that you're not in a position of power is all I can say and I'm glad that where I live, the majority of people would find that statement hilarious if it wasn't so ingnorant and sad.
You're living in a fantasy world. You're telling me that a god who no one has ever seen or heard or spoken to and has provided mankind with no proof of his existance despite the fact that he could do if he or she so chose, is going to do all these great things for these unwanted and unloved children. That's obscene and if you've an ounce of intellect then you'll realise the ridiculousness of this.
You can recite lines from the fairy tale to me until your fingers go blue but i'm going to go on the facts and the tangible evidence here and I can only hope you do the same.

[James Hutchins]

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Ruth, you are an incredibly stupid and misguided woman. No wonder no men will have you.

[eliot mayfield]

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To Pastor Billy-Reuben
Actual real living breathing human beings or a man in the sky who you've never seen and never heard and has a book written about the things he doesn't want you to do. It's shocking that you'd take the word of an imaginary man without question whilst disregarding the wishes of your fellow human beings.

We are talking about GOD here, not Santa Claus! God talks to us through the Bible!

[InGodWeTrust]

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To Pastor Billy-Reuben
Oh right of course god wants them here if you care to believe that but the fact of the matter is that their mothers don't and what's more important ? Actual real living breathing human beings or a man in the sky who you've never seen and never heard and has a book written about the things he doesn't want you to do. It's shocking that you'd take the word of an imaginary man without question whilst disregarding the wishes of your fellow human beings. You need to wake up, children aren't always a blessing for those on minimum wage or with inadequete housing, they're an unwanted burden.
For you to say that a woman's body actually belongs to her husband is not only shocking but terrifying. I'm glad that you're not in a position of power is all I can say and I'm glad that where I live, the majority of people would find that statement hilarious if it wasn't so ingnorant and sad.
You're living in a fantasy world. You're telling me that a god who no one has ever seen or heard or spoken to and has provided mankind with no proof of his existance despite the fact that he could do if he or she so chose, is going to do all these great things for these unwanted and unloved children. That's obscene and if you've an ounce of intellect then you'll realise the ridiculousness of this.
You can recite lines from the fairy tale to me until your fingers go blue but i'm going to go on the facts and the tangible evidence here and I can only hope you do the same.

We've had enough of this faggotry!

[Bobby-Joe]

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You're living in a fantasy world. You're telling me that a god who no one has ever seen or heard or spoken to and has provided mankind with no proof of his existance despite the fact that he could do if he or she so chose, is going to do all these great things for these unwanted and unloved children. That's obscene and if you've an ounce of intellect then you'll realise the ridiculousness of this.

Don't give me that "no proof" nonsense. The proof for God's existence is written on your very heart! You just refuse to admit it because you hate God because you hate anything good and decent.

[RuthClarke]

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And now to poor Marshall
Well some one's getting defensive aren't they? Firstly, I do not feel the need to justify my beliefs to you and assuming that I am a 'liberal atheist' when I have never indicated my stance on such topics serves only to illustrate your ignorance closed-mindedness.
Secondly, I wonder what you would like our 'Liberal Communist Muslim president' to do precisely. Would you rather he provided no service to offer the children who are unwanted by society and by their parents in equal measure. As some one who so desperately wants each and every unwanted pregnancy to result in a baby which is clearly going to be a burden to some one, you seem to be awfully offended at the fact that the state has to pump in more and more money to support these children.
You can label it as liberal 'mumbo jumbo' all you like but that doesn't change the fact that what I have written is correct and logical. Unfortunately you seem to be too busy shrouding your vision with 'Bible mumbo jumbo' to realise that.
If girls had Jesus in them blah blah blah... If you had logic in you instead of this bind faith that has got humanity absolutely nowhere then you might come to understand that your prejudices regarding pregnancy stop you from being able to approach the matter in a way that is sensible. If you cared to open up a psychology textbook you'd come to see that sexual exploration is a perfectly natural part of personal development in young adults. And what about the thirteen year old girl who has been repeatedly abused by her father and has ended up pregnant ? Family values are all very well but some families simply aren't 'blessed' with them I'm afraid.
As for your 'onion headed liberals' remark, I wonder what kind of 'love and support' you would give. Call her a few names, guilt-trip her out of it, throw a few old books at her and add a wholesome beating just for good measure. Call me what you will, but I have read posts made on this website for a while and have rarely seen messages of love, only of hatred and can't help but think that if people like you were to have any power, the world would be an even more hostile place to live than it already is.
And please spare me the whole "OH NO, SHE'S BLASPHEMING!!!" routine. There's not much more blasphemous than using your misconstrued "word of god" to justify your own loathsome prejudices against pretty much everyone who doesn't share your exact beliefs. It's very easy for you not to actually have to argue any of my points but rather just bundle them up together, say that they're blasphemous, and sweep them under the carpet. Jesus wept indeed.
Oh you know you're right about god supplying everything a child needs. Come to think of it I sure do recall the man himself jogging my memory when I was learning my ABCs, and he was definitely the one who kissed it better when i scraped my knee and actually, I definitely remeber Jesus, beard and all, washing the sheets when I wet the bed at night. Come on. Seriously. I have no idea what this Marshall person is talking about.
Are YOU serious more to the point? If you actually genuinely believe that becoming pregnant accidentally and having to make the decision to abort something growing inside of you is not a consequence then you're even more detatched than I first thought. Are YOU seriously suggesting that we continually force women to have children that they are not ready to have as some sort of punishment, and for what? For the fact that they were raped? That they were young and reckless? That they were old and stupid? That birth control is never 100% effective? It's a terrible shame that so many unwanted pregnancies happen but the answer to the problem isn't to actually make the women have the child, the answer is to bring girls up with a decent sense of self worth and a good education of how to deal with certain situations correctly. What's your suggestion, tell them they're evil if they do it and threaten them with a baby that will ruin their lives meanwhile allowing backstreet abortionists with no medical knowledge to kill women with botched jobs. I don't think so. Women who have abortions have to live with the consequences of their actions every day of their lives, at least these consequences aren't there screaming with a soiled nappy at three o'clock in the morning whilst the unfit mother wonders where her life has gone.
You're trying to save 'infant' lives, despite the fact that babies in the womb are at first nothing more than a clump of cells attatched to a woman. They cannot even breathe without her and she has the right to do as she likes with her own body. Is terminating a pregnancy with the intention of doing the right thing for mother or baby when the child is not yet a child, any worse than killing a cow, a walking, breathing, eating, excreting, sleeping cow that is perfectly capable of surviving alone in the outside world and is doing no harm to anyone, for an unnecessay meal on the table? Clearly you think so. i don't share in your opinion I'm afrai. the bottom line is this. In trying to 'save infant lives', you may well be damaging the lives of their mothers beyong repair. You are entitled to you opinion, what gives it a monstrous quality is that you judge and condemn others who do not share it which makes you sound awfully ignorant, not the most attractive quality.
I don't think you can accuse me of uppityness as i think anyone reading your post will arrive at the conclusion that your post goes a bit beyond uppityness and is generally rather rude and aggressive.
Finally to have the tenacity to accuse my usage of a common household phrase as being racist is irritatingly childlish and moronic.

[RuthClarke]

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James you know nothing about my situation and you've no idea as to whether I am in a relationship or not. There seems to be a lot of childish name calling on this website and not much actual debate. It's a bit of a disappointment to be honest.

Eliot we've as much proof that god exists as we do that Santa Clause does. Books don't speak to you, you read their words, you only hear them in your head as you read them off the page. That's not god speaking, it's you I'm afraid.

Bobby-Joe, the proof of your idiocy is written on the very screen. Wake up.