[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Well, selective quoting aside, what makes you convinced that you are superior?

Oh friend, *I* am not superior in any way! I was once a vile sinner, just like you. The only reason I am not now, is because when I was Born Again (1 Peter 1:23), I was made into a New Creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). It is not I the world sees, but Christ who lives in me (Galatians 2:20). And Christ is, indeed, vastly superior. Why, He's Perfect (Matthew 5:48)!

Words in a book? I'll ask the question everyone's expecting. Where is there proof of god? What makes Christians better than Non-Christians. Most importantly, why should we care?

Oh dear, you will care! If not now, then come Judgement Day when your name will be called, and if you are not found in the Book of Life (Revelation 13:8), you will be justly punished for all eternity! Then you will care! You will care, but it will be too late!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Well, selective quoting aside, what makes you convinced that you are superior? Words in a book? I'll ask the question everyone's expecting. Where is there proof of god? What makes Christians better than Non-Christians. Most importantly, why should we care?

Two words: Eternal damnation.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

This is a pathetic and discriminate thread, condemning those with no belief with poor or evidence, accusing a whole group people of being evil and "satanic".

Hello there my angry and accusory friend. I am not exactly sure what it is that you are trying to convey in this post.

You post does contain a hint of accusation against us, friend.

1 Peter
5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Friend, we do not make accusations, we stand on what the Lord has to say about it in His Word, which is Himself, and we do not add to or take away from Him.

John
1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[griffin.emerson]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

"Friend, we do not make accusations"

uh, huh (sarcasm intended). And do you think that Atheists are being as cruel to you as you are to them?

I am a Christian and I thought God and Jesus were for forgiveness and love. Not calling other religions dumb. When someone tries to do the right they should not be punished and no, Atheists are not constant lairs, they are just like you and me. Don't be cruel, Angry Christians who believe Atheists a lower class of human.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

"Friend, we do not make accusations"

uh, huh (sarcasm intended). And do you think that Atheists are being as cruel to you as you are to them?

I am a Christian and I thought God and Jesus were for forgiveness and love. Not calling other religions dumb. When someone tries to do the right they should not be punished and no, Atheists are not constant lairs, they are just like you and me. Don't be cruel, Angry Christians who believe Atheists a lower class of human.

Jesus IS God!

Where did you get the idea God was all about forgiveness and love? They are parts of His character but what about queers?

God wants them dead.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

You say you are a Christian

What other parts of the Bible do you ignore? The resurrection? Lazarus?

YIC

[griffin.emerson]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

"Jesus IS God"

Wow, Father and son are a lot closer than I thought

"God wants them dead."

That's a pretty harsh punishment for having beliefs.

And by the way, I've only read the Children's bible. Never had time for the big one.

But why do you think that Atheists don't have compassion. They can be very good people just like Christians, who aren't always the best people either.

No one's perfect people.

(And I'm 90% positive that I will be bashed by everyone on this survey for not reading the bible, I've just come to express my views on if Atheists were actually people or not)

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

"Jesus IS God"

Wow, Father and son are a lot closer than I thought

"God wants them dead."

That's a pretty harsh punishment for having beliefs.

And by the way, I've only read the Children's bible. Never had time for the big one.

But why do you think that Atheists don't have compassion. They can be very good people just like Christians, who aren't always the best people either.

No one's perfect people.

(And I'm 90% positive that I will be bashed by everyone on this survey for not reading the bible, I've just come to express my views on if Atheists were actually people or not)

How can you possibly make an informed decision about being a Christian if you don't know what Christianity is all about?

That's a pretty harsh punishment for having beliefs.

Yet Jesus (who is God) wants them dead. Didn't you even know that?

YIC

[griffin.emerson]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

But it still doesn't seem very MORAL.
or right.
And yes, I don't know hardly a thing about Christianity besides going to a summer camp. I am considering to believe in every religion equally...

Yes, I know, no god shall come before me!

But still, I just don't know why you are bashing on Atheists so much! It was starting to get kind of inhumane back there...

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

I don't know hardly a thing about Christianity besides going to a summer camp. I am considering to believe in every religion equally...

Take note of what Jesus thinks of non Christians.

2nd Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."
Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
John 15:6 "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."
John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
Psalm 7:12 "If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready."

There is NO escape for non believers: they are to be killed and to HELL they will go. Unbelievers are just as evil as murderers, just like the Bible tells us.

YIC

[griffin.emerson]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Oh, I do take note.

I believe, just not only in that. Why isn't Atheism true, why not Judaism, Why not Norse or Greek gods?

They could all be right, so I'm going to believe in all of them, for the sake of it.
And no, I will not try to lie, decieve, corrupt, steal, or murder because of it.

And you know what, I think I'll be a Jedi too.
why not.

(If God didn't like star wars, why did he give George Lucas the idea?)

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Oh, I do take note.

I believe, just not only in that. Why isn't Atheism true, why not Judaism, Why not Norse or Greek gods?

They could all be right, so I'm going to believe in all of them, for the sake of it.
And no, I will not try to lie, decieve, corrupt, steal, or murder because of it.

And you know what, I think I'll be a Jedi too.
why not.

(If God didn't like star wars, why did he give George Lucas the idea?)

So when you said you were a Christian you were lying.

Typical

YIC

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Oh, I do take note.

I believe, just not only in that. Why isn't Atheism true, why not Judaism, Why not Norse or Greek gods?

They could all be right, so I'm going to believe in all of them, for the sake of it.
And no, I will not try to lie, decieve, corrupt, steal, or murder because of it.

And you know what, I think I'll be a Jedi too.
why not.

(If God didn't like star wars, why did he give George Lucas the idea?)

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[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Atheists are not constant lairs, they are just like you and me. Don't be cruel, Angry Christians who believe Atheists a lower class of human.

Atheists ARE constant liars. Consider the purchase of a quince.

The atheist: "Jesus did not exist I will buy a quince"
Shopkeeper: "here is a lovely quince"
The atheist: "how much are they children should never pray in school"
Shopkeeper: "99¢"
The atheist: "I'll have one God is dead"
Shopkeeper: "that will be 99¢"
The atheist: "original sin is a myth here's $1 Adam and Eve never lived keep the change"

Notice how every thought of the atheistic bowel is a subset of the greater lie? Whether vocalised or not? Walking down the street, since the atheist denies God, is just one small aspect of that overarching denial. Each breath perpetuates that lie. Every glob of exudate upon the atheist hide is that lie. Every hair. Every toenail.

The atheist IS the lie we read in The Bible:

PSALM 19
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
KJV

..but atheists do not fear the LORD. How then may they be clean? The atheist life denies the judgments of the LORD, necessarily regarding them as nonexistent. True and Righteous aren't even on the bus. A massive lie. Wretched and foul the atheist has no choice but to disregard statutes of the LORD because in that stony heart there is no LORD. Even before a single thought forms, such as the idea of making some stewed quince for lunch, the atheist is lying; rejoicing is therefore absolutely impossible.

Similarly The Law of the LORD. "No such thing" ululates the atheist tongue. So how can there ever be perfection? There can not. And there is none as a moment attempting to witness to so broken a fool makes plain. Neither can there ever be wisdom in the absence of God's testimony: such a soul can never be converted. Why not? Because the lie which is every atheist breath denies the veracity of The Holy Ghost. Declares God a liar. Defames Christ.

MATTHEW 3
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
KJV

According to the atheist everything in that passage from Matthew is false. To start off such Godless maniacs will invariably say there is no firmament which is in itself blasphemous because right there on page one The Bible is particularly clear on exactly that point, not only explaining that it is there but why it was created and describing what it does. Perpetuating this lie, and demanding that it be taught in schools to impressionable and trusting young minds, these charlatans continue to announce that no heavens therefore could open, no Spirit of God could descend, and no Voice from Heaven could speak. Because there is no Heaven. Because there is no firmament.

Christians reject such monumental folly. Christians are going to Heaven to praise Jesus for eternity.
Atheists embrace it. Atheists are going to HELL FOREVER

Does that make them a lower class of human? God seems to think so:

MARK 3
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
KJV

Sounds like two categories of human to me. Why do atheists choose the viler, filthy class? There are two stages. God explains:

STAGE 1

PSALM 53
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
3 Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
KJV

This establishes all atheists as
..Fools
..Corrupt
..Abominably iniquitous
..Gone back
..Altogether filthy

Next, having rooted themselves in folly, corruption, abominable iniquity and recidivist filth, these morons get stuck into the blasphemy as follows:

STAGE 2

II PETER 1
16 ..We have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17-18 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19-20 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
KJV

To the class Z mind (the atheist mind) this is encountered as:
..verse 16 - "God is himself a cunningly devised fable and anyone suggesting otherwise should be prosecuted, convicted and imprisoned"
..where they will have an 80% chance of contracting hepatitis C and be in the highest risk category for HIV infection and AIDS
..verses 17-18 - "both verses absolute fabrications" (this is the point where absolute impossibility of redemption is slammed home)
..verses 19-20 - "no such thing as prophecy, no such thing as certainty, nothing to heed because there's no light to shine and everything
..is dark; stars do not arise in hearts; I will interpret scripture in any way I like even though there's no such thing as scripture and God
..did not write it"
..verse 21 - God, however, is quite clear here. Scripture is His creation, inspired by The Holy Ghost and anyone who suggests otherwise
..is calling His Spirit a liar. Absolutely irredeemable heathens and it's downhill all the way from there

Atheists a lower class of human.

I noticed you haven't read The Bible and attribute the facts stated in God's Inerrant Word to Christians as opinions. They are not opinions. Now that you have read the relevant Scripture I hope you are able to see what God thinks about atheists.

They are the lowest stratum of humanity.

[Alterboy]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Atheists ARE constant liars. Consider the purchase of a quince.

The atheist: "Jesus did not exist I will buy a quince"
Shopkeeper: "here is a lovely quince"
The atheist: "how much are they children should never pray in school"
Shopkeeper: "99¢"
The atheist: "I'll have one God is dead"
Shopkeeper: "that will be 99¢"
The atheist: "original sin is a myth here's $1 Adam and Eve never lived keep the change"

Notice how every thought of the atheistic bowel is a subset of the greater lie? Whether vocalised or not? Walking down the street, since the atheist denies God, is just one small aspect of that overarching denial. Each breath perpetuates that lie. Every glob of exudate upon the atheist hide is that lie. Every hair. Every toenail.

The atheist IS the lie we read in The Bible:

PSALM 19
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
KJV

..but atheists do not fear the LORD. How then may they be clean? The atheist life denies the judgments of the LORD, necessarily regarding them as nonexistent. True and Righteous aren't even on the bus. A massive lie. Wretched and foul the atheist has no choice but to disregard statutes of the LORD because in that stony heart there is no LORD. Even before a single thought forms, such as the idea of making some stewed quince for lunch, the atheist is lying; rejoicing is therefore absolutely impossible.

Similarly The Law of the LORD. "No such thing" ululates the atheist tongue. So how can there ever be perfection? There can not. And there is none as a moment attempting to witness to so broken a fool makes plain. Neither can there ever be wisdom in the absence of God's testimony: such a soul can never be converted. Why not? Because the lie which is every atheist breath denies the veracity of The Holy Ghost. Declares God a liar. Defames Christ.

MATTHEW 3
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
KJV

According to the atheist everything in that passage from Matthew is false. To start off such Godless maniacs will invariably say there is no firmament which is in itself blasphemous because right there on page one The Bible is particularly clear on exactly that point, not only explaining that it is there but why it was created and describing what it does. Perpetuating this lie, and demanding that it be taught in schools to impressionable and trusting young minds, these charlatans continue to announce that no heavens therefore could open, no Spirit of God could descend, and no Voice from Heaven could speak. Because there is no Heaven. Because there is no firmament.

Christians reject such monumental folly. Christians are going to Heaven to praise Jesus for eternity.
Atheists embrace it. Atheists are going to HELL FOREVER

Does that make them a lower class of human? God seems to think so:

MARK 3
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
KJV

Sounds like two categories of human to me. Why do atheists choose the viler, filthy class? There are two stages. God explains:

STAGE 1

PSALM 53
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
3 Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
KJV

This establishes all atheists as
..Fools
..Corrupt
..Abominably iniquitous
..Gone back
..Altogether filthy

Next, having rooted themselves in folly, corruption, abominable iniquity and recidivist filth, these morons get stuck into the blasphemy as follows:

STAGE 2

II PETER 1
16 ..We have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17-18 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19-20 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
KJV

To the class Z mind (the atheist mind) this is encountered as:
..verse 16 - "God is himself a cunningly devised fable and anyone suggesting otherwise should be prosecuted, convicted and imprisoned"
..where they will have an 80% chance of contracting hepatitis C and be in the highest risk category for HIV infection and AIDS
..verses 17-18 - "both verses absolute fabrications" (this is the point where absolute impossibility of redemption is slammed home)
..verses 19-20 - "no such thing as prophecy, no such thing as certainty, nothing to heed because there's no light to shine and everything
..is dark; stars do not arise in hearts; I will interpret scripture in any way I like even though there's no such thing as scripture and God
..did not write it"
..verse 21 - God, however, is quite clear here. Scripture is His creation, inspired by The Holy Ghost and anyone who suggests otherwise
..is calling His Spirit a liar. Absolutely irredeemable heathens and it's downhill all the way from there

I noticed you haven't read The Bible and attribute the facts stated in God's Inerrant Word to Christians as opinions. They are not opinions. Now that you have read the relevant Scripture I hope you are able to see what God thinks about atheists.

They are the lowest stratum of humanity.

That example was brilliant! All the atheists I know of are actually incredibly obsessed with the beliefs of others! This fanaticism in continually thinking about undermining and disproving the Bible is a clear indication that they subconsciously know God is real.

[Hunter Metzger]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

"-Some theologians say atheist is on the decline, therefore it is. However, this is no reason to lose caution of the atheist threat!"

SHIT! They're still on to us.

It isn't safe to launched our global atheist invasion yet

I'll call the top secret atheist headquarters and tell the generals to hold off on the assault