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  • Caboose
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    • Feb 2010
    • 56

    #16
    Re: Research

    no not at all, its a purly subjective point of view, i see it as opressed, however many women on here see it as standard. This will be well presented.

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    • Mrs. Rogers
      compassion personified
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 2692

      #17
      Re: Research

      Originally posted by Caboose View Post
      i would like to know if you have any... changes... would you like things to be different. But i know that none would openly admit it.
      Oh no, I have no qualms at all admitting what I wish could be different.

      I wish that more so-called Christians would read the Bible in it's entirety, so that they may understand the true nature of God.

      I wish that atheists and other such non-believers would stop comparing the true nature of God to that of a human psychopath, as it is very difficult to convince them that every act of God in the Bible -- no matter how seemingly cruel -- is holy, simply because He did it.

      I wish that the LORD deemed women equal to men, as I find it very hard on my old feet to stand at the back of the church on Sundays, due to all the men -- both young and old -- getting all the good seats! The church I attend in New Zealand is a very small building, you see.

      However, wishing is useless, son. As long as the Word of God exists, these things will remain the same.
      True Christians are Perfect!

      Signs that you belong to a FALSE Christian Church.

      Persecution You Have Endured for CHRIST: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger in Christ.

      For True Christians™ only: please send me Project Habakkuk updates at gertruderogers@landoverbaptist.net. Thank you.

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      • Caboose
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        • Feb 2010
        • 56

        #18
        Re: Research

        thank you Mrs. Rogers.

        Quite enlightening. Do you feel this is how it is for most women? Wish things could be different, but it is how "God wills it"?

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        • Mrs. Rogers
          compassion personified
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 2692

          #19
          Re: Research

          Originally posted by Caboose View Post
          Do you feel this is how it is for most women? Wish things could be different, but it is how "God wills it"?
          I cannot speak for the other ladies on that matter. However, I hope I've been of some help to you.
          True Christians are Perfect!

          Signs that you belong to a FALSE Christian Church.

          Persecution You Have Endured for CHRIST: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger in Christ.

          For True Christians™ only: please send me Project Habakkuk updates at gertruderogers@landoverbaptist.net. Thank you.

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          • GOD=life
            WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
            True Christian™
            • Jan 2010
            • 3263

            #20
            Re: Research

            Originally posted by Caboose View Post
            no not at all, its a purly subjective point of view
            Sorry, but I assumed that papers were supposed to be objective. Whenever I read an article, I'm interested in the subject matter, not the personal opinion of the writer. This might be some feedback to take into account: the observer should not interfere with that which is being observed. Otherwise you should say that you are writing a paper about how you confront True Christians.

            Personally, I find it somewhat difficult to speak openly and without reservation to someone who seems to think I'm crazy and abusive.
            Originally posted by Caboose View Post
            i see it as opressed, however many women on here see it as standard.
            If the women here don't feel oppressed, then what's the problem? True Christian women get exactly the treatment that God Himself teaches. If you cannot trust God, whom can you trust? True Christian men and woman know what and where their reward will be. Heaven.

            But look at it this way: what if someone accuses you of oppressing your wife because you don't let her have sex with other men? Won't you say "I'm NOT oppressing her, she doesn't WANT to have sex with other men"? And won't your wife say "I don't feel limited at all, I love my husband?" True Christian women love God. The rest follows from there.

            Maybe there are some Christian sects where women are being oppressed, but they don't follow the KJV 1611 Bible and won't go to Heaven.

            Finally, I would like to leave you with this thought: if someone tells you that it's inconvenient to her that you're alive, would you find it oppressive if the law allows for her to have you murdered?
            I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

            Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
            Matthew 7:22
            Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
            Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

            Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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            • Caboose
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              • Feb 2010
              • 56

              #21
              Re: Research

              Its subjective as i am asking particular questions and noting the responses.

              I have no issues with you mate. you seem a very down to earth kind of guy. I understand about speaking openly, but because i have no faith myself, do you not see me as, a bit crazy?

              And no i dont have a problem with it, im not on some futile crusade to releive allwomen from opression. They are more than capable of doing it for them selves, if they so wish.

              I am happy in life, wife, child, house and omission of faith.

              you and others on this forum are happy in life with wife/husband, children, house and your Almighty God.

              Happiness is what makes you happy, i am not here to tell you "your happiness is wrong" as i would not expect any member of this forum to tell me that my happiness is false.

              Caboose

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              • James Hutchins
                True Christian™
                Just a Regular Nice Guy
                 
                • Jun 2009
                • 29457

                #22
                Re: Research

                Originally posted by Caboose View Post
                Its subjective as i am asking particular questions and noting the responses.
                ...and making your disagreement known, not very good research.

                I have no issues with you mate. you seem a very down to earth kind of guy. I understand about speaking openly, but because i have no faith myself, do you not see me as, a bit crazy?
                Crazy? No, but we see you as mis-guided and ill-informed. People like you ineveitably become death bed repenters. God is used to this ploy and your efforts will fail. You must repent now and live your life according to True Christian(tm) values.

                And no i dont have a problem with it, im not on some futile crusade to releive allwomen from opression. They are more than capable of doing it for them selves, if they so wish.
                At least you are not a total idiot.

                I am happy in life, wife, child, house and omission of faith.
                For now. I have no doubt you'll be crawling back on bloodied knees, begging for forgiveness.

                you and others on this forum are happy in life with wife/husband, children, house and your Almighty God.
                Of course we are, we are right with God!

                Happiness is what makes you happy, i am not here to tell you "your happiness is wrong" as i would not expect any member of this forum to tell me that my happiness is false.

                Caboose
                No, happiness is what makes God happy. If not for Him, we would not be. Since you do nothing to make God happy, therefore you cannot truly be happy, you just think you are. The point will come, you'll be sitting in a filthy darkened room, wondering what happened to make youee life Hell on earth. Remember the warnings and pleadings of this day.

                'Feel Good' Heathens like you make me sick!
                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                • Caboose
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 56

                  #23
                  Re: Research

                  Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post

                  For now. I have no doubt you'll be crawling back on bloodied knees, begging for forgiveness.
                  No, happiness is what makes God happy. If not for Him, we would not be. Since you do nothing to make God happy, therefore you cannot truly be happy, you just think you are. The point will come, you'll be sitting in a filthy darkened room, wondering what happened to make youee life Hell on earth. Remember the warnings and pleadings of this day.

                  'Feel Good' Heathens like you make me sick!
                  James, I have no faith, i have never stepped into a church. I Never will. I do not believe in heaven or hell. After life. Or gods of any beliefs.

                  I have never read the bible other than an educational/research source.

                  Please do not make any judgments about me, i am guided by morals and common sense, not god/faith.

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                  • James Hutchins
                    True Christian™
                    Just a Regular Nice Guy
                     
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 29457

                    #24
                    Re: Research

                    You absolute rejection of God will absolutely send you to Hell. You know what hell is like? One day soon, you will die.
                    You're dead. Whether due to your own disgusting sinning or the Lords divine will, you are dead. Instantly your soul begin falling towards the black abyss above Hell. The falling seems eternal as you gather speed and the heat begins to grow. Then you notice a red dot below you growing larger by the second, this is the Lake in the center of Hell. It is the brightest point in Hell therefore it is visible for a great distance. Keep in mind that the farther you fall, the further from Christ you are.
                    As you gain speed and the flames become apparent you may wonder how you can stop this from happening. The answer is simple. It's too late and you can't, you're doomed. Your soul is damned and it WILL happen. The temperature is now approaching the unbearable limit as your flesh begins to smoulder and ignite and you continue to build speed as you plummet toward the now visible boiling Lake of Fire. You can almost make out individual souls thrashing in the magma with your flaming eyesockets. Soon you will join them, your terror mounts as your screams become gargled with the stench of Hells evil smell. The heat becomes excruciating as you notice your skin peeling away and your bones becoming visible and black. Flaming and screaming in anguish, you splashdown into the acidic brimstone of Satans Lake at around 250 MPH. You are instantly vaporized and reformed as a tormented soul writhing in absolute terror in the deafening depths of the Lake that Burns Eternal. The pain is beyond comprehension as you gnash your teeth so hard they shatter in your mouth. Satan periodically plucks you from the flames to savagely rape repeatedly and casually tosses you to his infernal minions to rip apart and rape at will, only to be reformed and have this scenario repeated...over and over and over, forever.
                    Is it still funny mocking our mission to Save your soul? We want you to enjoy Heaven and eternal praise and worship at the feet of our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ.
                    Unless you are Saved™ by Jesus Christ and His Holy website and favorite church, Landover Baptist, there is no other way to avoid this.
                    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                    • Caboose
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 56

                      #25
                      Re: Research

                      Well if all what you say is true then you may mock me when i am dead...

                      However, Terminal Velocity for a person, naked, is 200mph feet/head first.

                      in bellyflop Terminal Velocity is about 90mph.

                      So, not every thing you just stated is 100% accurate, i shall have to stay with my own beliefs.

                      I guess only time will tell.

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                      • Pastor Ezekiel
                        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                         
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 78556

                        #26
                        Re: Research

                        Originally posted by Caboose View Post
                        Well if all what you say is true then you may mock me when i am dead...

                        However, Terminal Velocity for a person, naked, is 200mph feet/head first.

                        in bellyflop Terminal Velocity is about 90mph.

                        So, not every thing you just stated is 100% accurate, i shall have to stay with my own beliefs.

                        I guess only time will tell.
                        What exactly do you want here? You're injecting yourself into your alleged research an awful lot.

                        I'd like the name and phone number of your professor, please.
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                        • Caboose
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 56

                          #27
                          Re: Research

                          Of corse, Robin Heartly, 01702 308 298

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                          • Pastor Ezekiel
                            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                             
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 78556

                            #28
                            Re: Research

                            Originally posted by Caboose View Post
                            Of corse, Robin Heartly, 01702 308 298
                            What university is he at?
                            Who Will Jesus Damn?

                            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                            • GOD=life
                              WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
                              True Christian™
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 3263

                              #29
                              Re: Research

                              Originally posted by Caboose View Post
                              but because i have no faith myself, do you not see me as, a bit crazy?
                              Not entirely: I would compare it to a blind man not knowing what a rainbow is. The blind man isn't crazy or irrational at all: from his perspective, he honestly cannot see. The blind man who has never seen colors will logically and rationally come to the conclusion that the rainbow doesn't exist.

                              You, as an atheist may in fact lead an honest, productive, caring and loving life. It's not impossible at all. The problem, however, is that the Bible is clear that you will go to Hell, regardless of how good a person you are. Even though the Bible is crystal clear on this topic, it remains confusing to many Christians that good people will go to Hell: how can nice people who don't hurt anyone go to Hell??

                              In fact (see my signature), the Bible also indicates that Christians who do not have a solid foundation for their faith will go to Hell, even though they've spread (what they saw as) the Word of God their entire lives.

                              You may find some of our positions outrageous and in conflict with your conscience, but what you really should be researching (in my opinion) is whether those positions are consistent with the Bible or not. And with that, I mean the entire Bible, not an isolated chapter.

                              Originally posted by Caboose View Post
                              Happiness is what makes you happy, i am not here to tell you "your happiness is wrong" as i would not expect any member of this forum to tell me that my happiness is false.
                              Well, you came to this forum and True Christianity is the dominating point of view here. So if you say you don't believe in God, you will receive some surprised responses. Also keep in mind that we deal with a lot of weird people: often, people come here asking for help and then it turns out they just come to mock us... or they pretend to be Christian and then a few messages later they're saying God doesn't exist.
                              I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                              Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                              Matthew 7:22
                              Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                              Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                              Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                              • Caboose
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                                • Feb 2010
                                • 56

                                #30
                                Re: Research

                                Essex University... its in england... im english...

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