[rockNworship]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

Under water, covered in Nutella, while reading Proust?

Not creating different ways to worship, although that may not nessarly be a bad thing, but instead if you find yourself under water, covered in Nutella, while reading Proust then give me one good reason why not to worship God then? in fact the bible tells us that we should be worshiping God then.

"And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him." - Colossians 3:17

[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

Dear Friend,



Under water, covered in Nutella, while reading Proust?

Yours in Him,
bab

Yup. I'd still worship Him.

Why wouldn't I?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

We can't understand the bible fully, we dont even scratch the surface of the knowledge of the Lord, but the Bible is still given to us as an opportunity to hear from God and try and understand how he wants us to live for him, no one could ever give a definite answer to exactly what anything in the bible means, that includes wether it is literial or not, so all we can do is try and think logicaly as to what fits as a metaphor and what fits as to a way of living, again - pretty sure that God still wants us worshiping him in all ways possible

So if someone told you Jesus' virgin birth was metaphorical, you would agree that it could be? What about the resurrection? Could that be metaphor too?

[rockNworship]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

So if someone told you Jesus' virgin birth was metaphorical, you would agree that it could be? What about the resurrection? Could that be metaphor too?

No, I would not, but that is because a lot of the bible points to that event with the same perspective, where as something like worshiping with Davids instruments is not shown with the same view other events in the bible, if we were told later that God didn't want us to worship with our own materials or that we should stop after a certain point then it would be showing that what was said may not have been metaphorical, where as the bible actually says the opposite, that we should worship with all we have and at all times. This shows that obviously there is no literal sense behind saying it

[Didymus Much]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

We can't understand the bible fully...

But you HAVE to.

James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Get one thing wrong, and no salvation for you.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

No, I would not, but that is because a lot of the bible points to that event with the same perspective, where as something like worshiping with Davids instruments is not shown with the same view other events in the bible, if we were told later that God didn't want us to worship with our own materials or that we should stop after a certain point then it would be showing that what was said may not have been metaphorical, where as the bible actually says the opposite, that we should worship with all we have and at all times. This shows that obviously there is no literal sense behind saying it

Then let's try something more esoteric. You quoted.

1 Chronicles 23:5 "Four thousand are to be gate keepers, and 4 thousand are to praise the Lord with the instruments i have provided for that purpose"

2 Chronicles 7:6 "...with the Lord's musical instruments, which King David had made for praising the Lord"

Those we should take literally from the Chronicles. What about 2 Chronicles 15:1?

That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

Should we take that literally?

[rockNworship]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Should we take that literally?

well depends on the context, basicly who ever does not seek the Lord will be put to death, it all depends on how you are defining death here

also

But you HAVE to.

James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Get one thing wrong, and no salvation for you.

Yes, thats correct, once we sin we are no longer pure in Gods eyes, and rightfully so - but isn't that a pretty center point of our religion? that through Jesus we can be forgiven. If salvation was only possible for those who were perfect then you tell me who would be getting that salvation? who here is perfect? We are to learn the way that God wants us to live because yes thats what we are told to do but also because it is going to be the best way of life. But if someone doesn't know every law in the bible and stay within them throughout their whole life does that mean they can't be forgiven?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

well depends on the context, basicly who ever does not seek the Lord will be put to death, it all depends on how you are defining death here

I know of only one way they defined death in that era. He wasn't speaking spiritually.

[rockNworship]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

I know of only one way they defined death in that era. He wasn't speaking spiritually.

By using the example you are using you are showing that we can tell what is literal and what isn't totally. We have common sence and we can usually tell the main meaning of things like this, Also there was still heaven back then, it just wasn't as simple as accept Jesus and have your sins forgive like it is now, but there was still death as being not receiving salvation. God is the judge as to who dies and who doesn't not us

[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

I know of only one way they defined death in that era. He wasn't speaking spiritually.

Could very well mean death, as in an eternity without God.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

You have some reading to do.

Yes, thats correct, once we sin we are no longer pure in Gods eyes, and rightfully so - but isn't that a pretty center point of our religion? that through Jesus we can be forgiven.

Prior to Salvation. After we are blood bought and paid for, we are forever saved and sealed.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

2nd Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

2nd Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
(Even if we should lose faith, we are still a part of Jesus and Jesus believes in himself - therefore we can't really lose faith.)

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

1st Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

If salvation was only possible for those who were perfect then you tell me who would be getting that salvation?

The predestined preordained saints who were known of from the beginning.

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Matthew 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

Romans 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; )

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

2nd Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

2nd Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2nd Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2nd Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

who here is perfect?

I guess it depends on how you define perfect.

[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

I guess it depends on how you define perfect

You genuinely think you're perfect?

[rockNworship]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

The predestined preordained saints who were known of from the beginning.

Well I am not a preordained saint and I am not perfect, are you saying no salvation for me, even though I have been forgiven through Jesus?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

Why do these rock punks think that God wants His Children to be subjected to music that leads to fornication and bastard offspring? Everyone knows at the fork of life, rock and metal music is simply another step along the path to Hell, holding Satan's hand, doing a dosey-doe.

[StaticKilljoyMCR]

Re: Top 10 reasons why God hates rock music.

Ha ha! this has got to be one of the most funniest forums I think I've probably ever read! So, according to Christianity, if I listen to Rock music (which is MY salvation!) I'm going to Hell. Honestly, I'd LOVE to meet the person who thought this crap up. ROCK IS ONLY MUSIC!! There is no secretive drum beat that could possess peoples souls or whatever, or lyrics that could raise the Devil. ITS JUST MUSIC! And awesome music at that!! And all this stuff with women knowing 'their place', GET WITH THE 21ST CENTURY! It's actually quite a nice place!