[James Peter]

Re: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS ATHEISTS!!!

What would the authors have to gain by making a forgery? What would the alleged human authors, as you believe (in lieu of God, which we believe to be true), possibly have to gain by writing a book such as the Bible as complete fiction? What could they possibly achieve by writing such an outrageous tome that includes talking burning bushes, people turning into pillars of salt, dead bodies being reanimated and a man turning water into wine? Either all of those things happened, and the Bible has divine authorship, or they didn't and the Bible was written by a bunch of ancient tent-dwelling middle eastern goat-herders that would let their goats pee on their faces to fulfill some sick sexual fantasy. Now you have to consider what is more likely: a man walking across a very deep body of water or someone making up a story about a man walking across a deep body of water (for no reason). I, and all of the Christians in the world, believe that the former is the more feasible option.

Likewise you must consider all works of the written word in this equation. What purpose would J.K. Rowling have in making up the world of Harry Potter? What is in it for her to make up the magical world of Hogwarts with all of its interesting characters and page-turning adventure that has captivated readers both young and old? There is nothing in it for her to make up a story like that. Obviously the only explanation is that Hogwarts and Harry Potter are real, which is why the United States Government must find Harry Potter and the other witches and wizards of Hogwarts so they can conduct tests on them and utilize their powers in military weapon defense before the radicalized Islamists get to it (to be fair, the halftime stoning of harlots would be a refreshing addition to the game of Quidditch, though). Word on the street is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is very close to enriching a level one love spell. Once he cracks the magic wand matrix... well I don't have to tell you what's going to happen. Let's just say that the new He Who Shall Not Be Named will have that moniker because it will literally be too hard to pronounce his name.


"Dark Lord Aaban Abdul Allyi Sa'ood Bashir Hujjaya... forget it, we'll call him 'He Who Shall Not Be Named.'"

Many people have laughed at me for getting my "panties in a bunch" over books like Twilight and Harry Potter because, as they say: "they are just works of fiction." But the problem with that is I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS STUFF IS REAL! I honestly believe there is a high school in Oregon somewhere that has a lonely girl that is currently in the throes of a tumultuous relationship with a mysterious vampire and a teenage werewolf... and it scares the crap out of me!

As a Christian I must believe every word that is written in every book ever penned, or the Bible means nothing. Otherwise I've just wasted my entire life searching every corner of the globe for Waldo.

No god put his son jesus into marry so that he would not be born wiht sin

[Lisa H]

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Im not acting at all and say what you want but i could care less because God and Jesus are the only ones i need to judge me not another human being

So whats your problem. The poster wanted proof that God had shown himself, so I gave it to him. Are you questioning the Bible.

[JUAN GARCIA, repulsive dago queer]

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My question is how can you not be christian. People who are athiest, I believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin. Also people say why doesnt god just show himself and my answer to that is Faith. What use what ithihc obama is so yes i can see obama being the anti-christ. But i wouldnt freak out astupid because of thier beliefs.

> My question is how can you not be christian.



For the same reason I'm not Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, or any of
the other thousands of religions out there.
> People who are athiest, I
> believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht
> something they know is a sin.


So, when you break a commandment like that, how do you think your God feels?
> Also people say why doesnt god just show
> himself and my answer to that is Faith.


So, in order to believe, we have to believe? Doesn't that
sounds....like a circular catch-22 to you?
> What use what it be if god
> just showed himself to everyone and then everyone just switched to
> christian,


Why not? Jesus did it to St. Thomas.
> God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people
> who see him and then suddenly believe.


The Bible says otherwise.
> Also Athiest who dont belive in
> god explain to me about ghosts then?


Which ones? Blinky, Pinky, Inky, or Sue/Clyde? Do I have to eat the
power pellets to do away with them? If so, must I go 'wakka wakka'
whenever I go somewhere? I get looked at strange by the people on the
street when I do that.
> Dont say thier not real either
> because my dad and stepmother have both seen demons, and if you want
> to know about it i would be more than happy to explain.


People see lots of things and then make up things in their mind to
explain what they can't. People actually believe they're seeing faces
in toast.
I saw a demon while I was over a friend's house. I turned on the light.
The demon was a coat on a coat rack.

> Also people who belive Obama is the Anti-Christ, I can see this to
> some point because in the bible it says that the Anti-Christ will try
> to make peace wiht everyone and be a nice handsome smooth talker whihc
> obama is so yes i can see obama being the anti-christ.


So, all smooth handsome talkers that make peach with everyone are
anti-Christs? Man. The world must be FULL of anti-Christs.
> But i wouldnt
> freak out about it because if your saved then you will go to heaven.


Saved from what?
> just like 2012


2012 what?
> why freak out when you will be going to a better place


I'd rather make this planet a better place, if you don't mind.
> thats why i think the people who freak out about it are the ones who
> are worried because they no about the sins they have committed.


So, they're scared of the abusive spouse?
> Also all of these different religons like catholics, prodestants and
> judism and all the others i think are in my opinion are not needed
> because all you have to do is belive in god and the virgin marry and
> that jesus gave his sins for us, also god didnt make religon, humans
> made religon in thier own way that they seen fit. For example reilgon
> is formed like a club and then one day a member form that club doesnt
> like the ideas of it so then they go and make thier own club meaning
> religon. But really all you have to do is belive in virgin marry,
> jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will
> go to heaven.


So, your religion should be the only religion?
> Im not a perfect christian, no one is infact ive had my doubts but
> after talking wiht my Step Mom and my Dad and thinking about the
> miracles that have happened to me i do belive there is a god and thats
> called faith. So please anyone is welcome to comment but do not argue
> or make stupid comments or make fun of anyones religon.


Even though, y'know, you just did that yourself.
> This is meant
> to be a discussion not a argument about which religon is better or
> calling someone stupid because of thier beliefs.


So, you want others to do things that you can't do?

[James Peter]

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God has showed himself

Exodus 3
4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

So theres your proof Mr Fool

Im not acting at all and say what you want but i could care less because God and Jesus are the only ones i need to judge me not another human being

[James Peter]

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Great question! You are the smartest god beliver on this site, i'll tell you that!

I don't belive in god because i think it makes no sense. How can you belive something just because a book says so?
Right...the things in the book happens or whatever you told me and i think you won't take coinsidence for an answer
Oh...and please tell me what kind of things the bible says has happened!

If the bible is true, then it is nothing like these landover people think it is!
God as iv'e heard is kind and gentle and want peace with all living things.
but these people say that it is okay to beat your children, cut off hands, kill doctors who do abortions, kill your neighbours cats and probably killing the non beliver would be ok too i don't know.

You! You have a fairly good reason to belive in god in my opinion because your parents or what it was had seen demons which i highly doubt but then also the ''miracle'' that saved you from somethin that killed teens
So i can understand why you belive in god

I would actually start beliving in god if he SHOWED himself so it would be official that he exists!

Big bang to me makes more sense and then evolution happened and the fish grew legs n stuff

also i can't understand why the landover people think you're and idiot! You are the only one that one can argue with without having ridicoulus stuff in the argue

My parents are 36 and 37

[James Peter]

Re: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS ATHEISTS!!!

Call of Cthulhu is the predecessor of Japanese tentacle porn. But why must Hindus flog cows?

God put jesus in mary himself because jesus couldnt be born with sin like everyone else

[Cranky Old Man]

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How can you belive something just because a book says so? ... Big bang to me makes more sense

I find it very interesting that you object against the Holy Bible, which contains eye witness reports of people who actually met Jesus, yet at the same time accept the big bang theory which even among scientists is highly controversial.

E.g. the big bang does contradict, not explain, the accelerating expansion of the universe, there is the horizon problem, the flatness problem that can be derived from Friedmann–Lemaître–Robertson–Walker metrics, the Baryon asymmetry, etc. etc. But I am sure as a believer in the big bang theory you have studied all those contradictions and have explanations for them? Or could it be that you simply have no idea what you are talking about? Just look up the things I mentioned here on the Internet and actually investigate something for the first time in your life.

[Lisa H]

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How can you belive something just because a book says so?

Well using this logic you have just denied you own atheist scientist books.

[Wash O'Hanley]

Re: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS ATHEISTS!!!

How can you belive something just because a book says so?

What would the authors have to gain by making a forgery? What would the alleged human authors, as you believe (in lieu of God, which we believe to be true), possibly have to gain by writing a book such as the Bible as complete fiction? What could they possibly achieve by writing such an outrageous tome that includes talking burning bushes, people turning into pillars of salt, dead bodies being reanimated and a man turning water into wine? Either all of those things happened, and the Bible has divine authorship, or they didn't and the Bible was written by a bunch of ancient tent-dwelling middle eastern goat-herders that would let their goats pee on their faces to fulfill some sick sexual fantasy. Now you have to consider what is more likely: a man walking across a very deep body of water or someone making up a story about a man walking across a deep body of water (for no reason). I, and all of the Christians in the world, believe that the former is the more feasible option.

Likewise you must consider all works of the written word in this equation. What purpose would J.K. Rowling have in making up the world of Harry Potter? What is in it for her to make up the magical world of Hogwarts with all of its interesting characters and page-turning adventure that has captivated readers both young and old? There is nothing in it for her to make up a story like that. Obviously the only explanation is that Hogwarts and Harry Potter are real, which is why the United States Government must find Harry Potter and the other witches and wizards of Hogwarts so they can conduct tests on them and utilize their powers in military weapon defense before the radicalized Islamists get to it (to be fair, the halftime stoning of harlots would be a refreshing addition to the game of Quidditch, though). Word on the street is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is very close to enriching a level one love spell. Once he cracks the magic wand matrix... well I don't have to tell you what's going to happen. Let's just say that the new He Who Shall Not Be Named will have that moniker because it will literally be too hard to pronounce his name.


"Dark Lord Aaban Abdul Allyi Sa'ood Bashir Hujjaya... forget it, we'll call him 'He Who Shall Not Be Named.'"

Many people have laughed at me for getting my "panties in a bunch" over books like Twilight and Harry Potter because, as they say: "they are just works of fiction." But the problem with that is I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS STUFF IS REAL! I honestly believe there is a high school in Oregon somewhere that has a lonely girl that is currently in the throes of a tumultuous relationship with a mysterious vampire and a teenage werewolf... and it scares the crap out of me!

As a Christian I must believe every word that is written in every book ever penned, or the Bible means nothing. Otherwise I've just wasted my entire life searching every corner of the globe for Waldo.

[Lisa H]

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Great question! You are the smartest god beliver on this site, i'll tell you that!

I don't belive in god because i think it makes no sense. How can you belive something just because a book says so?
Right...the things in the book happens or whatever you told me and i think you won't take coinsidence for an answer
Oh...and please tell me what kind of things the bible says has happened!

If the bible is true, then it is nothing like these landover people think it is!
God as iv'e heard is kind and gentle and want peace with all living things.
but these people say that it is okay to beat your children, cut off hands, kill doctors who do abortions, kill your neighbours cats and probably killing the non beliver would be ok too i don't know.

You! You have a fairly good reason to belive in god in my opinion because your parents or what it was had seen demons which i highly doubt but then also the ''miracle'' that saved you from somethin that killed teens
So i can understand why you belive in god

I would actually start beliving in god if he SHOWED himself so it would be official that he exists!

Big bang to me makes more sense and then evolution happened and the fish grew legs n stuff

also i can't understand why the landover people think you're and idiot! You are the only one that one can argue with without having ridicoulus stuff in the argue

God has showed himself

Exodus 3
4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

So theres your proof Mr Fool

[Mr fool]

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The question is, why do atheists choose not to believe in God?

Great question! You are the smartest god beliver on this site, i'll tell you that!

I don't belive in god because i think it makes no sense. How can you belive something just because a book says so?
Right...the things in the book happens or whatever you told me and i think you won't take coinsidence for an answer
Oh...and please tell me what kind of things the bible says has happened!

If the bible is true, then it is nothing like these landover people think it is!
God as iv'e heard is kind and gentle and want peace with all living things.
but these people say that it is okay to beat your children, cut off hands, kill doctors who do abortions, kill your neighbours cats and probably killing the non beliver would be ok too i don't know.

You! You have a fairly good reason to belive in god in my opinion because your parents or what it was had seen demons which i highly doubt but then also the ''miracle'' that saved you from somethin that killed teens
So i can understand why you belive in god

I would actually start beliving in god if he SHOWED himself so it would be official that he exists!

Big bang to me makes more sense and then evolution happened and the fish grew legs n stuff

also i can't understand why the landover people think you're and idiot! You are the only one that one can argue with without having ridicoulus stuff in the argue

[Cranky Old Man]

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I evaluated all of the information available and then combined with a feeling that only science exists; I decided that there was no God.

That is not very scientific of you. Science is not about feeling, it is about cold hard evidence. I am sure God is not amused by your "decision".

This is a tired old argument. Statistics show that having faith makes a person no more likely or unlikely to break the law or get a divorce. Faith does not therefore influence morals.

You have been lied to. Real statistics show almost all criminals are atheists as they have no morals.

[waywardJim]

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My question is how can you not be christian.

I evaluated all of the information available and then combined with a feeling that only science exists; I decided that there was no God. P.S. Please quit being lazy. i is I, god is God. wh yother is why other. Please fix you typos.

People who are athiest, I believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin.

This is a tired old argument. Statistics show that having faith makes a person no more likely or unlikely to break the law or get a divorce. Faith does not therefore influence morals.

Also people say why doesnt god just show himself and my answer to that is Faith. What use what it be if god just showed himself to everyone and then everyone just switched to christian, God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe.

This is ridiculous. God is not hiding himself to test your faith. God does not exist.

Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then? Dont say thier not real either because my dad and stepmother have both seen demons, and if you want to know about it i would be more than happy to explain.

If you logical proof is that your family saw a demon then I have all the information I need concerning your clarity of thought.

all you have to do is belive in virgin marry, jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will go to heaven.

This is not reality

Im not a perfect christian, no one is infact ive had my doubts but after talking wiht my Step Mom and my Dad and thinking about the miracles that have happened to me i do belive there is a god and thats called faith.

There is no such thing as miracles. If a man is diagnosed with cancer and is given 3 months to live but then lived 20 years it is natural. Our bodies fight off cancer all the time. Sometimes we win and sometimes cancer wins. This is expected so why do some people want to call it a miracle?

P.S. I think you would be happier here http://www.christianforums.com/ I chat with those people all the time and they are like you.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Call of Cthulhu is the predecessor of Japanese tentacle porn. But why must Hindus flog cows?

[James Peter]

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Magnetism is a category of behaviour of materials that respond at an atomic or subatomic level to an applied magnetic field. For example, the most well known form of magnetism is ferromagnetism such that some ferromagnetic materials produce their own persistent magnetic field. However, all materials are influenced to greater or lesser degree by the presence of a magnetic field. Some are attracted to a magnetic field (paramagnetism); others are repulsed by a magnetic field (diamagnetism); others have a much more complex relationship with an applied magnetic field. Substances that are negligibly affected by magnetic fields are known as non-magnetic substances. They include copper, aluminium, gases, and plastic.

my dad didnt take pictures of the demons he saw he didnt wlak around wiht a camera every where he went