[Meek and Humble]

Re: False Messages?

Except often times, they are not "clear and precise". Things meant differently back then. For instance, it was not allowed in those days for women to teach the men. However, that is no longer the case, so that point becomes void now.

Then you are going to hell, blasphemer.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psalm 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


1st Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever.
1st Peter 1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
1st Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Also, you're a woman, and I am a man? By your belief system, does that not mean that you should not be trying to correct me?

The Bible says women are not allowed to speak in church. It does not say that holy, upright women cannot correct heretical sinners. In fact, the Bible has many instances of female evangelists. Your sexism is NOT welcome here, sir! Read this post where it explains in more detail: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showp...78&postcount=8

In addition, is this not a attempt to corrupt our children? Telling them that what they're parents say is wrong, and that Children should correct their parents? This does not seem like "honoring your parents" to me.

If their parents are SINNERS, then yes. We are to obey God before our parents (and letting your parents go to hell is not that honorable either).

Luke 14:26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 10:35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: False Messages?

HeathenBasher, yes you can. As I said above, you need to believe that Jesus died for your sins and rose again. That above all else.

James 2: 20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: False Messages?

However, as this verse says, I am not going to conform to YOUR "pattern of the world."

Rom 12:2: Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind

Yes, because clearly we share the worldview of the majority of the world

[Aidan1]

Re: False Messages?

@ A Follow: Except salvation has nothing to do with the "law." That verse would apply to the written law of the government, not the Bible.

Also, I am a male, not a girl, as you would know had you actually read my entire post.

Also, some questions:

How can you have been saving souls since "1620." Nice to know you "true Americans" have been saving souls since before America Existed.

Also, you use the F word in one of your posts in the "Pastor's Messages" section. Considering that the Bible forbids profanity, does this not mean that you are disobeying the Bible, and thus God?

HeathenBasher:

The Revelation verses, Malachai and James Verses, are irrelevant.

And yes, the words of the LORD. God did not speak these words, but Peter, I believe, as he was correcting what was "right" at the time.

Also, you are attempting to extort money for the church's worldly gain, abusing God and the Bible to get more money. This is dispicable.

[Aidan1]

Re: False Messages?

No Heathen. You share the Worldview of your Church, and attempt to use physical force, as you have said in other thread, to attempt to FORCE people to accept your faith.

This is no better then the Muslims, who slaughter those that refuse to accept their religion. And while God will kill those that will not Accept Him, you are not God.

Heathen, Once more you misinterpret the meaning of the verse. What it is saying, as you would know had you studied it, that if all you do is sit in Church, and do not go out and preach the Truth, then your faith is "Dead." Do not attempt to abuse the verse for your monetary gain.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: False Messages?

@ A Follow: Except salvation has nothing to do with the "law." That verse would apply to the written law of the government, not the Bible.

Lying is a sin, boy. Here is the context of James 2:10

8If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.



11For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.



Now, are you still claiming that this is the "law of the government"?


As for salvation -


14What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?



17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.



18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.



19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.


26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

How can you have been saving souls since "1620." Nice to know you "true Americans" have been saving souls since before America Existed.

Are you under the impression America only became inhabited after 1776?

The Revelation verses, Malachai and James Verses, are irrelevant.

Have fun explaining to God on judgment day that you think His word is irrelevant.

And yes, the words of the LORD. God did not speak these words, but Peter, I believe, as he was correcting what was "right" at the time.

Enjoy hell, blasphemer:

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Also, you are attempting to extort money for the church's worldly gain, abusing God and the Bible to get more money. This is dispicable.

I find it despicable that you care more about storing up your money for yourself than you do about God

[Meek and Humble]

Re: False Messages?

No Heathen. You share the Worldview of your Church, and attempt to use physical force, as you have said in other thread, to attempt to FORCE people to accept your faith.

Really? When did I say that?

Heathen, Once more you misinterpret the meaning of the verse. What it is saying, as you would know had you studied it, that if all you do is sit in Church, and do not go out and preach the Truth, then your faith is "Dead." Do not attempt to abuse the verse for your monetary gain.

I said nothing of monetary gain. You were lying that faith is all you need. I'm glad that you have admitted your lies.

[Levi Jones]

Re: False Messages?

And yes, the words of the LORD. God did not speak these words, but Peter, I believe, as he was correcting what was "right" at the time.

At the time? You apply white out to the Bible when you happen to disagree with it? You are so going to hell, heretic.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Also, how dare you say I am taking the scriptures out of context involving works!

[Aidan1]

Re: False Messages?

I love how you jump to Conclusions. In fact, most of your ideas about people and places seem to be Conclusions. I do not "store up my money for myself." Please stop making incorrect assumptions, less you embarress your church more.

And no I was not lying Basher, please do not try and twist my words.

What I meant was that if you do not go out and preach, then your faith is not up and active. It is "dead" in a form. You will still go to Heaven, though perhaps not as honored as others.

And no, I never said you did it for monetary gain. But your church does. Trying to use children to get their parents to give you money?

And you did not say it, I never said you did, I was referring to your church in general. There was a thread somewhere about using Force of Convert people to Christianity.

Augh, cant find it. I'll keep looking for it though. One of the more memorable posts involved someone "shoving their bible into someones mouth and saying a prayer for them so that they knew that they loved them."

[Aidan1]

Re: False Messages?

Levi, what do you mean how "Dare" I say you are taking it out of context. I "Dare" because it is true. Study the bible, and stop your twisted interpretation of it, or it will be YOU, not ME, who is going to hell.]

Another Infraction? Will you ban me? Because you don't want to hear the truth? If you truly believe what I say is wrong, stop resorting to infractions, and try to PROVE me wrong.

[Levi Jones]

Re: False Messages?

I see you enjoy taking the Scripture out of context. These verses state that you will be blessed in heaven and store up heavenly riches by doing good works.

Really? Show don't tell.

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

And Levi, is that the only point you can attempt to refute? Have you no answer for any of the others?

I answered it. You are the false prophet.

[Levi Jones]

Re: False Messages?

PROVE me wrong.

I already have. Perhaps you missed that big wall of scripture you dismissed as meaning something else than what it says?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: False Messages?

I see Bobby. Basically what you are saying is...

That if you and your christain denomination do not mark someone a "True Christian TM" then obviously they must be wrong.

Apparently, you seem to think that people are only Christians if you and your fellows confirm them so.

However, as this verse says, I am not going to conform to YOUR "pattern of the world."

Rom 12:2: Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind

No!
NO!
NO!

Stop preaching to us and start listening to us.

I am saying you can tell who a TRUE Christian™(like us) is from a FALSE Christians (like you) because a TRUE Christian™ follows ALL of the Bible and a FALSE Christian finds excuses NOT to.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: False Messages?

What I meant was that if you do not go out and preach, then your faith is not up and active. It is "dead" in a form. You will still go to Heaven, though perhaps not as honored as others.

Oh really? Do you have Scripture to back that up?

James 2: 19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Augh, cant find it. I'll keep looking for it though. One of the more memorable posts involved someone "shoving their bible into someones mouth and saying a prayer for them so that they knew that they loved them."

How convenient. I was able to find this verse in the Bible.

Revelation 21: 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[Aidan1]

Re: False Messages?

xD

Well, thank you for your time all. This has been most fun, and you really are amazingly talented trolls. Best of luck to you and your trolling.