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[/Sarcasm]Ah of course how did I think I could trick you there obviously couldn't be any other explanation to the fact that I'm here trying to have a civil discussion.[/Sarcasm] Please tell your... flock? (I suppose that's the term) about me so long as you don't spread any lies in fact I would love to visit in person if you set up a meeting I would be happy to come.
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So if it is written down and accepted as fact it is correct?
Got you.
You might want to read that one back to yourself, son.
YIC
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Friend, 'theories' are guess.Originally posted by TraumaSandwhich View PostNo I believe that the universe is billions of years old because the people who made the theories wrote down how they came to those theories and what they concluded and shared it with others who also studied the universe and came to those same conclusions. In case it gives you any comfort I also believe Scientology is ridiculous. And of course the person who made the theory was proven to exist and my theory didn't perpetuate through word of mouth until someone had the idea to write it down.
Who are you going to believe, some ambiguous person making wild, drug addled guesses or the entity that actually did it and was there at the time. A no-brainier if you ask me!
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No I believe that the universe is billions of years old because the people who made the theories wrote down how they came to those theories and what they concluded and shared it with others who also studied the universe and came to those same conclusions. In case it gives you any comfort I also believe Scientology is ridiculous. And of course the person who made the theory was proven to exist and my theory didn't perpetuate through word of mouth until someone had the idea to write it down.Originally posted by A Follower View PostAnd why do you believe the world is 15 billion years old? Did you read it in a book? Or did a teacher tell you who heard it from a friend's mother's sister's father-in-law's distant nephew who overheard a scientologist saying something like that while drunk? In no way will that convince me of the accuracy of your beliefs, instead it proves your naïveté and your gullibility. God tells us first hand how the world was formed, an eyewitness account directly shared with us.
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Why does it matter how big the universe is? It's still 6500 years old (or there abouts).Originally posted by TraumaSandwhich View PostOne I'm not a log cabin republican and I would appreciate it if you would stop making assumptions of what I have to be and there is tons of proof of the "vast universe and trillions of stars" for one there is something called the Hubble telescope and it has taken pictures of the universe. I also recommend that you take some time to go and look at some of this evidence and do, if only the tiniest bit, some research on the concept that the universe is larger than our galaxy.
YIC
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Clearly, you are a leftist homosexual Jesuit pretending to be a Republican. You are a troll for the Devil, like many we have seen before.Originally posted by TraumaSandwhich View PostOne I'm not a log cabin republican and I would appreciate it if you would stop making assumptions of what I have to be and there is tons of proof of the "vast universe and trillions of stars" for one there is something called the Hubble telescope and it has taken pictures of the universe. I also recommend that you take some time to go and look at some of this evidence and do, if only the tiniest bit, some research on the concept that the universe is larger than our galaxy.
I must go now, as I am giving a sermon today and I am on in ten minutes. I will try to mention you in my sermon, as an example, and I will pray for you, though I doubt it will do any good.
God Bless!
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One I'm not a log cabin republican and I would appreciate it if you would stop making assumptions of what I have to be and there is tons of proof of the "vast universe and trillions of stars" for one there is something called the Hubble telescope and it has taken pictures of the universe. I also recommend that you take some time to go and look at some of this evidence and do, if only the tiniest bit, some research on the concept that the universe is larger than our galaxy.Originally posted by Alvin Moss View PostYou must be a Log Cabin Republican then.
I will not debate you, as this is not a debate site and our Pastors have forbidden it. However, just to let the air out of your smug stance, where is your proof of this vast universe and these trillions of stars?
You are a devotee of the modern cult of science and that alone will send you to Hell.
Repent your sins and come to Jesus. It's that or Hell.
Don't go there; it's too hot.
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And why do you believe the world is 15 billion years old? Did you read it in a book? Or did a teacher tell you who heard it from a friend's mother's sister's father-in-law's distant nephew who overheard a scientologist saying something like that while drunk? In no way will that convince me of the accuracy of your beliefs, instead it proves your naïveté and your gullibility. God tells us first hand how the world was formed, an eyewitness account directly shared with us.
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Cosmic Microwave Background radiation. When Jesus said "let there be light" this could very well be the remnants that you are looking for.Originally posted by TraumaSandwhich View PostAnd what is the CMB?
But it is not supported Biblically so we have to remain skeptical.
How can you say stars are more complicated than animals? What unit of measurement are you using to describe complexity?
YIC
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Originally posted by TraumaSandwhich View PostOne I'm a Republican and two if you speak to literally anyone who knows anything about the universe (religious people included) will say that the universe is not 6,000 years old but more in the area of billions of years old. And if my first point is full of falsehoods misconceptions and ridiculous assumptions then enlighten me as to what they are.
You must be a Log Cabin Republican then.
I will not debate you, as this is not a debate site and our Pastors have forbidden it. However, just to let the air out of your smug stance, where is your proof of this vast universe and these trillions of stars?
You are a devotee of the modern cult of science and that alone will send you to Hell.
Repent your sins and come to Jesus. It's that or Hell.
Don't go there; it's too hot.
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Well you'll notice that God spent another day on the animals a day I did not include in my days the animals and the earth is not more complicated than stars and at the very least other planets. And as far as light is concerned I mean not just little beams I'm talking about light that can make day and night and light up the entire planet. And what is the CMB?Originally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View Post1: Stars are very simple. Just a massive amount of hydrogen: one proton. The Earth is full of people, foxes, sea snakes and scorpions. The Earth is far more complicated.
2: The universe appears older. But science cannot prove things 100% as it is by definition tentative.
3: Jesus said "let there be light". He can create light. Heck, people can create light: it does not all come from stars. As to where did the light go? The obvious answer is that it is the CMB. But we cannot say that for sure because that is a departure from the Bible and that is never sound logic.
YIC
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One I'm a Republican and two if you speak to literally anyone who knows anything about the universe (religious people included) will say that the universe is not 6,000 years old but more in the area of billions of years old. And if my first point is full of falsehoods misconceptions and ridiculous assumptions then enlighten me as to what they are.Originally posted by Alvin Moss View PostYou make many assumptions and all are incorrect.
1-Full of misconceptions, falsehoods and ridiculous assumptions.
2-The Earth is slightly older than 6,000 years and so is everything else- more of your foolish jumping to conclusions.
3-Your points and questions about why God does what God pleases to do have no bearing on your arguement at all and amount to mindless jibberish.
Your foolish pontificating passes as intellectual intercourse among your unsaved Democrat friends, but saved Christians cannot be so easily fooled.
You will have your part in the Lake of Fire that burns eternally, unless you get right with Jesus, which I shall pray for, but will likely not occur.
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1: Stars are very simple. Just a massive amount of hydrogen: one proton. The Earth is full of people, foxes, sea snakes and scorpions. The Earth is far more complicated.Originally posted by TraumaSandwhich View PostNo I am not perfect but my point is you are saying the bible is proof because you believe what it says to be true. I don't believe that the historical Jesus(as in the person in the New Testament) was perfect either because I believe the bible to be false. But let's go ahead and for the sake of argument let's say I'm wrong and Jesus created the world the way it says in Genesis. Here are my questions
1. If it took 2 total days to build the earth then why did it take just one day to create the stars because the stars in the universe are vastly larger and measure in the trillions?
2. If you believe in the young earth theory(in other words that the earth is approx. 6,000 years old which it seems that you do but I may be wrong) then how do account for the universe being older, by billions of years, than that especially if God made the earth before the other planets and suns?
3. How was there light before the sun and the stars and if there was where did that light go? And if he had a form of light other than a star why make the stars at all?
2: The universe appears older. But science cannot prove things 100% as it is by definition tentative.
3: Jesus said "let there be light". He can create light. Heck, people can create light: it does not all come from stars. As to where did the light go? The obvious answer is that it is the CMB. But we cannot say that for sure because that is a departure from the Bible and that is never sound logic.
YIC
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You make many assumptions and all are incorrect.Originally posted by TraumaSandwhich View PostNo I am not perfect but my point is you are saying the bible is proof because you believe what it says to be true. I don't believe that the historical Jesus(as in the person in the New Testament) was perfect either because I believe the bible to be false. But let's go ahead and for the sake of argument let's say I'm wrong and Jesus created the world the way it says in Genesis. Here are my questions
1. If it took 2 total days to build the earth then why did it take just one day to create the stars because the stars in the universe are vastly larger and measure in the trillions?
2. If you believe in the young earth theory(in other words that the earth is approx. 6,000 years old which it seems that you do but I may be wrong) then how do account for the universe being older, by billions of years, than that especially if God made the earth before the other planets and suns?
3. How was there light before the sun and the stars and if there was where did that light go? And if he had a form of light other than a star why make the stars at all?
1-Full of misconceptions, falsehoods and ridiculous assumptions.
2-The Earth is slightly older than 6,000 years and so is everything else- more of your foolish jumping to conclusions.
3-Your points and questions about why God does what God pleases to do have no bearing on your arguement at all and amount to mindless jibberish.
Your foolish pontificating passes as intellectual intercourse among your unsaved Democrat friends, but saved Christians cannot be so easily fooled.
You will have your part in the Lake of Fire that burns eternally, unless you get right with Jesus, which I shall pray for, but will likely not occur.
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No I am not perfect but my point is you are saying the bible is proof because you believe what it says to be true. I don't believe that the historical Jesus(as in the person in the New Testament) was perfect either because I believe the bible to be false. But let's go ahead and for the sake of argument let's say I'm wrong and Jesus created the world the way it says in Genesis. Here are my questionsOriginally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View PostI would ask you this: are you perfect? Well Jesus is. Is it more logical to trust a perfect being or a human being (flawed, like all of us)?
I mean no disrespect but Jesus created the whole world in seven days 6500 years ago (or so) so that you and I could live out our lives in fulfilment of His vision.
Do you really have the right to gainsay your creator?
YIC
1. If it took 2 total days to build the earth then why did it take just one day to create the stars because the stars in the universe are vastly larger and measure in the trillions?
2. If you believe in the young earth theory(in other words that the earth is approx. 6,000 years old which it seems that you do but I may be wrong) then how do account for the universe being older, by billions of years, than that especially if God made the earth before the other planets and suns?
3. How was there light before the sun and the stars and if there was where did that light go? And if he had a form of light other than a star why make the stars at all?
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