Totalitarianism

[Brother Thomas]

Is anyone else here seeing that radical Christianity (especially in this case) advocates totalitarian society and total control over the lives of its people? Example: In the book 1984 (George Orwell), Big Brother:

Demonizes Sex
Constantly watches everyone all the time
Ostrasizes anyone that doesn't conform
Expresses total and complete intolerance for dissent

The list goes on. But do I really need to say more.

@Landover- Please revoke my status as Member. Thanks.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Is anyone else here seeing that radical Christianity (especially in this case) advocates totalitarian society and total control over the lives of its people? Example: In the book 1984 (George Orwell), Big Brother:

Demonizes Sex
Constantly watches everyone all the time
Ostrasizes anyone that doesn't conform
Expresses total and complete intolerance for dissent

The list goes on. But do I really need to say more.

@Landover- Please revoke my status as Member. Thanks.

Nonsense friend, we here to help you.

You are misrepresenting the Christian position friend; we do not want a nation were society has total control over the individual, that is the kind of horizontal thinking liberals do (remember Hitler and Stalin were atheists). What we Christians want is the kind of society Jesus wants; God having total control over the individual. There should be nothing standing in between a man and His Lord, certainly not society.

Now that is TRUE™ freedom friend.

[Brother Thomas]

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And Jesus wants a totalitarian society. God having total control over the individual? Let me guess, you act as the voice of God. Thus, you could make it seem that God says anything you want Him to say just to advance your motives. I'm seeing right through this so don't even try.

[Talitha]

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@Landover- Please revoke my status as Member. Thanks.

As a Godly Member, Brother, you get all of the benefits that Status brings. What more could you want than getting one step closer to The Truth?

Jesus guided you here for a purpose Brother. You should be shouting "GLORY" from the highest place.

[Bobby-Joe]

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And Jesus wants a totalitarian society. God having total control over the individual?

That’s what it calls for in The Bible friend.

Let me guess, you act as the voice of God.

No, we only act as He directs us to friend. God instructions about this are very clear in The Bible.

Thus, you could make it seem that God says anything you want Him to say just to advance your motives. I'm seeing right through this so don't even try.

Why do you hate freedom friend?

[Father Thomas Martin]

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Is anyone else here seeing that radical Christianity (especially in this case) advocates totalitarian society and total control over the lives of its people? Example: In the book 1984 (George Orwell), Big Brother:

Demonizes Sex
Constantly watches everyone all the time
Ostrasizes anyone that doesn't conform
Expresses total and complete intolerance for dissent

The list goes on. But do I really need to say more.

@Landover- Please revoke my status as Member. Thanks.

From one Thomas to another, glad to see you've stopped drinking the Kool-Aid!

Of course what does it mean when a member leaves? Does LBC say he was never saved in the first place? (Are they gonna mark you as "Aeternal (sic) Damnation Assured"?)

If so, come home to Rome!

[Talitha]

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From one Thomas to another, glad to see you've stopped drinking the Kool-Aid!

Of course what does it mean when a member leaves? Does LBC say he was never saved in the first place? (Are they gonna mark you as "Aeternal (sic) Damnation Assured"?)

If so, come home to Rome!

You can Log Out but.......
Nobody ever leaves............... EVER!!

[Father Thomas Martin]

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You can Log Out but.......
Nobody ever leaves............... EVER!!

I didn't know you were so controlling...I thought when he left, you'd let him go, and then laugh your head off because you think he's gonna burn in hell

[Talitha]

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I didn't know you were so controlling...I thought when he left, you'd let him go, and then laugh your head off because you think he's gonna burn in hell

I must admit, I do have a little chuckle to myself when I think about yet another foul Sinner being Zapped by God and then facing an Eternity of torment........
........BUT, let's not forget, this really isn't a laughing matter.
Not a huge Belly-laugh anyway. True Love of Jesus is no joke and every time another Sinner goes to Hell, It's another Sinner we failed to Save.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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I must admit, I do have a little chuckle to myself when I think about yet another foul Sinner being Zapped by God and then facing an Eternity of torment........
........BUT, let's not forget, this really isn't a laughing matter.
Not a huge Belly-laugh anyway. True Love of Jesus is no joke and every time another Sinner goes to Hell, It's another Sinner we failed to Save.

Amen, Sister Talitha. Every time a sinner rejects Jesus I am thrown into an almost endless depression and overwhelming sadness, almost to the point where I find myself lacking the will to go on. It is in those moments that Jesus provides me with the small uplift that I need to keep trying. Just that small chuckle at the thought of the eternal torment in the Lake of Fire and the Lord's swift justice being carried out is enough to renew my spirits.

Glory!

[One-eyed Jack]

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If Brother Thomas is still somewhere nearby...and reads this thread...

Imagine that Christianity, being founded on revelations from God Himself, has an eternal and changeless nature. The foundation of Christianity, the bedrock, rests on timeless and eternal truths...or assumptions.

Here some core assumptions of the Christian faith.

Men are either saved or damned.

Some men walk in God's grace; others walk contrary to God.

The Saved, those who walk with God, are righteous brethren.

Those who walk contrary to God are called fools, hypocrites, bloody men, serpents, wolves, vipers, dogs.

In Revelation we learn that Christians under Christ are destined to rule the Earth. TO RULE THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST ON EARTH!

George Grant wrote:

Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less... Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land -- of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ.

It is the duty -- the commandment -- of the Saved to rule over everyone else. The Saved are by definition better, wiser, and more moral. Therefore they shall rule.

What does this have to do with America? Well, a few years ago George Grant -- the fellow quoted above -- co-wrote a book with a mainstream American politician. The same politician has also hosted Christian Reconstructionists like Grant at his fundraisers.

That American politician is Mike Huckabee.

So! Praise the Lord, America is only a few steps away from a Godly merger of politics and Christianity! All we have to do is elect Mike Huckabee and we can hope that Christian morals, godliness, and dominion shall enter into every walk of life!

The power structure shall indeed and in fact be vertical: Huckabee's administration will take their marching orders straight from God. Not from the constitution and not (O Heaven forfend!) from the people. From God alone.

Call it a new dark ages if you want, Sir, call it totalitarianism...but Christians will call it ABOUT TIME!

So gird up your loins! Stone the vote! Get the glorious Word about Huckabee out on the streets!

Shout hallelujah!

~~ OEJ

[JennyD]

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I didn't know you were so controlling...I thought when he left, you'd let him go, and then laugh your head off because you think he's gonna burn in hell

Why would people like us, who spend our entire lives dedicated to bringing people to Jesus, LAUGH when a confused fellow like this Brother Thomas decides to recommit himself to sin and depraved Catholicism?

We are not evil, like you.

[Father Thomas Martin]

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Why would people like us, who spend our entire lives dedicated to bringing people to Jesus, LAUGH when a confused fellow like this Brother Thomas decides to recommit himself to sin and depraved Catholicism?

We are not evil, like you.

So, was he ever "Saved" or not?

[Justin Bill]

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Example: In the book 1984 (George Orwell), Big Brother:

Demonizes Sex
Constantly watches everyone all the time
Ostrasizes anyone that doesn't conform
Expresses total and complete intolerance for dissent

The list goes on. But do I really need to say more.

well, I personaly think george orwell stole the idea of a True Christian, landover society and just changed the name to Big Brother.

Brother Thomas, welcome to the fold!!

I think there is the song "Hotel California"

duh duh duh "once you check in, you can never leave".....

Its still possible to get in on the ground floor of the True Christian society, be the ruler of your own Christian planet...

oh wait, sorry, I was mixing religions again, Kolob does not exist, silly mormons.

Forgive me Ezekial,

Have you been to one of our single landover mixers? I am sure we can get you a good, subserviant woman to help fufill your destiny as a landover Baptist.

I look forward to the Pie eating contest, and you know how i like to eat pie...

[JennyD]

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So, was he ever "Saved" or not?

Obviously not. Once Saved, it is not possible to sin again.