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  • Jack O'fagan
    With faith as immovable as the Earth
    True Christian™
    • Feb 2011
    • 4836

    #1

    Killing Children for God

    I was very surprised with this article from Christian apologist William Lane Craig on the slaughter of the Canaanites. Although I do NOT agree with everything he says (he is not a strict creationist for example) he does fight for Jesus despite his limited mental facilities.



    Deuteronomy 7:1 When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

    William Lane Craig says
    So whom does God wrong in commanding the destruction of the Canaanites? Not the Canaanite adults, for they were corrupt and deserving of judgement. Not the children, for they inherit eternal life. So who is wronged? Ironically, I think the most difficult part of this whole debate is the apparent wrong done to the Israeli soldiers themselves. Can you imagine what it would be like to have to break into some house and kill a terrified woman and her children? The brutalizing effect on these Israeli soldiers is disturbing.
    He quite rightly has no compassion for the adults who had to be slaughtered. He also has no compassion for the children and babies who were put to the sword (he believes that they would go to heaven, this does not seem Biblical to me. I assumed they would roast in Hell with their parents. Maybe someone could help me with this). He does feel for the Israelite soldiers who may have been distressed by the experience of slicing up live infants for God.

    I was quite surprised by this as I'm sure that If I was around during those times I would have been swinging my sword with vigor as little arms and legs were flying through the air.

    I would know that I was doing right because I was following orders. Orders from God Himself.



    Craig knows that the slaughter was the right thing to do but would any real Christian feel brutalized for following God's orders? Surely not?

    YIC

    Jack
    Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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  • Bob4God
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    • Apr 2008
    • 5274

    #2
    Re: Killing Children for God

    Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
    Would any Christian feel brutalized for following God's orders? Surely not?
    Certainly not.

    William Lane Craig may be a big softy, or fluffy-bunny Christian. Not believing in literal creation is a major red flag.

    But no True Christian would feel anything but love and joy to carry out GOD's orders, even if it was one of His frequent orders for the butchering of children.

    So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. - Luke 17:10

    There is just no such thing as a self-pitying Christian.
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    • Bobby-Joe
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      • Sep 2006
      • 18405

      #3
      Re: Killing Children for God

      Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
      Would any Christian feel brutalized for following God's orders? Surely not?

      YIC

      Jack
      The ancient Israelites were professional operatives, no doubt about it. The target was designated, the termination sanctioned and they did the work, no question asked. Just as God likes it.

      Craig is a civi and hasn't been in the Belly of Beast. He has civis standards. Until you've been face to face with people who hate everything you stand for and want to kill you only for your way of life you don't understand why God can seem so brutal.

      I guarantee you the only thing that went threw those Israeli soldiers minds as they cut those children's throats was that this was a few quick and easy few hash marks on their kill cards.

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      • Jack O'fagan
        With faith as immovable as the Earth
        True Christian™
        • Feb 2011
        • 4836

        #4
        Re: Killing Children for God

        Actually maybe I wasn't totally fair on Craig. Later in the article he says

        No one was wringing his hands over the soldiers’ having to kill the Canaanites; those who did so were national heroes.
        Heroes for God himself!
        GLORY

        Jack



        Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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        • Bob4God
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          • Apr 2008
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          #5
          Re: Killing Children for God

          Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
          Actually maybe I wasn't totally fair on Craig. Later in the article he says

          Heroes for God himself!
          GLORY
          Amen!

          I know my idea of a national hero is one who has killed more than a few children, and their mommies and daddies, too!
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          • Rev. M. Rodimer
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            • May 2008
            • 13996

            #6
            Re: Killing Children for God

            I'm a bit disturbed by Craig's assertion that:

            Not the children, for they inherit eternal life.
            Huh? Where exactly does he get that idea?
            Bible boring? Nonsense!
            Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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            • Billy Bob Jenkins
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              True Christian™
              • May 2010
              • 8337

              #7
              Re: Killing Children for God

              Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
              Huh? Where exactly does he get that idea?
              This is very sad. I suspect Doctor Craig is just too weak willed to accept God as He really is. So he must pretend God is something acceptable to him. Dr. Craig's fear of eternal damnation is just so intense that he cannot accept the reality that God is going to inflict it upon him.

              Dr. Craig is too feeble minded to accept the plain language of the Bible. It terrifies him and revolts him. Too bad he will still burn in Hell despite all the lies he has told himself. The "God" he believes in is a false version, not the One True God. And we know what God does to those who worship false gods!

              (See Deuteronomy 4:24)

              I rejoice that God has predetermined to damn Dr. Willian lane Craig straight to the Lake of Fire upon his death, which cannot come soon enough! Rejoice in the Lord always!

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              • Jack O'fagan
                With faith as immovable as the Earth
                True Christian™
                • Feb 2011
                • 4836

                #8
                Re: Killing Children for God

                Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                I'm a bit disturbed by Craig's assertion that:



                Huh? Where exactly does he get that idea?
                He isn't very bright and he makes stuff up that just isn't Biblical. Most of the people who listen to him are also feeble minded and don't notice that he does this. This is what he says,

                Moreover, if we believe, as I do, that God’s grace is extended to those who die in infancy or as small children, the death of these children was actually their salvation. We are so wedded to an earthly, naturalistic perspective that we forget that those who die are happy to quit this earth for heaven’s incomparable joy. Therefore, God does these children no wrong in taking their lives


                YIC

                Jack
                Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                • Rev. M. Rodimer
                  Honorary True Christian™
                  Forum Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 13996

                  #9
                  Re: Killing Children for God

                  Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                  He isn't very bright and he makes stuff up that just isn't Biblical. Most of the people who listen to him are also feeble minded and don't notice that he does this. This is what he says,




                  YIC

                  Jack
                  That would explain why he threw his own children off a tall building, to ensure their entry into Heaven.

                  Wait, he didn't do that? I wonder why not?

                  Could it be he knows he's telling feelgood lies?
                  Bible boring? Nonsense!
                  Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                  You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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