[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

The Bible is the only way to learn about Christ, friend. If you don't trust what the Bible tells you about Christ, then you might as well just admit that you don't know anything Him. You don't know enough about Him to know whether you like Him or not. If you don't trust the Bible, then you are just making up your own false religion as you go.

Have fun in Hell.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

I don't trust large amounts of the bible because it was written by corruptible, forgetful, fallible MEN. it is human nature to mess things up. the parts of the bible I DO trust are the passages about peace and kindness towards all. you should take things with a grain of salt, don't blindly accept something because a book says it. the forefront of knowledge is above many aspects of heresy. truth and kindness should be the new world order, but currently it's lies suffering and prejudice.

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

That would explain why it wasn't understood here.

In all your education, were you never taught the difference between a Baptist (follows the Bible word for word, worships the Trinity (God/Jesus/Holy Spirit), and nothing else) and a Catholic (picks and chooses little bits of the Bible and mixes it with bizarre Pagan traditions such as celibacy and cannibalism -- your crackers -- and prays to Mary, the dead woman who bore God when He impregnated her with Himself so He could be born, along with a bunch of man-made "saints" and idols?

We are not Catholics, and we do not worship crackers.

I'm very sorry my mistake. but you understand it's an allegory for the last supper right? Mary was alive when she gave birth to Jesus. celibacy isn't really a bizarre pagan tradition, they were the orgy throwers remember? Celibacy was implemented by the Catholic church so they could increase their land mass by annexing their priests land when they died, which would go to their wives (celibacy eliminated such) otherwise.

on another note, i never said anything about saints or idols, quote me on it if i'm wrong. the writings, the bible and the laws are all man made.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: I like your christ.

the parts of the bible I DO trust are the passages about peace and kindness towards all.

So you trust the parts you like and you throw away the rest of it. It sounds like you are just making up your own religion, then.

I don't trust large amounts of the bible because it was written by corruptible, forgetful, fallible MEN.

MEN are fallible, but God is not. God promised to keep His Word pure. Pure means free from corruption. Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the writers to write His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it written? Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the translators to translate His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it translated?

The Bible is how we come to know God. What kind of God worth worshiping would allow the only way to know Him to become corrupted?

By the way, YOU are also a corruptible, forgetful, fallible human. How can you judge which parts of the Bible to follow and which parts to throw away?

You shouldn't throw ANY of it away. Every bit of it is God's Word.

2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Did you read that? It said ALL scripture. Not just the parts you like. You have to follow the parts you don't like too. Once you get saved, you'll find that there aren't any parts you don't like, and that is a glorious thing!

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

If you would format your posts to make them easier to read, using proper grammar and punctuation, we might be able to understand your posts the first time through. As it is, you come off sounding like a drug-addled hippie.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

if you would learn to speak english in a more proper manner, cracked open a thesaurus dictionary and read the passages all the way through, read some old literature, enjoyed poetry and actually knew something about grammar and punctuation, then you might understand my posts better. however i can admit my slips. the last "try" in the text that you quoted should've been "tried." feel free to quote my other "slip ups" and any punctuation errors you may see, as well as anything you generally do not understand about my system of syntax and such and i will be happy to correct and simplify these things for you. but keep in mind, the KJV was written in 1604 and published in 1611. during the period of shakespeare. have you read old-school shakespeare? I must be easier to understand than him. sorry if you need a college degree to understand me. they must not have fancy things like that in the deep south (that was for Nobar King, don't you dare even think about making an ill comment on my mother)

[JennyD]

Re: I like your christ.

<useless blather>

Would you now care to respond to the content of Pastor Billy-Reuben's post about God's Word, or are you here to yammer senselessly about your very own semi-literate system of grammar?

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: I like your christ.

sorry if you need a college degree to understand me.

More precisely, one needs a college degree in special education to understand you.

I have several college degrees.

my system of syntax

Why do you have your own system of syntax? Why not try using the standard system of syntax that everyone else shares?

feel free to quote my other "slip ups" and any punctuation errors you may see

Will do.

If you would learn to speak English in a more proper manner, cracked open a thesaurus or dictionary and read the passages all the way through, read some old literature, enjoyed poetry, and actually knew something about grammar and punctuation, then you might understand my posts better. However, I can admit my slips. The last "try" in the text that you quoted should've been "tried." Feel free to quote my other "slip ups" and any punctuation errors you may see, as well as anything that you generally do not understand about my system of syntax and such, and I will be happy to correct and simplify these things for you -- but keep in mind, the KJV was written in 1604 and published in 1611, during the period of Shakespeare. Have you read old-school Shakespeare? I must be easier to understand than him. Sorry if you need a college degree to understand me. They must not have fancy things like that in the deep south (that was for Nobar King, don't you dare even think about making an ill comment on my mother)

That's just the grammatical corrections. Your sentences are poorly planned and are in need of restructuring.

Yes, I have read all of Shakespeare's works. They are much easier to understand than your poorly constructed prose.

You weren't trying to claim that you are a better writer than the bard, were you?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

So you trust the parts you like and you throw away the rest of it. It sounds like you are just making up your own religion, then.


MEN are fallible, but God is not. God promised to keep His Word pure. Pure means free from corruption. Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the writers to write His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it written? Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the translators to translate His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it translated?

The Bible is how we come to know God. What kind of God worth worshiping would allow the only way to know Him to become corrupted?

By the way, YOU are also a corruptible, forgetful, fallible human. How can you judge which parts of the Bible to follow and which parts to throw away?

You shouldn't throw ANY of it away. Every bit of it is God's Word.

2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Did you read that? It said ALL scripture. Not just the parts you like. You have to follow the parts you don't like too. Once you get saved, you'll find that there aren't any parts you don't like, and that is a glorious thing!

Pastor Billy-Reuben

i am not telling people they have to believe me, much like Confucianism, it can be added on to any religion, it's like an extra peace clause. I, personally, don't want any followers, I choose to remain an individual and will stay as such until.. well i take that very last bit back. I will always be an individual, not a sheep like you. i will think for myself. what works for some doesn't work for others.

for all of your corruption theories i pose to you this idea. Islam. yeah, you know the sunni group (the ONLY group the terrorists come from, they are the ones bending the rules) that religion was started on the idea that God's message was misinterpreted, another idea was that you should not worship Jesus nor Muhammad, nor any man, only God. And here's the kicker, IT'S THE SAME GOD! THE SAME AS JEHOVAH, THE SAME AS GOD, ALLAH IS JUST AN ARABIC WORD.

all scripture is not worth an abandonment of personal honor. my soul is not worth that. i will defend it till forever more. yeah i did read that it said ALL scripture, but you know what else i noticed, it also said "is given by inspiration of God" you have just proved that it is not a direct note. And as for the men of god being perfect, i ask you: what is perfection? if it the way that the people that use these forums behave, then you are worshipping the wrong god (there is a reason it is uncapitalised here). For people that seem to hate Jewish people so much you all seem to Love their old testament God, the killer one (he kills about 2.6 million people in the old testament), the hater (decreeing to kill everything that is not christian). what i have the ulltimate trouble understanding, is that if you believe so strongly in the biblical code, the ten commandments, that plainly state thou shalt not kill. then why do you go about on this premeditated rampage of hatred, disclusion and YES even murder against others? especially when you have it stated that it is wrong.

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

More precisely, one needs a college degree in special education to understand you.

I have several college degrees.


Why do you have your own system of syntax? Why not try using the standard system of syntax that everyone else shares?


Will do.



That's just the grammatical corrections. Your sentences are poorly planned and are in need of restructuring.

Yes, I have read all of Shakespeare's works. They are much easier to understand than your poorly constructed prose.

You weren't trying to claim that you are a better writer than the bard, were you?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

thankyou for that, i will be sure to hit f7 more often. if you have really read all of shakespeares works then you have observed all the smut, slander, incest, rape, murder (tons of that) connivation and of course the usurpation betrayal and heartlessness. what kind of Christian would read that? and no, i was not comparing myself to the great bard, i prefer to be received as more of an E.E. Cummings. I prefer not to capitalise for if i waste my energy holding the shift key it relinquishes my control over thought. and a comment or two on your review... cracked should remain cracked, as well as enjoyed, it is still being refered to as past tense, that is an optional word, the sentence makes sense with, and without it. the reduction of the word more from the first sentance is unnecessary as it refers to your already basic understanding of english, removing it makes you look like a dolt. the addition of or was appropriate, good job!

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

Would you now care to respond to the content of Pastor Billy-Reuben's post about God's Word, or are you here to yammer senselessly about your very own semi-literate system of grammar?

Congratulations! You are a bad person! no worse than the outer members of this trio, but neither better.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

i am not telling people they have to believe me, much like Confucianism, it can be added on to any religion, it's like an extra peace clause. I, personally, don't want any followers, I choose to remain an individual and will stay as such until.. well i take that very last bit back. I will always be an individual, not a sheep like you. i will think for myself. what works for some doesn't work for others.

So Christianity as God intended it isn't good enough for you.

for all of your corruption theories i pose to you this idea. Islam. yeah, you know the sunni group (the ONLY group the terrorists come from, they are the ones bending the rules) that religion was started on the idea that God's message was misinterpreted, another idea was that you should not worship Jesus nor Muhammad, nor any man, only God. And here's the kicker, IT'S THE SAME GOD! THE SAME AS JEHOVAH, THE SAME AS GOD, ALLAH IS JUST AN ARABIC WORD.

You've got your facts all wrong. Jesus and God are one and the same. The Muslim moon god is a demon, NOT God.

Take a look at this.

all scripture is not worth an abandonment of personal honor. my soul is not worth that. i will defend it till forever more.

That's just a jumble of words. Would you mind rephrasing it so that it makes sense?

yeah i did read that it said ALL scripture, but you know what else i noticed, it also said "is given by inspiration of God" you have just proved that it is not a direct note.

You rudely ignored my previous questions. I'll ask them again here:

Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the writers to write His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it written?

Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the translators to translate His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it translated?

And as for the men of god being perfect, ...

Who said that men of God were perfect? No one is perfect except for God.

For people that seem to hate Jewish people so much

Who hates Jewish people? Those are some strong allegations you are throwing around. Why must you spread lies about us?

their old testament God, the killer one (he kills about 2.6 million people in the old testament), the hater (decreeing to kill everything that is not christian).

There is no difference between the "Old Testament God" and the "New Testament God". It's the same God, and His nature does not change.

what i have the ulltimate trouble understanding, is that if you believe so strongly in the biblical code, the ten commandments, that plainly state thou shalt not kill.

You can't just pull a random verse out of context. The ten commandments describes how believers should behave towards each other. God also commands us to go to war and demands the death penalty for specific sins.

then why do you go about on this premeditated rampage of hatred, disclusion and YES even murder against others? especially when you have it stated that it is wrong.

What in God's green earth are you talking about? What hatred? What disclusion? What murder?

What is wrong with you? Are you crazy or something?

cracked should remain cracked, as well as enjoyed, it is still being refered to as past tense

Then "learn" should have also been in the past tense. You can't mix tenses in a conjunctive clause.

If you have really read all of shakespeares works then you have observed all the smut, slander, incest, rape, murder (tons of that) connivation and of course the usurpation betrayal and heartlessness. what kind of Christian would read that?

Um, have you ever read the Bible? Shakespeare's got nothing.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

Just because it's in the bible doesn't mean you have to A. believe it, B. frequent it about, and most importantly C. accept it. if you believe everything you read then you may want to meet the dragon living in my garage. his name is Ted, and he wants to wish you all a happy 'morrow. do you believe it because it is written? no. because dragon's don't exist? no. are you going to tell your friends to accept it? no. But are you going to accept it? (as you would say it) hell no. your republicans are using this against you. i'm not saying we should rise up against the oppressive leaders as Jesus did. but you know what? we stay like this every day. or rather you do. i cannot, it is maddening. you are all sheep, herded by the lord. negative connotations all around.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: I like your christ.

i'm not saying we should rise up against the oppressive leaders as Jesus did.

When did Jesus do that?

you are all sheep, herded by the lord. negative connotations all around.

OK, atheist, it looks like you have finally revealed yourself. Go mock God somewhere else.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

So Christianity as God intended it isn't good enough for you.
Pastor Billy-Reuben

No, I am explaining that it is not good enough for mankind.

You've got your facts all wrong. Jesus and God are one and the same. The Muslim moon god is a demon, NOT God.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Save your soul, take a dip (that's a metaphor) in reading the Qu'ran, or the Hadid. Muhammad was given the teachings of the Qu'ran by the angel gabriel. why would god send down an archangel to skew his image? why does this malevolent god torture humanity in such a way by making it impossible to become saved?

Take a look at this.


That's just a jumble of words. Would you mind rephrasing it so that it makes sense?


You rudely ignored my previous questions. I'll ask them again here:

Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the writers to write His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it written?

Do you think God is incapable of divinely inspiring the translators to translate His Word in exactly the way that He wanted it translated?


Who said that men of God were perfect? No one is perfect except for God.
Pastor Billy-Reuben

sorry about that i've been busy reading tons of posts.
I think God can very well inspire writers to write things, I think it beyond humanity to do it right see the niceane council. they should cite their sources.
yes i think god IS incapable of inspiring translators to write things down in his exact word because things get lost in translation too much.
If God is perfect, then why doth evil exist? he is malevolent, if he is omnipotent and benificient, then why go throught he whole Earth phase, why not just keep souls in heaven and keep them clean there without sending his "son" to be tortured?

Who hates Jewish people? Those are some strong allegations you are throwing around. Why must you spread lies about us?
Pastor Billy-Reuben

I have read the posts, i have rad the articles, it is plainly spread around that the jewish people are held in low regard, much with all other races.

There is no difference between the "Old Testament God" and the "New Testament God". It's the same God, and His nature does not change.
Pastor Billy-Reuben

really, because in the old testament, god kills about 2.6 million people, and in the new testamant he barely kills anyone, except for everyone deemed unpure at the end (rapture, revelations, etc). seems like a subtle attack on jewish faith.

You can't just pull a random verse out of context. The ten commandments describes how believers should behave towards each other. God also commands us to go to war and demands the death penalty for specific sins.
Pastor Billy-Reuben

really because that hardly solves any problems on earth, it just promotes isolationism.

What in God's green earth are you talking about? What hatred? What disclusion? What murder?

What is wrong with you? Are you crazy or something?
Pastor Billy-Reuben

i have oft been questioned as to not only my sobriety, to my sanity, and to my personal discernment. I can assure you: I am completely sober, I am completely sane, and I have exhibited great judgement throughout my life. the hatred is all around, observe that you disallow the use of the word nigger on your forums (it is a rule, you is plural) yet you use many other words that are just as hurtful. there is an entire branch of these forums dedicated to male conversation, forbade from it are women and homosexuals, this is disclusion. I'll admit, maybe the murder accusation was a bit strong, yesterday i observed a post describing the boast of an attack on an african american human, it made me sick honestly. but it was somewhat unclear as to the severity of the beating this african american human endured.

Um, have you ever read the Bible? Shakespeare's got nothing.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

I have read both, i have partaken in many forms of literature. and i must say, the bible is less than satisfying.

[JennyD]

Re: I like your christ.

Congratulations! You are a bad person! no worse than the outer members of this trio, but neither better.

How am I a "bad person" for posting a cartoon showing someone with an equally unintelligible and moronic system of grammar (ebonics)?

[NotRealist]

Re: I like your christ.

When did Jesus do that?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Jesus did this shortly before becoming Crucified, he was born a hebrew child, he was a very intelligent man later on, and led the hebrew nation to take back the holy land for themselves. but this was seen as treason by the Roman government (let's not kid ourselves it is), so they ordered his execution. did you know that historical censuses, jail notes and legal documents mention nothing of a barabus around this time?

OK, atheist, it looks like you have finally revealed yourself. Go mock God somewhere else.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

i am not an atheist, I am a deist, the world would not exist at all without some higher power, and i do not mock your God, I only mock your form of belief, Look at Pascal's wager. you can tell me that i can be an atheist and never know if i am right, so i should play it safe and be a baptist like you, but so can everyone else! EVERYONE! (for emphasis) the commonality between all of their arguments is that if i'm an atheist then i'll never know if my "faith" was correct. so i could just play it safe and be an atheist, but i know that a God exists. maybe even gods. but you know... I think that it'd be much happier if i go about and make the world a better place instead of converting everyone with blackmail (ex: if you don't you'll go to hell). If you continue to go against everyone who isn't just like you, then let me tell you somehting: there is a circle for you all, the ninth, it is called Antenora, it is below all the wickedness you hate. and i find it ironic. wouldn't you? BTW, if you didn't understand that, read dante's inferno, the english version.