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  • Oh Dear...

    When I had first stumbled upon this site, I had read through some of your sermons, chuckling to myself, thinking... hoping, that this website was satire. Unfortunately, upon further investigation, I had found that you people were actually being serious. And it concerns me greatly. Never have I seen a greater collection of anti intellectualism in my life. This is... on par with the westboro baptist church, honestly. You act like science and scientific achievements are the bane of existence, but of course you all enjoy the commodities it has provided you, which is infinitely more than prayer has gotten you (which by the way, numerous studies have been done about the effect of prayer--it does nothing http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1072638.ece ). Vegans are modern day witches? Seriously? I've never heard more ill-informed codswallop in my life. They're animal rights activists that happen to find something immoral about killing or exploiting another living being, go figure. Something you all seem to have a hard time grasping. If ANYTHING, I would have to say that Wiccans are modern day witches, since they are, uh... witches.

    I already know that you've all been so indoctrinated in your belief system, that whatever I say is going to immediately be dismissed as I don't know.. an attempt by Satan to confuse you and lead you away from the path of God. Since apparently common sense and critical thinking are sins that I'd forgotten about. Since all of you seem to think that the Bible in itself is inerrant, and the 'true word of God', I ask you, how can that be when it contradicts itself an exceedingly large number of times?

    PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
    JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.


    GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



    GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
    GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.



    "I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14)

    "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."
    "The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
    "For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
    "The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
    "God is love." (1JO 4:16)



    ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

    DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.


    aand the list goes on and on. If you would like to see a large collection of them you can go here, or here, I personally like the second link. But you can always google it yourselves.

    If you really want to know when the second coming of Jesus is, and when Armageddon is supposed to happen, you have to look no further than the almighty Bible!

    "MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
    LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled."

    I don't know what excuses you'll come up with to try and defend your precious bronze age book, but I'm tired of finding non-christians that have a greater understanding of the Bible than the lot of you. I guess it was kind of a good idea in concept, but I'm sorry, the Bible is flawed. The original copies, as far as I know, don't exist anymore. And even the most accurate copies are going to be in ancient Hebrew and Greek. It is not realistic to act like the Bible is the know-all, that ends all about all things. There is enough room in this world for people of different faiths, belief systems, and science, without you having to be condescending about a flawed organization of thought.

    Do you people honestly have the gall to tell someone who has dedicated decades of their life to research and study about a subject that since you have faith in Jesus and the book of God, that you know more than they do? (in reference to one of the sermon's on this website). I challenge you to explain to me in detail the difference between animal and plant cells, how to observe atoms, how to construct a computer and explain how its processor calculates things, and honestly tell me that you got those answers from faith and the Bible? I don't think so.

    Stop being lazy and being content with saying 'things are the way they are because God says so'... There is something greatly wrong with willful ignorance. Did you know that the 'big bang theory' and 'evolution' doesn't necessarily disagree with the idea of creationism? Just because you don't understand these concepts, does not give you the right to automatically dismiss them, and then say with confidence that you know better because you have God on your side. That's asinine, and ludicrous. Pick up a book and learn about something other than Jesus.

    You all act like atheists, and scientists are all out to get you, taking every opportunity they can to debunk your religion we can get, leading every person we can to Satan, but you couldn't be farther from the truth. Honestly, we couldn't give a shit less what you believe. We just empirically try expand our understanding of the natural world, and the conclusions that we have come to do not exist for the sole purpose of destroying your belief system. Go ahead and believe in God, and Jesus, or santa, or the flying spaghetti monster, or whatever, we don't care.

    It's when you shamelessly try to force those belief systems onto other people that we have a problem. Realistically, people should be able to do whatever they please as long as it doesn't infringe on another being's rights (theft-->right to property, murder-->right to life, oppression-->freedom of will/thought). Take note that there is more to that, so I ask you not to try and argue with me on this point, pedophilia is wrong because children aren't sexually mature enough to have sex, beastiality is wrong because animals can't communicate absolute consensualism, and incest is wrong because a resulting child would be genetically disfigured, etc.

    I don't want your 'love', as no rational person should, I want your acceptance of me being another human that shares this planet with you; flawed just as all the rest of you are, But I still try to be the best person I can, and you have to understand that. Atheists, homosexuals, Buddhists, Vegetarians, you name it, as long as they behave in a fashion that doesn't infringe upon other peoples' rights as human beings, they are no more or less moral than an outstanding christian. It is NOT your job to promote your shamefully ignorant idealism, or save them from your own demons.

    I'll end by giving you some food for thought. You all obviously believe in an eternal soul, and that our actions in our pitifully short lives will determine whether we are to spend an eternity in hell, or an eternity in heaven. I ask you, do you really want to spend an eternity anywhere? Unless God is going to grant you an extremely short memory of course. The idea of an eternal after life is extremely appealing to our greedy race, obsessed with its own mortality. But is that even realistic? The prospect of death at any given time is what gives life significance. How worried about dying would every one be if nobody could die? How satisfied with otherworldly pleasure are you going to be if there is no escape. Entertaining for several lifetimes I'm sure, but millions, even billions and trillions of years? And what about good people that came before Christianity? (since there certainly are some), are they also condemned to spend an eternity in hell?

    If you actually read through all of this and took it to heart, I congratulate you. I want you to know, that I did not want to start an argument.

  • #2
    Re: Oh Dear...

    Originally posted by LoganJ View Post
    This is... on par with the westboro baptist church, honestly.
    I want you to know, that I did not want to start an argument.
    You start by comparing us to those WBC liebrals and then say you don't want to start an argument?
    Psalm 81:10:
    I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
    open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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    • #3
      Re: Oh Dear...

      Originally posted by LoganJ View Post
      The original copies, as far as I know, don't exist anymore.
      What the Hell is an original copy? If it's a copy, how can it be original?

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        Re: Oh Dear...

        You're not saying anything we haven't heard a million times.

        Where in the Bible does it say that the LORD your GOD doesn't have a right to destroy what He created at any given time? If He gives life, He can take it away and it's not our place to question why.

        These so-called "contradictions" are nothing more than verses being taken out of context and people's attempts to invalidate the absolute truth. People do not like the idea that they have to answer to a being higher than themselves, and make every possible attempt to disprove His existence.

        I quote this a lot because it is so relevant:

        "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." -1st Corinthians 2:14

        Spiritual things are spirtually discerned. If you aren't in a personal relationship with JESUS CHRIST, then how do you expect to understand his letters to us? There was a time when I thought the Bible was nonsense, but I realized that I was thinking too much, and not allowing the Holy Spirit to guide me.
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          Re: Oh Dear...

          Mate don't even bother these christians are going to be around until WW3. after that of course all religions will be outlawed as they were fragments of the old society that cuased the war.

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          • #6
            Re: Oh Dear...

            Originally posted by Free will View Post
            Mate don't even bother these christians are going to be around until WW3. after that of course all religions will be outlawed as they were fragments of the old society that cuased the war.
            That doesn't sound very "free" to me, friend. Maybe "Stalin's will" would be a more appropriate name for you?
            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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            • #7
              Re: Oh Dear...

              Originally posted by Free will View Post
              Mate don't even bother these christians are going to be around until WW3. after that of course all religions will be outlawed as they were fragments of the old society that cuased the war.
              Listen pal, the only thing that will be going down in the Final Conflict will be you secularist and your Islamo-Fascist play pals. We Christians have been getting ready for this fight for 2,000 years and we an't going to be the ones with the short end of the stick.

              Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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