[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Homosexuals are forcing Jesus to watch them have ANAL SEX!!

There's a difference between "catholic" and Roman Catholicism, isn't there? Surely before the Church of the East (Persian) and the Oriental Orthodox (Indian, Copts, Ethiopian) and the Eastern (Russian, Greek, etc.) Orthodox hived themselves off, along with assorted other heretics, there was only one Church? Maybe for a century? Or two?

If pre-existing pagan temples combined in some way during the Roman period, that would not have anything to do with Jesus and would preserve all their old idols. If those temples were not viable individually, due to innovations in Greek philosophy say, eventually their new combined format would simply disintegrate – but the priesthood would get a few more generations to fleece all participants. That could be checked out I guess by looking up the dates for various Greek (and later Roman) gods and goddesses and comparing them to later history.

The Church originated by Jesus, on the other hand, started as a single (small) group and expanded.

Matthew 28:19-20 [Jesus speaking] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Clearly this would not give rise to the Romish heresy and the rag-bag of idols they cart around, whatever their origin. The fact that later groups could take up things NOT commanded by Jesus or even dream up new ideas CONTRADICTING what He's said would lead to all sorts of variations from the original – but distinct from all that disbelieving pope nonsense. Perhaps I'm mistaken though?

It would be great if they turned to Christ and left the idols behind, in either case. After all, there is no such thing as a Christian homosexual.

[handmaiden]

Re: Homosexuals are forcing Jesus to watch them have ANAL SEX!!

. . . there is no such thing as a Christian homosexual.

Preach it, Sister! So many of those self-deluded types insist that Jesus never specifically said a word about homosexuality. But He did make a point of telling people to obey God's Word and there are plenty of places in the Old Testament that declare homosexuality to be a sin.

Then, Jesus specifically appointed His Apostles to teach on His behalf and they wrote additional scripture in the New Testament condemning homosexuality very clearly. What more do some people need?

If people such as homosexuals want to go around saying "God loves me as I am." then they need to invent another God. The one detailed in the Bible--which is the only book we have for learning about the existence of Jesus--doesn't like homosexuality!

It is specifically declared to be an abomination, not a "choice" or an "alternative way of being". Genocide, slavery and rape are never explicitly declared to be abominations. The Bible just treats them as part of life and offers careful guidelines for how to manage those practices.

In fact, that's another clue that God doesn't allow for any gay stuff at all. If there were any allowances made for such activities, God would have included a few rules to make sure things were done in good order and in such a way as to secure a stable society. That's why slaves can only be subjected to certain forms of punishment, and the economic realities of rape need to addressed.

God likes things done just so. Even heterosexual marital relations are carefully proscribed regarding timing and certain delicate matters. He doesn't just let married people wing it for themselves. He is a detailed-oriented Deity.

If He were okay with homosexuality, believe me, He would have said so. It's not like Him to leave something like that unwritten when practically His whole thing was writing a big book of rules and revelations.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Homosexuals are forcing Jesus to watch them have ANAL SEX!!

Some great points there, especially how Jesus didn't need to recite the whole Old Testament every time He spoke just to provide context. The people He was speaking to would already know that.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Abandoned wretches always come up with new words to justify their libidinous appetites. "Anything in the gin joint" translates readily as bisexual or polyamorous so that fidelity becomes not only undesirable but impossible. Perhaps in bygone centuries there were houses where one could simply turn up to see who else was there, themed according preference, or where small parties of two or more could meet. For example, whatever "furries" were called in 1692, there'd be a place they could go to dress up as tapirs snurfling around doing whatever tapir furries do. But no-one expected them to be acknowledged as tapirs outside their house of assignation. (Sort of like a 17th century furry speakeasy.) But for someone married, persisting with polyamorous tapir liaisons is adultery. Making up a word for it doesn't change that. God continues:

James 2:1-4 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; and ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

James wouldn't have known that one day furries would waltz around expecting to be addressed as their species of choice in public. God knew though, and of course they both knew about libertines up for "anything in the gin joint" so we do have a very good message for the 21st century where everyone gets their own truth and nobody is ever wrong. Many homosexuals parading themselves as "bisexual" or "polyamorous" have enough money to get themselves on TV, dripping in bling and tasteless fabrics. Fawning respect to him that weareth the gay clothing is almost guaranteed, or to others with a gold ring on every other finger, great tawdry globs, their every utterance deferred to even in places pretending to follow God.