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  • Poetic Peter
    Christian Poet Emeritus
    Forum Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1696

    #1

    Critical Inputs Forum no.1

    For poets wanting constructive criticisms, to better themselves
    in the eyes of God.


    -Please try to critique a poem or three for others
    for every one you post of your own
  • Poetic Peter
    Christian Poet Emeritus
    Forum Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1696

    #2
    reactions solicited for this unpublished poem

    .


    Whimsel

    affirms to children the value of good cheer


    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


    Whimsel Brousel, Philosopher—
    you've likely never heard of him.
    Relatively—figs to Newton,
    he was Light
    and loved Impossible.

    Late one lack of starry night
    Whimsel rolled about
    in one of his fate's shorter sleeps.

    Whimsel's appetite for light
    woke up Whimsel gnawing
    —jawing him to state aloud
    "I'm famished for a snack of light."

    So Whimsel Brousel
    (wrapped in a towsel)
    shumbled to his humble kitchen,
    where there stood—
    a cupboard

    —is it yet clear his story dates
    near as old as Mother Hubbard?

    In the cupboard Brousel bared:
    "Why, not a speck of light's left here."

    Whereupon our Whimsel Brousel
    laid his towel in the cupboard
    and waxed a candle on it there.
    "I'll restore my stock of light
    by Natural Regenesis."


    Hear the children of today
    shouting warning,

    Beware Whimsel oh oh noooo!


    We're so sorry—

    Whimsel Brousel cannot hear.
    He was deaf you see. Besides,
    this was all so long ago,
    a cuckoo clock could never count,
    nor cuckoo Whimsel ears.

    Return there now, now with our Whimsel:
    he's glided back to Nodder'Z eezzz.

    Thank goodness for inventions—his
    nosealarm has just set off:

    Ka-choo! Ka-Koff!
    rewakes our Whimsel, whooping, whalping:
    "Oh my stars! The house! On fire!"

    Recall, please, our Whimsel Brousel
    lived on loosened light?
    This was to be, and how it was,
    one very well-fed night.

    Not to worry, not a whit
    —Whimsel Brousel healed just fine,

    and later could be found a'snooze
    in our stumped Alder's living-time,
    lying on a bed—right here,
    of towels, given him by Baptist

    children—Whimsel is a well-liked man.

    "Joy! ..My new cupboard's never bare.
    All the world is in it here above and near
    my stars—the days—all lights
    delight for me, that I may live for Ever now,
    to mind the young, as real as Life,

    no-one should be hungered in the Light!"


    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=



    Last edited by Poetic Peter; 11-26-2006, 01:47 PM.

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    • Poetic Peter
      Christian Poet Emeritus
      Forum Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 1696

      #3
      Re: Critical Inputs Forum no.1

      The author reads Whimsel aloud
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      __________


      In olden times poetry was almost always an oral form of communication.
      Most people were illiterate. Bards communicated stories of Biblical and secular interest by their spoken words.


      The item above examples a poem tailored for the ear and not just for the eye. Most poety should be recitable. However, most poetry of today is readable, but not so very recitable--not by intent of the authors, but by their ingnoring the fact that the printed word is assimilated by the brain quite differently than the verbal word.

      I would encourage all poets to recite their works to themselves as they compose.
      By this means more consistent and better poetry will result.

      A handy freeware recorder is found here.

      What good is it?
      Well, it converts the sound file into .swf (Flash) form. This file-type can be hosted for free at imageshack.us
      You can share audio readings with friends, or with this forum, if you'll be that bold.

      Boldness pays. You must be forward to be heard. Therefore, please apply poems to this critical thread. You'll get honest Christian reactions.
      You don't want mollycoddling here. Nor do I.

      For first-instance, if you don't like Whimsel, for whatever reason, it is requested that you say so.

      If you, casual reader, don't feel "qualified" to offer an opinion, I hasten to assure you that
      your opinion counts, even if the writer might not agree with your thought.

      Anyone may apply a poem to the critical panels.
      Anyone may apply criticism to these poems; even if just to say "I don't like it." or "It makes no sense." All inputs, short or long, add to the poet's perspective, and help the poetic make better poems.

      Thanks,
      Peter

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      • Glendora Christianson
        Spiritual Mother of LBC
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 2329

        #4
        Re: reactions solicited for this unpublished poem

        Originally posted by Poetic Peter View Post
        .


        Whimsel

        affirms to children the value of good cheer
        I listened to it on a loop, at least 20 times before I realized how pleasantly relaxed I was feeling. What a wonderful betime story. I'm working on a poem about Queet Vashti, but need a nap now.
        Jesus - gentle, dependable overnight relief.

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        • Pastor Al E Pistle
          Christ's Cōnsiliārius
           
          • Sep 2006
          • 9323

          #5
          Re: Critical Inputs Forum no.1

          Originally posted by Poetic Peter View Post
          I wonder that we have a neo-A.A. Milne here.....but what would such a person be doing at Landover?

          We doesn't know, does we, Precious!
          Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
          "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
          Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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          • Poetic Peter
            Christian Poet Emeritus
            Forum Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1696

            #6
            Re: Critical Inputs Forum no.1

            Thank you both for the very kind words.

            Reader-poets, please apply poems here.
            That Whimsel is sort-of-done; I've worked over it for months.

            Put up fresh poems please, and let's workshop them together in fine style?




            Best, Peter

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            • Poetic Peter
              Christian Poet Emeritus
              Forum Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 1696

              #7
              de-punctuated truth

              life is
              good death
              is nothing

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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78556

                #8
                Re: de-punctuated truth

                Originally posted by Poetic Peter View Post
                life is
                good death
                is nothing
                Are you one of those goth boys? I'm not getting this death stuff....
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                • eliot mayfield
                  God Squad
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 9324

                  #9
                  Re: reactions solicited for this unpublished poem

                  Originally posted by Glendora Christianson View Post
                  I listened to it on a loop, at least 20 times before I realized how pleasantly relaxed I was feeling. What a wonderful betime story. I'm working on a poem about Queet Vashti, but need a nap now.

                  Warning! Warning!
                  This is serious. What is going on here? Sister glenndy using "new age" terms??
                  Come on people:
                  Wake up!

                  Is the word "poetry" in the KJV 161? NO!

                  I am praying for you all for I fear someone has put some LDS or something in the landover water supply!
                  Matthew:
                  5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
                  5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
                  10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
                  10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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                  • Poetic Peter
                    Christian Poet Emeritus
                    Forum Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1696

                    #10
                    Re: Critical Inputs Forum no.1

                    It wasn't my idea to name the form of distilled language
                    some pansy word like "poetry".

                    Facts:
                    Poetry is not prose.
                    Poetry as a genre starts with verse-form.

                    The Bible is not prose. It is all in verse.
                    (I suppose everyone knows this)
                    Therefore, the entire Bible is in poetry.
                    All of man's poetry builds from the Bible's example...
                    and we all know that God wrote the bible.

                    result:


                    God is the poetmaster
                    of every earnest poetaster



                    What is the meaning of the word, verse?
                    The word is from the French (ugh.) They say it, vers
                    They use it the same way we do: for verse-form poetry.

                    But what is the literal meaning of vers? Colorful
                    people, those. It is their word for worms

                    What poetic verse does, is get ideas into our heads in relatively few words,
                    causing the ideas to domain there,
                    devouring any preexisting reason or logic that might've been to the contrary.

                    In a nutshell, in verse,



                    ----
                    For Eliot

                    Worms crawl into peoples' heads
                    not always only when they're dead

                    Last edited by Poetic Peter; 11-30-2006, 04:21 PM.

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                    • Poetic Peter
                      Christian Poet Emeritus
                      Forum Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1696

                      #11
                      Re: Critical Inputs Forum no.1

                      And that is that. Yes.

                      Christians who study the Bible,
                      but who cannot speak or write new thought (inspired by the Bible)
                      in a form in fair concord with the Bible's fine, poetical style,
                      cause their very selves to appear suspect on points of grace and veracity.
                      These Christians infract themselves.


                      He whose letters read not civil
                      Minds to others uncouth evil



                      Here,
                      I do not quote secular words.
                      I quote the Bible or I quote myself.

                      Peter

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                      • Poetic Peter
                        Christian Poet Emeritus
                        Forum Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1696

                        #12
                        Re: de-punctuated truth


                        de-punctuated truth


                        life is
                        good death
                        is nothing



                        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                        Are you one of those goth boys? I'm not getting this death stuff....
                        Hello and thank you Pastor Ezekiel. No, I sure am not a goth-liker.

                        I suppose the unsettling nature of the six words is in the juxtaposition of "good", "nothing", life;
                        particulary for the starting out, with a "life is good" expectation.

                        I suppose these are three words most close to our interests.
                        what's not good, we tend to think of as bad, or as nothing (but why?)
                        Another great fear, heard from those who are unsaved, is that death may result in "nothing".

                        I don't buy that, of course. I think death is good because for me, for you,
                        death brings everlasting life to we who are saved.

                        The six words then, for myself, are an affirmation of life and good;
                        that death is nothing to fear because death never touches a True Christian (TM)

                        As for a goth? Let his misinterpretation be a mantra for his dark side. I couldn't care.

                        For an atheist? It looks nihilistic. But that's his problem again and not mine.

                        I did not slave over the six words.
                        God wired them into my head.
                        I'm not so smart as all that.

                        Thank you Brother


                        Peter

                        ___________

                        poets: look for the most powerful words;
                        the words that excite the most basic feelings in humans.
                        evoke fear, evoke piety, with even the humble words.

                        please submit your poetry to this panel for comments
                        Last edited by Poetic Peter; 12-01-2006, 01:58 AM.

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                        • Pastor Al E Pistle
                          Christ's Cōnsiliārius
                           
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 9323

                          #13
                          I must outource to a pal of mine.

                          poets: look for the most powerful words;
                          the words that excite the most basic feelings in humans.
                          evoke fear, evoke piety, with even the humble words.
                          -PP

                          This is my kind of poetry.
                          Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
                          "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
                          Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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                          • eliot mayfield
                            God Squad
                            True Christian™
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 9324

                            #14
                            Re: Critical Inputs Forum no.1

                            Poetry and Homer go hand in hand!
                            look at this page!


                            The Homeric Hymns?

                            The oral tradition?

                            Rivendell's Homer page?

                            A guided tour of Homers Greece????


                            It makes me shudder to think of this. Homerism has no place in a church!
                            Matthew:
                            5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
                            5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
                            10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
                            10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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                            • Poetic Peter
                              Christian Poet Emeritus
                              Forum Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1696

                              #15
                              Re: Critical Inputs Forum no.1

                              Originally posted by eliot mayfield View Post
                              Poetry and Homer go hand in hand!
                              look at this page!


                              The Homeric Hymns?

                              The oral tradition?

                              Rivendell's Homer page?

                              A guided tour of Homers Greece????


                              It makes me shudder to think of this. Homerism has no place in a church!
                              I am a guy. I would like hot Sapphic verse better if I were ordering Greek food
                              for such sinful thoughts.



                              =Overheard at The Versing Greco Diner=

                              "Have a plate of Homer Noodles
                              if I may apply that nick'

                              to yourself who never puts
                              his thoughts in order one-tenth stiff

                              although I must admit your mind
                              fixates concrete as a brick"


                              Last edited by Poetic Peter; 12-01-2006, 09:57 AM.

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