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  • JennyD
    Honorary True Christian™
    Sweet Placid Sister
    Forum Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 9567

    #1

    Stimulus Package: Colleges Must Eject Christian Student Groups

    Imagine my shock at learning, via the American Family Association, that the vaunted economic stimulus package is written to require colleges to evict Christian student groups!

    The package includes substantial funds for the renovation and repair of colleges and universities. These grants can be distributed to almost any school . . . unless . . .

    As Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of the American Center for Law & Justice (the Christian version of the ACLU), explains:
    There’s a specific prohibition on two things. One, if the university itself is a religiously based or faith-based institution, it does not qualify. And if the facility that is being renovated allows religious worship to take place, it also does not qualify.
    More specifically, the legislation prohibits the following:
    . . . modernization, renovation, or repair of facilities — (i) used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school or department of divinity; or (ii) in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission.
    As you can plainly see, reader, this will force any school to evict Christian groups from their campus, or pass on much-needed renovation funds!

    Allow me to provide an example:

    Let’s say you are the facilities manager for an Ivy League “secular” school (other than Stanford, these were all started as religious schools — look it up). Your campus has a chapel from the Old Days; it’s not eligible for these funds, under part (i). Fair enough.

    You also have a student union, in which student organizations can use meeting rooms for their clubs. You want to accept funds to do some renovations, because the roof leaks, there’s mold, the carpeting is in tatters, and the wiring is aluminum . . . it has resulted in several small fires already.

    Your school’s clubs include the chess club, french club, audio/visual club, Students for a Democratic Society, Collegiates for Cthulhu, Goths for Gumby, and dozens more. One of them is a Christian Bible study group.

    Now, you’re not a religious school, so you don’t fall under part (i). But, the facility would fall under part (ii),
    in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission.
    Yes, that one group out of dozens using your student union for weekly meetings means that a “substantial portion” of the facility’s function is for a religious mission!

    Don’t believe me? Well, you don’t have to!

    Not only does Mr. Sekulow concur with this position, but Mat Staver of the Liberty Counsel agrees!
    In order to receive stimulus money our public schools will have to expel after-school Bible clubs and weekend religious meetings. People who want to speak about their faith will be unwelcome in public places.

    [It seems that President Obama's idea of "faith-based initiatives"] is to remove all faith from initiatives.
    Sekulow plans to file suit the day Obama signs the bill, unless the provision is removed.
    We’re going to look at filing an application for a stay of this provision, trying to get it declared unConstitutional through a restraining order.
    Are you as appalled by this as I am?
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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
    Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
    Christ's Rottweiler
     
    • Jan 2008
    • 22895

    #2
    Re: Stimulus Package: Colleges Must Eject Christian Student Grou

    Appalled is not the word Sister JennyD! Obama is starting to dismantle all the institutions carefully nurtured on the road to Theocracy espoused and supported by Godly President Mr G W Bush. Fairness would only come with similar provisions for any establishment preaching the false doctrines of science, or having a laboratory, or “Science Club”.

    It’s one rule for the Godly and another for the sleazy, compassless atheists!
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    Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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    • Pastor Ezekiel
      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 78556

      #3
      Re: Stimulus Package: Colleges Must Eject Christian Student Grou

      So let me get this straight--they have plenty of money for fixing up buildings that feature atheist groups, queers, foreigners, bestiality fans and other assorted God-mocking trash. But for Christians, there's no room?

      What is happening to this country? We never had these problems when George W. Bush was our President.
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • JennyD
        Honorary True Christian™
        Sweet Placid Sister
        Forum Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 9567

        #4
        Re: Stimulus Package: Colleges Must Eject Christian Student Grou

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        So let me get this straight--they have plenty of money for fixing up buildings that feature atheist groups, queers, foreigners, bestiality fans and other assorted God-mocking trash. But for Christians, there's no room?

        What is happening to this country? We never had these problems when George W. Bush was our President.
        Pastor, there's no room for fixing any building "in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission."

        According to the AFA, that means that even if you have 50 student groups for homosexuals and goths and foreigners and atheists and Emocrats, but ONE Christian group, then you're not eligible!
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        • SUV
          True Christian™ Princess
          The Driving Force behind RA12
          Have at it, anytime!
          • Sep 2006
          • 11027

          #5
          Re: Stimulus Package: Colleges Must Eject Christian Student Grou

          According to CNN, our Veterans are also unfortunately "Losers" in Stimulus cuts.

          Perhaps they had that big whinger Trent Harvey, Jr, and others like him in mind:

          Losers

          Veterans: Nearly all items for Veterans Affairs were reduced and the $2 billion the Senate wanted for VA construction was wiped out altogether. The VA did get one thing: $1 billion for medical facilities renovation and retooling.

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          • Nobar King
            Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
            Christ's Guardian
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2007
            • 23748

            #6
            Re: Stimulus Package: Colleges Must Eject Christian Student Grou

            I guarantee that none of the false religions wiil be asked to leave. Worship Chthulu? No problem. Scientologist? No problem.

            It's the Christians that these liberals hate, because they know we're right and have God on our side.
            May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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