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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
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    #1

    Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

    THIS upstanding Republican God fearing Man has made a wonderful suggestion; He wants all of the secular schools in Utah to have "In God We Trust" posted in every classroom. While we in Freehold have been following this simple rule since 1935, we applaud Brother Oak's Godly idea.

    Utah Man Wants 'In God We Trust' In All Classrooms

    SALT LAKE CITY - If Oak Norton gets his way every Utah classroom will soon display a poster bearing a simple, patriotic message: ``In God We Trust.''

    It's a sentiment Norton believes all children should feel.

    ``To me, our country's national survival depends on trusting in God,'' the Highland resident said.

    Norton's efforts are supported by other parents and even some teachers and administrators. At Highland Elementary School, where Norton's daughter attends classes, the Parent-Teacher Association president and the school principal both praised Norton's distribution of posters at the end school year.

    Norton's posters aren't welcomed by the American Atheists, however. Communications Director Dave Silverman said religion is ``most divisive thing in the universe'' and shouldn't be introduced in schools, where everyone is supposed to be welcomed and involved.

    But there might be little opponents can do to stop Norton, who also advertises the poster on a web site.

    In 2002, the Utah Legislature quietly passed a law that requires every state school building to post the national motto, which is used on U.S. currency.

    Rep. Jackie Biskupski, D-Salt Lake City, voted against the 2002 Utah law and said Norton's proposal could potentially isolate and victimize children by pointing out their differences.

    ``It's heartbreaking when you push something into a school that really will facilitate singling out students for targeting of discrimination and prejudice and very possibly bullying and physical harm,'' she said.

    Utah is among a handful of states that require or allow the posting, according to the American Family Association, a Mississippi-based nonprofit that supports traditional family values. The association began a similar poster campaign in 2001 and has distributed 400,000 posters nationwide.
    So the God hating joo demoncrat finds it "heartbreaking" to introduce the love of Jesus to sweet innocent children? I suppose its perfectly acceptable to have them be roasted alive in scalding hot sulfur for all eternity because they knew not Christ?
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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  • Brother Temperance
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    • Sep 2006
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    #2
    Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

    While I wholeheartedly support this glorious proposal, I can't help wonder if something along the lines of "In God We Trust. Also, if you anger the God who we trust in, for instance by setting yourself up as a false prophet like that unsaved scumbag Joseph Smith, He will send you to Hell to be tortured for eternity" might be more appropriate for Utah classrooms. Although that might be a bit wordy, perhaps younger children might find it a bit difficult to take it all in, so maybe Utah's kindergartens and elementary schools should just be adorned with a simple image of Satan using his spiny tallywhacker to rip Joseph Smith's torso in half, while a demon with the face of Hellary Clinton slashes a knife across his eyes?
    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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    • Kazoo
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      • Jun 2007
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      #3
      Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

      Well, as the U.S.A. has no national religion, it is going to be shot down and called a breach of the first amendment as it forces Christianity onto the students. And before anyone brings up the pledge, I shall state that it was only instituted during one of the World Wars (can't remember which) to raise nationalism and patriotism and as such can not be used as a credible analogy in comparison to this situation. (Of course, I may be dead wrong with that one... it's been a while since I studied it in any great detail)

      Of course, there is the "In God we trust" on U.S. currency, but there's also "in secular rule" imprinted on it as well... Eh, regardless, his religious campaign will likely be shot down in today's age of political correctness.

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      • Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.
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        • Sep 2006
        • 2373

        #4
        Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

        Originally posted by Kaze View Post
        Well, as the U.S.A. has no national religion, it is going to be shot down and called a breach of the first amendment as it forces Christianity onto the students.
        The U.S.A. has no national religion, and that is a shame -- our Forefathers did their best to ensure that we would never get away from the roots that they intended to set down, roots set firmly in God's Word -- the 1611 KJV. They intended that the nation would cleave to those precepts and never forget Who had protected the nation from such vile threats as disease and indians. The first amendment is nothing but a liberal talking-point. That is not to say that it doesn't have its uses (just as Fred Phelps how he feels about it), but overall it's just one of the nails in the coffin of America.

        Originally posted by Kaze View Post
        And before anyone brings up the pledge, I shall state that it was only instituted during one of the World Wars (can't remember which) to raise nationalism and patriotism and as such can not be used as a credible analogy in comparison to this situation. (Of course, I may be dead wrong with that one... it's been a while since I studied it in any great detail)
        Surely a move *towards* God is worthwhile, is it not? If it took nearly 200 years to institute this change, it is certainly a testament to the vile nature of the liberals, who fought tooth and nail to ensure that Jesus was no longer a part of our country.

        Originally posted by Kaze View Post
        Of course, there is the "In God we trust" on U.S. currency, but there's also "in secular rule" imprinted on it as well... Eh, regardless, his religious campaign will likely be shot down in today's age of political correctness.
        "In secular rule" is hardly found on US currency -- just because some hippies have been putting it on there with sharpies doesn't count.
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        • Kazoo
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          • Jun 2007
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          #5
          Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

          "In secular rule" is hardly found on US currency -- just because some hippies have been putting it on there with sharpies doesn't count.
          Originally posted by Source Watch
          The phrase New World Order is a probable mistranslation of novus ordo seclorum (which literally means "new secular order" in Latin), part of the seal of the United States. The actual phrase "New World Order" was used by George Herbert Walker Bush in the context of post-Cold-War politics. Wikipedia
          The above is located on the official Seal of the United States of America, also found on the reverse of the one dollar bill.

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          • Brother V
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            • Sep 2006
            • 3481

            #6
            Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

            Originally posted by Kaze View Post
            And before anyone brings up the pledge, I shall state that it was only instituted during one of the World Wars (can't remember which) to raise nationalism and patriotism and as such can not be used as a credible analogy in comparison to this situation. (Of course, I may be dead wrong with that one... it's been a while since I studied it in any great detail)
            And you are dead wrong.

            Explain how "under God" has anything to do with patriotism or nationalism. That is purely religious speek, and has nothing to do with either being nationalistic or patriotic.

            As for when it was added...
            Originally posted by wiki
            On Flag Day, June 14, 1954, Congress passed the legislation adding the phrase "under God" to the Pledge.
            I'm not exactly sure which "world war" we were involved in during 1954. The Korean war was from 1950-53. The Vietnam War was from 1959-1975. World War 2 was from 1939 to 1945, World War 1 was from 1914-1918.

            So it appears that the words "under God" were added during a period of relative calm in the world.

            Hmm.

            What else are you wrong about?

            YIC
            V
            Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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            • Andrew Shaw
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              • Jun 2007
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              #7
              Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

              Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
              While I wholeheartedly support this glorious proposal, I can't help wonder if something along the lines of "In God We Trust. Also, if you anger the God who we trust in, for instance by setting yourself up as a false prophet like that unsaved scumbag Joseph Smith, He will send you to Hell to be tortured for eternity" might be more appropriate for Utah classrooms. Although that might be a bit wordy, perhaps younger children might find it a bit difficult to take it all in, so maybe Utah's kindergartens and elementary schools should just be adorned with a simple image of Satan using his spiny tallywhacker to rip Joseph Smith's torso in half, while a demon with the face of Hellary Clinton slashes a knife across his eyes?
              My oh my. i agree with most of what you said only...that could scare the kids and make them violent and deraged we dont want smaller versions of you running around do we? may i ask why everything is so violent with you by the way? more than likely no. i'll just assume an abusive relationship with your parents. as i recall you said to someone once "i bet if jesus was standing infront of george bush you would strangle him to death with dick cheneys guts" i reccomend you seek psyciatric help.
              Is adult entertainment killing our kids, Or are adults killing our kids for entertainment?

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              • deadhero
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                • Jun 2007
                • 9

                #8
                Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                Originally posted by Brother V View Post

                Originally Posted by wiki
                "On Flag Day, June 14, 1954, Congress passed the legislation adding the phrase "under God" to the Pledge."


                The Korean war was from 1950-53.
                Yes, and what a brilliant addendum! Quite effective in helping us soothe the bitter sting of a loss to those ochered commie puppets! I thought 'nam would help but no dice. But not my fault. Republican's honor.
                "It is not too strong a statement to declare that this is the way civilizations begin to die. None of us has the right to suppose it cannot happen here."
                - Richard M. Nixon

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                • Kazoo
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                  • Jun 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                  Originally posted by Brother V View Post
                  And you are dead wrong.

                  Explain how "under God" has anything to do with patriotism or nationalism. That is purely religious speek, and has nothing to do with either being nationalistic or patriotic.

                  As for when it was added...


                  I'm not exactly sure which "world war" we were involved in during 1954. The Korean war was from 1950-53. The Vietnam War was from 1959-1975. World War 2 was from 1939 to 1945, World War 1 was from 1914-1918.

                  So it appears that the words "under God" were added during a period of relative calm in the world.

                  Hmm.

                  What else are you wrong about?

                  YIC
                  V
                  And you did read this, correct?
                  (Of course, I may be dead wrong with that one... it's been a while since I studied it in any great detail)
                  I was fully aware that I may well have been dead wrong with that point; I thought I recalled something about that, but wasn't entirely sure.

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                  • Brother V
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                    • Sep 2006
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                    #10
                    Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                    Originally posted by Kaze View Post
                    And you did read this, correct?


                    I was fully aware that I may well have been dead wrong with that point; I thought I recalled something about that, but wasn't entirely sure.
                    Yes, I read that.

                    You'd be surprised how many people base their decisions on wrong information. (Which is why it's always important to check your facts).

                    We here at Landover get accused of making stuff up all the time. People tell us "the bible doesn't say that" or "MY bible doesn't say that" when they only think that the verses that we quote aren't in the Bible (KJV1611).

                    Many people are basing their SALVATION on things they THINK they know. Instead of the FACTS as laid out by the Bible (KJV1611).

                    Are you one of those people?

                    If so, we can help.

                    YIC
                    V
                    Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                    • Bobby-Joe
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 18405

                      #11
                      Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                      The thing I want to know about is why Rep. Jackie Biskupski was stripped of her citizenship and halled off to GIMOT with the other terrorists. "In God we trust" shouldn't be optional in the classroom, it should be manditory. Our grandfathers didn't fight in WWII for Islamo-commie athiests to be able to mock America!

                      Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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                      • Andrew Shaw
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                        Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                        Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                        The thing I want to know about is why Rep. Jackie Biskupski was stripped of her citizenship and halled off to GIMOT with the other terrorists. "In God we trust" shouldn't be optional in the classroom, it should be manditory. Our grandfathers didn't fight in WWII for Islamo-commie athiests to be able to mock America!
                        Acctually it should be - America was founded on freedom to religeon you do know that many of the first immigrants to America were escapeing their country so that they could be free to worship whatever it is they beleive in.
                        Is adult entertainment killing our kids, Or are adults killing our kids for entertainment?

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                        • H. Montague Worthington
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                          PRAISE!!

                          This is indeed a heartwarming story, Pastor Ezekiel!!

                          GLORY!!

                          And as you pointed out, Freehold schools have all had the "In God We Trust" motto in each classroom since 1935, a fact about which we can be very proud.

                          Incidently, a visit to the Freehold Historical Society will inform you about Freehold's many other firsts:

                          1906 First community west of the Mississippi to ban Italians from owning property inside the city limits.
                          1920 First Uncle Remus Root Beer produced in Freehold. Once the #6 soft drink company in the nation, the company went bankrupt in 1936.
                          1939 J. Edgar Hoover honored at Freehold Minstrel Days celebration and delivers speech believed to be the first use of the phrase "Better dead than red."
                          1941 First community to participate in the Japanese internment program when Frank Yamata, a 20-year old divinity student from Seattle, was run out of town on a rail.
                          1951 First Tailgunner Joe Club formed at Freehold High School.
                          1953 First community in the nation to make pie theft a felony.
                          1955 First community in Iowa to ban Elvis Presley records.
                          1957 First location of national Bibles N Things retail chain.
                          1963 Bull Connor honored by city council with Key to the City.
                          1967 Opening of the first Wal-Mart in the state of Iowa.
                          1980 First town with more than 10,000 people to vote unanimously for a presidential candidate when Ronald Reagan received all 14,206 votes cast. This incredible feat was repeated in 1984 and 2004.
                          1988 First Dan Quayle Fan Club founded at Freehold High School.
                          1997 Freehold named "Most Religious Town" by Religion Monthy magazine.

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                          • Andrew Shaw
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                            #14
                            Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                            Originally posted by H. Montague Worthington View Post
                            PRAISE!!

                            This is indeed a heartwarming story, Pastor Ezekiel!!

                            GLORY!!

                            And as you pointed out, Freehold schools have all had the "In God We Trust" motto in each classroom since 1935, a fact about which we can be very proud.

                            Incidently, a visit to the Freehold Historical Society will inform you about Freehold's many other firsts:

                            1906 First community west of the Mississippi to ban Italians from owning property inside the city limits.
                            1920 First Uncle Remus Root Beer produced in Freehold. Once the #6 soft drink company in the nation, the company went bankrupt in 1936.
                            1939 J. Edgar Hoover honored at Freehold Minstrel Days celebration and delivers speech believed to be the first use of the phrase "Better dead than red."
                            1941 First community to participate in the Japanese internment program when Frank Yamata, a 20-year old divinity student from Seattle, was run out of town on a rail.
                            1951 First Tailgunner Joe Club formed at Freehold High School.
                            1953 First community in the nation to make pie theft a felony.
                            1955 First community in Iowa to ban Elvis Presley records.
                            1957 First location of national Bibles N Things retail chain.
                            1963 Bull Connor honored by city council with Key to the City.
                            1967 Opening of the first Wal-Mart in the state of Iowa.
                            1980 First town with more than 10,000 people to vote unanimously for a presidential candidate when Ronald Reagan received all 14,206 votes cast. This incredible feat was repeated in 1984 and 2004.
                            1988 First Dan Quayle Fan Club founded at Freehold High School.
                            1997 Freehold named "Most Religious Town" by Religion Monthy magazine.

                            Sounds like a..really really really messed up town, who bans elvis presley!?
                            And what religeon is the town?
                            Is adult entertainment killing our kids, Or are adults killing our kids for entertainment?

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                            • Bobby-Joe
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                              #15
                              Re: Godly "In God We Trust" Opposed by Whiners

                              Originally posted by Andrew Shaw View Post
                              Acctually it should be - America was founded on freedom to religeon you do know that many of the first immigrants to America were escapeing their country so that they could be free to worship whatever it is they beleive in.
                              Did we say otherwise friend; here in America everyone has the freedom to worship Jesus. That's why Christ set us free of the British.

                              Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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