[Lisa H]

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When you say I know nothing about any religion you are very wrong.

The belief that "all worship the same god" is a popular one, and then it should not really matter if you are christian or muslim.

I admit to making a wrong assumption regarding Lisa's personal beliefs. Still, her reasoning made no sense whatsoever. If I tell you I have a schampoo bottle in my back yard that sits on bedrock and is 100 miles high, do you need to acknowledge it's existence before saying you do not believe it?

Of course my logic makes sense. How could it otherwise.

As for your example of a gigantic schampoo bottle that would just be total nonsense as you have no proof that it exists. To say such a schampoo bottle exists would be a lie.

[Phebe Carlyle]

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When you say I know nothing about any religion you are very wrong.

The belief that "all worship the same god" is a popular one, and then it should not really matter if you are christian or muslim.

Actually, by the above comments you've made, you have pretty much proven you are clueless as to religion.

JESUS is God. He is the I AM. Jesus is THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. Jesus is Christ; hence Christianity. Islam does not recognize Jesus as being God in human form. They choose to ignore the prophesy as to Jesus in the Old Testament Books of Isaiah and Daniel (to name a few), but only abide by a few OT books, and muslims cast the New Testament aside as nothing special.

THAT is where the issue is; just as Christians also have issue with jews for not admitting that Jesus IS Christ. Due to this, jews, muslims and also mormons (just to name a few) will burn in hell.

I admit to making a wrong assumption regarding Lisa's personal beliefs. Still, her reasoning made no sense whatsoever. If I tell you I have a schampoo bottle in my back yard that sits on bedrock and is 100 miles high, do you need to acknowledge it's existence before saying you do not believe it?

Her logic does make sense, unlike your fallicious example. So much for you being a sensible atheist.

I also note that you completely ignored Sister Believer's and my replies to your points earlier. I am not surprised. Atheists usually run when comments are put forth to actually make them think about God.

I can pretty much guarantee, the only thing keeping you from wanting to know Jesus is your own fear. Fear of what you may have to give up in your very short time on earth.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[BelieverInGod]

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If you have become so enlightened, why don't you consider turning your life over to Jesus and working towards becoming a True Christian(TM)?

Jesus is knocking friend, all you have to do is answer the door.

[A common man]

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How do you know of my enlightenment? As I sit here in tears as I behold the true beauty of His Creation, as it finally appears to me, how can you know?


This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.......................

[BelieverInGod]

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How do you know of my enlightenment? As I sit here in tears as I behold the true beauty of His Creation, as it finally appears to me, how can you know?


This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.......................

It is so beautiful when an atheist's eyes are open to the beauty of True Christianity(TM). Jesus tells us of all things.

I pray that you will pick up a KJV Bible, and contact one of the pastors about getting on the path to True Christianity(TM)

[A common man]

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Humans are not designed to stand up and defy the lord, when on my knees, I see the creation in a humbling light, and it fills my eyes with tears and my body with his divine spirit. Pray for me, brother, as it may very well be too much for me.


Where do I find a pastor?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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All the things you mention add to the sense of morality of course, just like with all people, christians also. 400 years ago christians would presume witches were everywhere and would burn them alive if even a small child had said "she is a witch"

Friend, we are today surrounded by self-proclaimed witches. Unfortunately, we can no longer burn them alive (or stone them, as the Bible commands).

Slavery disappeared from the western world not too long ago and is heavily supported in the bible, yet people today cannot imagine having slaves in chains working the fields. Changes in laws does contribute to the overall change in zeitgeist, though not overnight but over the course of a few decades.

Looking at the united states, they chose to no longer keep slaves, that is one example of how the normal evolution of people's values improve, and the bible was not rewritten. This was common sense at play.

The Bible didn't have to be rewritten. There is no commandment to keep slaves. Something being permitted is not the same as it being required.

For example, under current law, it is permitted for homosexuals to engage in revolting and unnatural sodomitious relations. Under the laws Obama and Pelosi want to inflict upon us, such behavior will be required of normal men and women! Bobby-Joe tells me there will be a special section in the Landover 2010 Hell House to show this horror, and has asked me to help him and the cast rehearse on my next visit to Freehold.

The duty to my fellow man, that you call it, is probably in part a genetically programmed urge,

You think DNA programs complex behaviors, yet refuse to acknowledge God?

As for the argument that they would be christian values, only with the removed mentioning of any God, that does not hold up considering the fact that all people in the world apparently function in society. The Chinese (most of them) have no Christian history, yet they function perfectly well, even though their government do a fair amount of killing and crimes against humanity.

But they do (or did) have religion, even if it was unintentional demon-worship.

For example, corporal punishment in the home and in schools was outlawed where I live in 1979, making it the first country to declare that it is wrong to strike a child, even your own. Back then people thought the law was completely pointless, since police would not be able to peek into every single home. Today, people in general cannot imagine striking a child and most European countries, along with most US states have also banned the practice. Although the bible tells you how to use violence against your child you would not do it, would you?

Yes, yes I would. That is a big part of why today's youth run wild, having sex and doing drugs and joining gangs and murdering people. Lack of discipline, and no concept of consequences for their actions.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Humans are not designed to stand up and defy the lord, when on my knees, I see the creation in a humbling light, and it fills my eyes with tears and my body with his divine spirit. Pray for me, brother, as it may very well be too much for me.


Where do I find a pastor?

Someone called?

[Jo Freddie]

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Of course my logic makes sense. How could it otherwise.

As for your example of a gigantic schampoo bottle that would just be total nonsense as you have no proof that it exists. To say such a schampoo bottle exists would be a lie.

But to say the God you believe in exists is also a lie.

You logic is most defiantly floored I deny the existence of a tree on the end of your nose, I have not said there is a tree on the end of your nose, just that I deny its existence so I have told no lie.
But by your logic as shown here:

If atheists deny God exists, then they must acknowledge God exists to be able to deny Him.

Must I first acknowledge the existence of a tree on the end of your nose before I can deny it?

Now I will agree that this "common man" is mistaken in his belief that there is no God, for Our Lord Noodle is very real.

[Lisa H]

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But to say the God you believe in exists is also a lie.

You logic is most defiantly floored I deny the existence of a tree on the end of your nose, I have not said there is a tree on the end of your nose, just that I deny its existence so I have told no lie.
But by your logic as shown here:

Must I first acknowledge the existence of a tree on the end of your nose before I can deny it?

Now I will agree that this "common man" is mistaken in his belief that there is no God, for Our Lord Noodle is very real.

My logic is never wrong. I have proven this to you countless times. There are things that are true, and things that are lies. Only you could come up with something as totally illogical as someone having a tree at the end of their nose.

[Jo Freddie]

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My logic is never wrong. I have proven this to you countless times. There are things that are true, and things that are lies. Only you could come up with something as totally illogical as someone having a tree at the end of their nose.

So you also deny the tree?

[Wide-Open]

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Muslims kneel towards Mekka 6 times a day simply because it is normal for them

I guess them would be salat bar mooselimbs, right?.

Friend, they worship their moon god 5 times a day (which is bad enough as it is), not 6. Is the rest of your information as accurate as this?