[DorkHawk]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

So, if a man forcefully rapes a woman who has done nothing to provoke him, it is still entirely her fault?

[silverspirit2001]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

So, if a man forcefully rapes a woman who has done nothing to provoke him, it is still entirely her fault?

NO - though just being a women is enough to provoke a man.

Also remember, their are different laws for the city and countryside.

"23If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; 24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you."

Deuteronomy 22:23-24
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29

[Levi Jones]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

So, if a man forcefully rapes a woman who has done nothing to provoke him, it is still entirely her fault?

Not always, if she is married they both should die.

Deuteronomy 22:22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

If she is betrothed and raped where no one could hear her scream, only the man will die.

Deuteronomy 22:25-27 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.

If she is not betrothed, the man has to compensate her father and marry her.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

If she is betrothed and raped where no one could hear her scream, only the man will die.

Deuteronomy 22:25-27 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.

A woman should fight for her virtue. I've always wondered who these sick people are who tell a woman to just cooperate and let the "rapist" do what he wants. Uh, isn't cooperation consent? I would rather die then let someone try and force me, and I can tell you that if someone did try and rape me and I survived, he'd be easily recognizable from the fight wounds.

I also think those wounds would be proof of my doing my best to fight him off.

[vickyrowlands]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

out of interust, what do you think about kids who get raped? - say a four year old girl was raped by her daddy. - does that make her a whore?

[Levi Jones]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

out of interust, what do you think about kids who get raped? - say a four year old girl was raped by her daddy. - does that make her a whore?

Why would a four year old get raped? Where were her parents?

[vickyrowlands]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

Why would a four year old get raped? Where were her parents?

firstly, if you'd understood my post propperly, you would have seen that said child was raped by her dad...
and second, that didn't answer my question, - would you consider it to be her fault, and do you believe she would go to hell because of it?

[Levi Jones]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

firstly, if you'd understood my post propperly, you would have seen that said child was raped by her dad...
and second, that didn't answer my question, - would you consider it to be her fault, and do you believe she would go to hell because of it?

Oh, sorry. I didn't catch that.

Of course not if the father was the rapist. He would be solely at fault.

Leviticus 18:6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.

[vickyrowlands]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

Oh, sorry. I didn't catch that.

Of course not if the father was the rapist. He would be solely at fault.

what if she was raped by another man, who wasn't related to her?
- sorry about all the questions on, what is a fairly grim topic, but i'm curiouse

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

what if she was raped by another man, who wasn't related to her?
- sorry about all the questions on, what is a fairly grim topic, but i'm curiouse

It depends on if it happens in a city or a field and the girl cries out or not.

"If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you." Deuteronomy 22:23-24

If it happens in a city and the girl didn't bother to cry out then of course she is at fault.

"But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her." Deuteronomy 22:25-27

It's not entirely clear if its the girl's fault if it happens in a field and she cries out, but we do know that she isn't guilty of any "sin worthy of death".

She should still play it safe and not choose to get raped though.

[Levi Jones]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

what if she was raped by another man, who wasn't related to her?
- sorry about all the questions on, what is a fairly grim topic, but i'm curiouse

I would ask, where the parents were that they allowed her to get raped.

[Bible Student]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

A woman should fight for her virtue. I've always wondered who these sick people are who tell a woman to just cooperate and let the "rapist" do what he wants. Uh, isn't cooperation consent? I would rather die then let someone try and force me, and I can tell you that if someone did try and rape me and I survived, he'd be easily recognizable from the fight wounds.

I also think those wounds would be proof of my doing my best to fight him off.

I once knew a woman who said "if rape is inevitable, you might just as well lie back and enjoy it."

I couldn't run away from that Jezebel quickly enough. I might have caught something just being within 1000 yards of her.

I Kings 21:23 -- And of Jezebel also spake the Lord, saying, The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel.

[sometimes]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

When I was 14 I was brutally attacked while walking home from school by two men who 19, and 24.
I never met them, and I wasn't showing any skin.
I can't see how I could possibly be 'asking for it'
I thank Jesus that I didn't end up pregnant but just because two men could take down me at the time at the age of 14, it doesn't make me a harlot, or anything of a sort correct?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

When I was 14 I was brutally attacked while walking home from school by two men who 19, and 24.

Only sluts who want to be raped walk home alone. And why didn't your parents home school you? Constant and intensive home schooling by parents or other close relatives is a perfect way to prevent rape.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

When I was 14 I was brutally attacked while walking home from school by two men who 19, and 24.
I never met them, and I wasn't showing any skin.
I can't see how I could possibly be 'asking for it'
I thank Jesus that I didn't end up pregnant but just because two men could take down me at the time at the age of 14, it doesn't make me a harlot, or anything of a sort correct?

Well you shouldn't have been walking alone, why didn't your mother home school you?

Look as a woman I realize that the liebral scum out there will rape anything. After all, animals commit rape and since they're nothing but "monkeys" why shouldn't they? God obviously gave you an out by you not getting pregnant (you didn't have an abortion did you ). But if you had Good Christian parents who didn't let their 14 year old daughter walk home alone, then you wouldn't have been raped, would you?

Perhaps the ordeal is part of why you're searching for God now, sometimes horrible things have to happen to us for us to realize what God wants from us.