[Hawk]

Re: Confused?

Yes, many people who come here ARE confused. You seem a bit confused too, but I will try to help you.

We don't threaten and we don't lie about the Bible. If you think the bible isn't God's word, you haven't read it. If you DO think it is God's word, you are not living it and you are spitting in JESUS' face. GOD isn't who YOU want Him to be. GOD "IS" Who He is and He doesn't need a can of spinach or a toke on a 'joint' to make him powerful. It's your job to be who GOD wants you to be or face the consequences for eternity. It's not up to us to make you.

You can call us a parody or a joke, and a lot of people do. And they call Pastor Fred Phelps one because he says right up front that God hates fags. But he's wrong. God doesn't hate fags. GOD hates that they go against nature and GOD proclaims that they must be put to death. God also says that disobedient children and women who 'play the whore' should be put to death.
Let me be clear. We don't sell anything here and we never asked you for any money. We teach the Bible by what it says, not by what we would like it to say. We have been online for ten years, 24/7/365 and this is GOD'S truth. Our Pastors are ORDAINED pastors. We aren't a bunch of hooligans. We all have advanced degrees and we can all write clearly and knowledgeably. We don't bother deleting posts that make crazy accusations, because a righteous man will know the difference.

For instance...do you think the way atheists might run a parody or a joke website is to learn the Bible by heart and then become ordained....and then start a website AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE to teach the Bible to people? Doesn't that seem a little backward? Atheists and qweers who are doomed to HELL wouldn't waste their time and money QUOTING SCRIPTURE AND TEACHING THE BIBLE! Do you think hundreds of people maintain and serve JESUS through us from all over the world as a joke? Do you think fifteen pastors watch over thirty+ pastors-in training who are required to come here and to listen to abuse from illiterate fools day and night for a minimum of a year to learn patience AS A JOKE? Ten years and over a million dollars is not all that funny.

If this were a joke, the joke would be on US for using TEN YEARS of our time and money converting sinners to Christ! What would be the point of that, Hawk? What would be the joke? Do you think dealing with people like you day and night is funny somehow? It isn't. It's hell on earth, Rob. We willingly go through hell on earth so not everyone will have to spend eternity there.

Sure, I can read what the wiki says and every time we correct it the atheists go change it again. We can't stop them. SATAN gets dominion over the earth in the End Times. You believe what you want. GOD granted you freedom of choice. If you want to believe the atheists over the Bible, go ahead. I suppose you think we have wasted all of our lives just in case maybe one day your dumb ass might fall in here accidentally?

Do you think JESUS is some hippie who is going to return to plant apple seeds? He will return to start Armageddon and we shall be His army.

Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Matt 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Matt 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Mark 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Insofar as you demanding respect, you do not deserve it.

Proverbs 28:21
"To have respect of persons is not good."

You wanted to know why we are GOD's anointed. Simple. We follow His rules.

In Matthew 5:34-37 Jesus forbids the taking of any kind of oath. Yet Christians in courtrooms throughout the United States place their right hand on the Bible swear to tell the truth. WE DON'T!

In Matthew 19:18 Jesus lists the "ten commandments," but his list has only six, and the sixth is not one of the ten. The commandments given by Jesus are secular, not religious, in nature. WE KNOW WHY!

People argue with us and insist that goths are just like everyone else, but WE KNOW BETTER! In 2 Kings 19:35 An "angel of the Lord" kills 185,000 men while they sleep. "And when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses." And that's where goths come from and why they are obsessed with SATAN and death.

Oh, but then you wanted PROOF! Well, there is an invisible verse in the Book of Numbers. Many people have read it yet they have not actually seen it at all. You would never see it yourself unless we revealed it to you. I am going to do that now.

Numbers 12:16 applied only twice. The first time to Moses. Since 1611 it has applied exclusively to us. "If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will ... speak unto him in a dream." That is how we could predict Obama's election in 2006. A YEAR before he ran for the office. But we did and we can prove it. That is why we know the fate of the world before it happens. That is why the title of TRUE CHRISTIAN™ is given exclusively unto us.

Well then if I am not respected, you sure do not earn my respect!
You try to tell me you are ordained and well educated in the Bible..... I beg to differ! If you are a real Christian or a PASTOR you would know that there are 10 commandments and not only 6 in the New Testament, what a straight out lie! Let me show you oh ordained one!

ONE: Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, (1)Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.


TWO: 1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols.
THREE: 1 Timothy 6:1 ... that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
FOUR: Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day

Mark 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Hebrews 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh [day] on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.
FIVE: Matthew 19:19 Honor thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
SIX: Romans 13:9 Thou shalt not kill
SEVEN: Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not commit adultery.
EIGHT: Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not steal.
NINE: Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not bear false witness.
TEN: Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law

How do you love your neighbour if you struggle to have respect for people and seem to be racist. If your neighbour is black you are commanded by the Law of God to love him!

The other point you are stuck on is about making a joke about the website, can you show me in any of my posts that I said this site is a joke? Do not lay words in my mouth which have I have never uttered!

I am getting less confused by your help, I really appreciate it,

Thx and have a wonderful day!

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Confused?

Well then if I am not respected, you sure do not earn my respect!
You try to tell me you are ordained and well educated in the Bible..... I beg to differ! If you are a real Christian or a PASTOR you would know that there are 10 commandments and not only 6 in the New Testament, what a straight out lie! Let me show you oh ordained one!

READ WHAT I SAID!

I DID NOT SAY THERE ARE TEN COMMANDMENTS!

I SAID WE KNOW WHY JESUS LISTED ONLY SIX IN MATTHEW 19:18!

IS THAT NOT WHAT I SAID?

Shall I write it in Dutch, you dumb Swede?

This is SCRIPTURE! To deny it is to call JESUS a liar, NOT US!

In Matthew 19:18 Jesus lists the "ten commandments," but his list has only six, and the sixth is not one of the ten. The commandments given by Jesus are secular, not religious, in nature. WE KNOW WHY!

[Hawk]

Re: Confused?

READ WHAT I SAID!

I DID NOT SAY THERE ARE TEN COMMANDMENTS!

I SAID WE KNOW WHY JESUS LISTED ONLY SIX IN MATTHEW 19:18!

IS THAT NOT WHAT I SAID?

Shall I write it in Dutch, you dumb Swede?

This is SCRIPTURE! To deny it is to call JESUS a liar, NOT US!

In Matthew 19:18 Jesus lists the "ten commandments," but his list has only six, and the sixth is not one of the ten. The commandments given by Jesus are secular, not religious, in nature. WE KNOW WHY!

Your point is ??????? You know something that is not in the Bible? Then it cannot be the Truth according to your own principles!

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Confused?

Your point is ??????? You know something that is not in the Bible? Then it cannot be the Truth according to your own principles!

My point is that (1) you just called me a liar for quoting Scripture. I am not. I accurately quoted Scripture. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking, and (2) I never said that I knew anything that is not in the Bible. You imagined that as well.

You are rapidly losing any small semblance of credibility you may have ever had.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Confused?

Your point is ??????? You know something that is not in the Bible? Then it cannot be the Truth according to your own principles!

Friend,

Pastor Al never said that. Pastor Al said he understands why Jesus said that. Something, as to be expected from a socialist, you do not understand. Now these personal attacks against our kind hearted pastor really necessary? Of course we forgive you, since we understand you are just foolish Euro-trash, but let's put childish name calling aside friend.

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: Confused?

Of course we forgive you, since we understand you are just foolish Euro-trash, but let's put childish name calling aside friend.

Actually he is not good enough to be Euro-trash. He and his kind were singlehandedly responsible for the nigra getting power in Pretoria.

[Hawk]

Re: Confused?

Friend,

Pastor Al never said that. Pastor Al said he understands why Jesus said that. Something, as to be expected from a socialist, you do not understand. Now these personal attacks against our kind hearted pastor really necessary? Of course we forgive you, since we understand you are just foolish Euro-trash, but let's put childish name calling aside friend.

Your kind hearted pastor told me that he has no respect for me, for no specific reason. He tells me that Jesus quotes the ten Commandments but only names six? and he knows why???? what does that mean?

The 10 Commandments is God's law and we will be judge accordingly, if we not accept Jesus Christ our only Savior we are lost! So whatever he knows does not make any difference to me, so I do not really care!
You can forgive me like I had forgiven many of you of judging me falsely without giving you infractions , because you are not informed who I really am!
I go by the Bible and no Church is going to tell something else. If I want to I can write pastor in front of my name too and make up nice stories of how educated and anointed I am, but I do not. I look at the fruit you bare to see if you are true Christians and if you do not know the fruit of the Holy Spirit I shall inform you now:(Galatians 5:22)

• Love
• Joy
• Peace
• Longsuffering
• Kindness
• Goodness
• Faithfulness
• Gentleness
• Self-control

Now you tell me does your pastors show all these fruit in their characters? Giving infractions for the most ridiculous reasons, making racist remarks, supporting their members when they want to give physical harm to their wives? What kind of example are they showing their kids? That violence is ok??

So what happened to KINDNESS, GOODNESS and GENTLENESS to name a few? There are more hate in these posts than the fruit of the Holy Spirit!
I am not saying that you must now accept sin like the gay lifestyle, but more to accept the person and talk to him with kindness, goodness and gentleness, not to start calling him names. You are really trying to take the Bible and now think you can judge people accordingly, but how can you judge if you are a sinners as well? Only a perfect Holy being like God can judge, we can only discern and help others to show there sins by using ourselves as an example!

These are all reason why Landover Baptist Church are seen in a negative view by many and on wiki! I do not know if this will open your eyes a bit, because you have functioned in this manner for 10 years now according to your pastor.
If you are true Christians you will have to look at your lives and see if you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, by looking at the fruits you bare! and if you do follow the ten Commandments, God's Law, in your life!

All the best!

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Confused?

Your kind hearted pastor told me that he has no respect for me, for no specific reason. He tells me that Jesus quotes the ten Commandment but only names six? and he knows why???? what does that mean?

It means I have studied the Bible and you haven't.

The 10 Commandments is God's law and we will be judge accordingly, if we not accept Jesus Christ our only Savior we are lost! So whatever he knows does not make any difference to me, so I do not really care!
You can forgive me like I had forgiven many of you of judging me falsely, because you are not informed who I really am!

Who are you....SATAN?

I go by the Bible and no Church is going to tell something else.

Exodus 32:27
Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side ... and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.

Numbers 15:35
And the Lord said unto Moses, The man [who was found picking up sticks on the sabbath] shall be surely put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones.

1 Samuel 15:2-3
Thus saith the Lord of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare him not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


If I want to I can write pastor in front of my name too and make up nice stories of how educated and anointed I am, but I do not. I look at the fruit you bare to see if you are true Christians and if you do not know the fruit of the Holy Spirit I shall inform you now:(Galatians 5:22)

• Love
• Joy
• Peace
• Longsuffering
• Kindness
• Goodness
• Faithfulness
• Gentleness
• Self-control

Now you tell me does your pastors show all these fruit in their character? Giving infractions for the most ridiculous reasons, making racist remarks, supporting their members when they want to give physical harm to their wives? What kind of example are they showing their kids? That violence is ok??

Read a bit further.

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you?--Gal.3:1

Yes. Not only is violence OK, it is EXPECTED, ORDAINED and COMMANDED BY GOD! Of the 31101 verses in the Bible, less than 200 do not involve death, punishment or GOD's WRATH!

So what happened to KINDNESS, GOODNESS and GENTLENESS?

WHY is JESUS returning? The last Book of the Bible is Revelation. Would you show me in it where all this love and kindness is?

[Hawk]

Re: Confused?

WHY is JESUS returning? The last Book of the Bible is Revelation. Would you show me in it where all this love and kindness is?

Are you still trying to support your violence? You are not God or Jesus for that matter, so act accordingly please! We are in the new Covenant and Jesus Christ is the Son of God, show me where he used violence when He dwelled this earth!!
If you are a Christian you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, otherwise you must change your name!
Jesus CHRIST our Lord is our example to live our lives by, not your twisted view.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Confused?

Are you still trying to support your violence? You are not God or Jesus for that matter, so act accordingly please! We are in the new Covenant and Jesus Christ is the Son of God, show me where he used violence when He dwelled this earth!!

I keep doing exactly that and you refuse to see it. I can go through the entire New Testament, but I will only give you a few examples.

Matthew
11:20-24
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell.

13:41-42, 50
Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

24:50-51
God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

25:41
Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire."

25:46
Jesus says the damned will be tormented forever.

Mark
4:11-12
Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell.

7:9-10
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law.

Luke
12:46-47
Jesus says that God is like a slave-owner who beats his slaves "with many stripes."

19:22-27
In the parable of the talents, Jesus says that God takes what is not rightly his, and reaps what he didn't sow. The parable ends with the words: "bring them [those who preferred not to be ruled by him] hither, and slay them before me."

Revelations
1:18
Jesus has "the keys of hell and death."

2:23
"I [Jesus] will kill her children with death."


If you are a Christian you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, otherwise you must change your name!

If you refuse to follow the Bible, you will burn for eternity!

Jesus CHRIST our Lord is our example to live our lives by, not your twisted view.

MY VIEW! I AM QUOTING SCRIPTURE LITERALLY! GOD SAID THIS, NOT ME!!!!

Very well. Let me rephrase what I just said so you can understand it. Revelation. Part of the so-called NEW COVENANT. THE LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE. READ IT. It proclaims death by violence when JESUS returns to start ARMAGEDDON. It's in your Bible too. READ IT! It's pretty clear, Kaffir!

[Hawk]

Re: Confused?

MY VIEW! I AM QUOTING SCRIPTURE LITERALLY! GOD SAID THIS, NOT ME!!!!

Very well. Let me rephrase what I just said so you can understand it. Revelation. Part of the so-called NEW COVENANT. THE LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE. READ IT. It proclaims death by violence when JESUS returns to start ARMAGEDDON. It's in your Bible too. READ IT! It's pretty clear, Kaffir!

Again, did you read my question? When did Jesus use physical harm(hitting people) when he DWELLED the EARTH!! I only know of one time and that is when people were doing business in the Church, but if you can show me any other scriptures to support your violence you so much love, it will be "kind".

You are quoting what will happen when we die and when Jesus returns for the second time, yes, we will be exposed to the wrath of God if we do not have Jesus to Save us, I KNOW!
But calling a white person a kaffir does not say much about yourself, again the negative fruit you bare! You no true Christian! Try and get self-control, please!
Romans 12:17-21



17Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
The Vegeance is the Lord's not any man! You must follow Jesus!




Matthew 5:38-42


38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Matthew 5:3-12
* The blessed are those who are poor in spirit, those who mourn, those who are gentle, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness (= right relatedness with God and others), those who are merciful, those who are pure in heart, those who are peacemakers and those who are persecuted.






Matthew 5:43-46
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and do good for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?”

Matthew 26:50-53
“Jesus said to him, ‘Friend, do what you are here to do.’ Then they came and laid hands on Jesus and arrested Him. Suddenly, one of those with Jesus put his hand on his sword, drew it, and struck the slave of the high priest, cutting off his ear. Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Do you think I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels?”

Luke 3:14
“And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, ‘Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.’”

And so we can go on and on and on! Violence is not the answer!

[Billy Ram]

Re: Confused?

Hawk, you asked when did Jesus ever hit anyone. When He cleaned out the Temple I'm sure our Lord planted a sandal in a few rear ends. Also the Gospel of John 21: 25 says Jesus did many things not written of. Surely John is insinuating Jesus was in the habit of slapping His disciples around.

[Hawk]

Re: Confused?

Hawk, this should answer all your questions.

Landover Baptist

Hi Nate,

I got this info from your link:
-The believe that attire is one of the most important things of Christianity!!
-And all authority is granted to Fred Smith (Pope?)
-Then they want to punish with you with fines! Like the Roman Catholic do!
As far as I know it is not scriptural and places a big question mark on this ministry.

-The other weird thing is that I could not find a city in Iowa called Freehold or Landover?? Is it fake?

The Old Covenant seem to be preferred in this Church although we are in the new Covenant with Jesus and should focus more on Jesus Christ our Redeemer!

2 Corinthians 5:17
If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!

Christianly Attire:
Click Here For an Invaluable True Christian™ Resource on Proper Womenly Attire
We believe that when a person first gets saved, the first thing they should do is buy a suit and a tie. If the individual is a female, then a dress not raised over an inch above the knee is acceptable. Clothing is perhaps the most important thing about being a Christian. If one is not properly clothed and fully representative of what God would want them to appear like... well then, that person is probably not saved. Our motto is "get saved, get to a Christian Clothing store, and get fitted for the kingdom." A man should dress and act like a man, and a woman should dress and act like a submissive female helpmate. That about sums it up. Anyone who does not conform to the dress code at Landover Baptist will be fined no less than $300.00 a violation. It is a privilege to be a Christian and we believe that it is about time folks started acting like it!
Who is In Charge Here?:
We will go into further detail here by stating that all authority is granted to Pastor Deacon Fred Smith. This is in full accordance with Romans 13. If you are not familiar with Romans 13, well then we suggest you read it. A good ten or twelve readings of Leviticus wouldn't hurt either. Our pastor sometimes uses his godly authority to invoke the Lord's Law from the Bible in Leviticus. This is sometimes too much for some folks. If they refuse punishment, then they have the option of paying a $500.00 fine plus expenses accrued by the planning committee of Levitical Law Implementation. If you haven't cracked a Bible in a few years.. then Landover is not for you.


If you do not follow and respect the Church, you get an infraction joke! At the end of the day it does not seem if God's Law is first priority in this church, they still prefer the Levitical Law written by men not by God Himself.

"PASTORAL AUTHORITY" DOES NOT EXIST IN THE BIBLE, BUT COMES TO US FROM TRADITION. THE PRIEST OF THE ROMAN CHURCH, IS THE PASTOR OF THE PROTESTANT CHURCH. NEITHER EXISTS IN THE NEW COVENANT BIBLE, BUT ARE BASED ON THE TYPOLOGY OF THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD OF THE OLD COVENANT. HEBREWS CHAPTER 7 DOES AWAY WITH THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD AND THE NEW COVENANT CLEARLY GIVES A PRIESTHOOD TO EVERY BELIEVER (ACTS 1:6--5:10, 1PETER 2:5,9). PASTORAL AUTHORITY OPERATES THE NEW COVENANT CHURCH BY THE WORDS OF A PARABLE AND IGNORES NEW COVENANT MINISTRY AND OPERATION.

The Truth will set you free in the name of Jesus Christ! Amen!

[Hawk]

Re: Confused?

Hawk, you asked when did Jesus ever hit anyone. When He cleaned out the Temple I'm sure our Lord planted a sandal in a few rear ends. Also the Gospel of John 21: 25 says Jesus did many things not written of. Surely John is insinuating Jesus was in the habit of slapping His disciples around.

I did mention that I know of that incident, I asked if you know of any other times? It does make sense to me that he got upset, the Church is a place of worshiping God not Mammon!
Your insinuation is very far fetched, do you believe the disciples are going to follow Him if He slaps them around? If you do, I really need something more than just an insinuation!!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Confused?

Luke 12:4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.--Luke 19:27