[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

And England once held over 40% of the world under its empire. The only reason it was lost was because, like all Empires it has a time limit. And once that time expired, the Empire was lost. It happened to the Greeks, Romans, French, Germans, Russia, Japan, Scotland, South Afria ect. It happens to all evenutally.

Sorry, it was because England exceeded it's gay limit and everyone turned to pansies. Now it is about to exceed it's Muslim limit and the Ragheads will take over from the pansies, and all the other sub-cultures, the Toffs, Poofers, whose meatballs who wear tan plaid, and the Goths. Then the French will invade as they have always wanted to do and the national language will become French. Everything else will stay pretty much the same except people will stop taking baths.

[Homertard]

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Sorry, but where the **** in the bible does it say America is the choosen country? By the way: You arn't allowed to edit the bible.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Sorry, but where the **** in the bible does it say America is the choosen country? By the way: You arn't allowed to edit the bible.

The United States of America is the richest and most powerful country in the history of mankind. Clearly this can not have happened without the Help of God(r), who ordains all things. We are simply rejoicing in the works of our Lord like a good Christian should Homertard.

[roserougesang]

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The United States of America is the richest and most powerful country in the history of mankind. Clearly this can not have happened without the Help of God(r), who ordains all things. We are simply rejoicing in the works of our Lord like a good Christian should Homertard.

I guess you are aware that your King James Bible is actually British, not American?


Also, throughout this topic you have not given a single valid reason to dislike goths.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I guess you are aware that your King James Bible is actually British, not American?

Was British. Christ’s favor has moved to America so now the King James Bible is now American.

Also, throughout this topic you have not given a single valid reason to dislike goths.

Rose, we do not dislike or hate Goths. We TRUE Christians just want to help the Goths avoid hell. If a Goth repents of their depravity and accepts Jesus as their savior for the correct tithe we TRUE Christians would welcome an ex-Goth into our fellowship.

Remember all us TRUE Christians were sinners once, I myself voted Democratic at lest three times in my life. However I have repented of those sins and Jesus has forgiven me. Next to that, what is being a Goth?

I am sure Rose that if you embrace Jesus’ love we could find a proper man to marry. Then you could be in a nice Christian home taking care of your 15+ kids and be as happy as Sister Marie.

[Unsaved and Loving It]

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Was British. Christ’s favor has moved to America so now the King James Bible is now American.

Woo, lordie. Anyway, suppose your claim of Jesus favouring America is a valid claim, then wouldn't he, ya know. Being master of all things in the Universe... Oh, I dunno... Make an even more accurate Bible that was made in America?

For you see, as long as you read the KJV1611, you read words translated by British.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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Woo, lordie. Anyway, suppose your claim of Jesus favouring America is a valid claim, then wouldn't he, ya know. Being master of all things in the Universe... Oh, I dunno... Make an even more accurate Bible that was made in America?

For you see, as long as you read the KJV1611, you read words translated by British.

The literal word of God, divinely inspired, was written as nearly as the semi-literate scribes, undoubtedly the ancestors of people who eventually settled in Harris County, Texas, could understand it.

God is represented correctly in that tome and, even as language evolves from the Druidic mumblings of the English into something marginally understandable, His Word is as correct and exact today as it was in 1611.

We believe that Jesus will return within the next couple of years to unleash Armageddon and make every river run with blood, just as He promised to do. But if he changes His mind and decides to wait another few years, it is quite possible that GOD will dictate another Sacred Bible to Pastor Deacon Fred or, if he is on vacation, to me, Pastor Al.

So do not worry about the Word of God. We will make sure that those tithers and worthies who are destined for Heaven will be completely and correctly informed at all times.

[Brother Temperance]

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Woo, lordie. Anyway, suppose your claim of Jesus favouring America is a valid claim, then wouldn't he, ya know. Being master of all things in the Universe... Oh, I dunno... Make an even more accurate Bible that was made in America?

How could anything be more perfect than the complete and perfect word of God, you insufferable dunce?

For you see, as long as you read the KJV1611, you read words translated by British.

By proto-Americans, friend.

[Sister Noddy]

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The literal word of God, divinely inspired, was written as nearly as the semi-literate scribes, undoubtedly the ancestors of people who eventually settled in Harris County, Texas, could understand it.

God is represented correctly in that tome and, even as language evolves from the Druidic mumblings of the English into something marginally understandable, His Word is as correct and exact today as it was in 1611.

It's called Elizabethan English, and it's beautiful, and it's perfect.

[ArashiInu]

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1-Frequently wears black clothing.
What is wrong with the color black? Its a beautiful color when mixed with white and bright blue.

2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
Whats wrong with rock? There are some amazing christian rock bands out there.

3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
I don't wear make up, but I love nail polish. Bright Blue!

4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols.
I wear some random jewelry but nothing that could ever be considered satanic. Just random. I used to wear a key that I got at church camp.

5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
They can be pretty in moderation. I want a tiny tattoo eventually.

6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
I don't like Marilyn Manson. But what do you consider anti-social music

7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.
Eccentric. That very vague. Almost anyone could be considered an eccentric in someway. Even you.

8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports.
How are sports wholesome? I don't see anything wholesome about running around and tackeling people to the ground. I don't like sports. I never will. I think I will stick with music and language.

9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
I like Harry Potter and other FICTIONAL stories. It does not mean I go around acting on these stories and trying to perform magic. That is just plain stupid. Their good stories nothing more.

10-Takes drugs.
I take Tylenol for headaches. I will never have or do illegal drugs ever.

11-Drinks alcohol.
Nope. Irs nasty. So goths drink alcohol. Are saying that you have never touched alcohol in your life? Because if you do or have drank it then your a goth.

12-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
That doesn't make you goth. For some people its a medical condition they have no control over, other people are under a lot of stress and are dealing witha lot of negative things in their life.

13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.)
Many normal people today do not cut them selves as a satanic ritual. For most people its a way to distract them selves form other physical or emotional pain that the world has thrown at them. Cutting ones self is not a good thing, but it doesn't always mean the person is in any way satanic.

14-Complains of boredom.
Have you tried sitting through a high school class recently? I can not think of one teenager ever (or any person for that matter) that has never been bored. I find cleaning very boring.

15-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
I get little sleep, but that is because I stay up all night studying and doing school work. Is that a bad thing. I want to do good in school so that I can get into a good college.

16-Is excessively awake during the night.
I am awake at night because like I already said I'm doing school work.

17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
I love sunlight. It can be so pretty. Especially at sunrise. Although I do not like it when the sun makes the temperature over a hundred degrees.

18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
I like to do things by myself. Reading, doing crafts, playing my french horn,listening to music. I need time away for people and a extremely busy life. I might crack under the pressure of school if I didn't have time to myself.

19-Spends large amounts of time alone.
When I'm at home I do. MY father works and I usually have something I need to do. Such as studying, reading my bible, playing french horn. Also prayer. Who wants to pray when surrounded by a bunch of noisy people?

20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)
umm...no. I just get tired of being around people. I don't meditate.

21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult.
Again, what teenager wants to be followed around by their parents? None. (Atleast no one that I have ever heard of) I go places with my friends all the time. We go shopping, eat food, sit around and talk, go to youth group at my church.

22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this.
Nope. I usually do what I am asked to do. Whether or not I like it. Unless it is cleaning my bedroom, which I eventually do.

23-Misbehaves at school.
Nope. Never even had detenition. Ever.

24-Misbehaves at home.
Not big things. I have never done anything like sneaking out of the house. Now i have done little things like getting online when I should be cleaning. But what teenager doesn't do things like that?

25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this.
Thats not a goth related food. Not even close. Its just a cereal. Theres nothing evil about it. They give cereals unique themes and names so that children will eat them. They're fun not evil. You tell me a story about a child turning satanic from eating creal and maybe I'll listen to you.

26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.)
eww. Drinking blood. Nasty. Not something that I will ever do.

27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)
Whats wrong with cable television? There are some very educational shows on cable television. Animal Planet, Discovery Channel. There are also channels that have shows that children enjoy and aren't corrupted such as Disney channel. Don't forget the christian channels. ohh, and NBC shows Veggie Tales on saturday mornings.

28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature.
I can see your point on violence, but it doesn't make a chid gothic. And whats wrong with role playing? It's fun as long as the person can tell the difference between a game and reality. I don't play many video games. I play Dance Dance Revolution. A great way to get excerise.

29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.
I am online all the time. I talk to friends online all the time for events like church camp who live out of town and I don't get to see often. I also do a lot of research and studying. I also get online bible studies and devotionals.

30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
No statnic symbols for me, but I do 'shake' my head to goo music.

31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
Nope. I dont dance like that. At school dances. I avoid the giant hump circle and talk to my friends.

32-Expresses an interest in sex.
Not something I'm interested in, and I wont be until after I'm married. And I probably wont even think about marriage until about ten years from now. After college.

33-Masturbates.
Never have.

34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
I'm perfectly straight.

35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
No. I am a christian, I'm not perfect but I love Jesus and I try my hardest. I want to be a scientice (More specifically a veternarian.) but it does not interfer with my faith or change my beliefs on creationism.

36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
I don't think anyone (even goths) wear pins or anything, with phrases like that on them. Those are very stupid and cheesy phrases.

37-Claims to be a goth.
Nope. I would be considered complete opposite of goth.

All in all. I dont think these signs of a goth are very good. Most of them could apply to any normal teenager. Even christians such as myself. Because I've accecpted Jesus as my savior doesn't mean I'm perfect.

[Sista Lateefah]

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All in all. I dont think these signs of a goth are very good. Most of them could apply to any normal teenager. Even Christians such as myself. Because I've accecpted Jesus as my savior doesn't mean I'm perfect.

The first warnin' sign had went up fo' me when I saw thatchoo hadn't capitalized Christ. That be blasphemy. But another warnin' sign, and the most tellin' thang of all, be thatchoo had said thatchoo ain't perfect AFTER you had claimed thatchoo accepted Christ as yo Savior. Not only didchoo conterdict yoself there, you had also denied the Truth of the Bible:

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. - 1 John 3:6-9

It say right there as plain as day, that True Christians™ does not sin, therefo'e, we is perfect. We's perfect from the very second that we be washeded in His blood. The Lord tell us that there be false Jesuses (Matthew 24:24), and that be whatchoo worships. Whatchoo worship be a demon, and if you doesn't repent and come to Him, then you is headed straight ta HELL!

[Brother Temperance]

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1-Frequently wears black clothing.
What is wrong with the color black? Its a beautiful color when mixed with white and bright blue.

Black when mixed with white is called grey. It's not usually considered that beautiful, but each to their own, I suppose.

2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
Whats wrong with rock? There are some amazing christian rock bands out there.

Read this. All of it.

5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
They can be pretty in moderation. I want a tiny tattoo eventually.

Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
I don't like Marilyn Manson. But what do you consider anti-social music

You know. That pickaninny radical folk death'n'roll stuff.

8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports.
How are sports wholesome? I don't see anything wholesome about running around and tackeling people to the ground. I don't like sports. I never will. I think I will stick with music and language.

It's good training for when you grow up and need to battle against Muslims and other terrorists, such as hippies.

9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
I like Harry Potter and other FICTIONAL stories. It does not mean I go around acting on these stories and trying to perform magic. That is just plain stupid. Their good stories nothing more.

Read this. All of it. I'd advise you to buy the DVD as well.

11-Drinks alcohol.
Nope. Irs nasty. So goths drink alcohol. Are saying that you have never touched alcohol in your life? Because if you do or have drank it then your a goth.

Friend, having a few litres of Polackistani anger juice for thy stomach's sake every night isn't the same thing as being a drunken goth. Understood?

12-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
That doesn't make you goth. For some people its a medical condition they have no control over, other people are under a lot of stress and are dealing witha lot of negative things in their life.

Yes. We call these negative things demons, and when you turn your life over to Jesus, He will deal with them for you.

13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.)
Many normal people today do not cut them selves as a satanic ritual.

Really? Hold the front page!

14-Complains of boredom.
Have you tried sitting through a high school class recently? I can not think of one teenager ever (or any person for that matter) that has never been bored. I find cleaning very boring.

Are you one of these radical anti-God Marxist feminists?

15-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
I get little sleep, but that is because I stay up all night studying and doing school work. Is that a bad thing. I want to do good in school so that I can get into a good college.

What sort of school work? Biology? Other secularist anti-God dogma?

18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
I like to do things by myself. Reading, doing crafts, playing my french horn,listening to music.

Friend, if you ever want to become a Christian, that French horn has GOT to go.

25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this.
Thats not a goth related food. Not even close. Its just a cereal. Theres nothing evil about it. They give cereals unique themes and names so that children will eat them. They're fun not evil. You tell me a story about a child turning satanic from eating creal and maybe I'll listen to you.

Alright: Once upon there was a little boy who loved to gobble Quaker Oats every morning. This boy's name was Al Gore. End of story.

30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
No statnic symbols for me, but I do 'shake' my head to goo music.

What's Goo music? Is that what the Goo Goo Murderdolls play? Please don't say you're into that lesbian voodoo jungle bunny Goo-Goo Muck stuff.

31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
Nope. I dont dance like that. At school dances. I avoid the giant hump circle and talk to my friends.

They have teacher-supervised giant humping circles in seculiar schools now? My word, it's worse than I thought.

All in all. I dont think these signs of a goth are very good. Most of them could apply to any normal teenager. Even christians such as myself. Because I've accecpted Jesus as my savior doesn't mean I'm perfect.

As Sister Lateefah has already pointed out, how can you be imperfect if Jesus is running your life? Are you saying Jesus makes mistakes?

[Ashesofthesacredflame]

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What if my child is not doing all the make-up, EMO crap, but he's saying that God is nothing but an adult's imaginary friend?

[Wash O'Hanley]

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Then he is, if I may speak bluntly, stupid.

[Ashesofthesacredflame]

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Then he is, if I may speak bluntly, stupid.

That would explain a few things...