[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=airtight

I'm usually one who's all "let them do what they want" but really?

Brother Didymus,

We all know that you usually love this type of thing, but your statement here says otherwise.

I feel that now, at last, Jesus is starting to enter you.

God Bless and, hopefully, welcome to the fold.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

...like you disembowel a goat and tie off its legs (where the hooves used to be) and stick pipes in it and blow it up with air and there are probably one or two other details necessary to make the thing airtight...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=airtight

I'm usually one who's all "let them do what they want" but really?

[Attila's Wife]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Those are Romanian bagpipes, Sister Mitza. Probably some sort of vampire ritual.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

There is no such thing as Goth Rock. Satan is as good as it gets, even if bagpipes or hurdy-gurdies are added to the line up as is the case with your Morgernsterns or your Corvus Coraxes or there is even goat bagpipes like you disembowel a goat and tie off its legs (where the hooves used to be) and stick pipes in it and blow it up with air and there are probably one or two other details necessary to make the thing airtight and this is music?

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You're the one on a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN FORUM getting angry at us for our beliefs. Nobody invited you - it even says 'unsaved not welcome'



WARNING TO TRUE CHRISTIANS™ DO NOT CLICK WITHOUT CONSULTING A SENIOR PASTOR.

http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/imgdetail/250608050913_cradle_of_filth_t-shirt455.jpg

Here is an extreme goth band t-shirt. Take your satanism somewhere else!

This has totally traumatised me. I am going to my prayer cupboard now to pray that I never have to see anything so depraved and perverted again.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

"Goths drink urine"

or "All Goths drink blood"

or "All Goths are murderers"

....

Thank you for admitting that. The Truth(c) is the first step toward Salvation(r).

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Pointing out the truth is not "spreading satanic filth."

Your opinion is NOT based on the word of your god. As I said earlier, did he whisper in your ear that Goths drink blood? drink urine? molest children? murder people? that the kids at Columbine were Goth even though they didn't listen to Goth music? That Goths are all on drugs? Does the bible say that all Goths are fat? have pimples? etc.,?
.

Friend,

If you feel we are wrong, just provide proof that Goths aren't obese, Satanic baby murders hell bent on destroying themselves along with the world. Is that to much to ask?

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

No, this is about you CHOOSING to come on to a PRIVATE, Christian forum and spreading your satanic filth everywhere. You are wasting bandwidth, and I'm sure that a senior pastor will be issuing you with a bill soon for it.

Also, how can our opinions be wrong, when we base them on the WORD OF GOD? I don't understand.

Pointing out the truth is not "spreading satanic filth."

Your opinion is NOT based on the word of your god. As I said earlier, did he whisper in your ear that Goths drink blood? drink urine? molest children? murder people? that the kids at Columbine were Goth even though they didn't listen to Goth music? That Goths are all on drugs? Does the bible say that all Goths are fat? have pimples? etc.,?

The answer to these questions is no. He did not. Nor does it say these things anywhere in the bible.

Also, it's technically your opinion that the bible/Christianity is the true religion. But that's an opinion no one should argue, as it's your religion. But the bible does NOT say those things about Goths.

[ChristMySavior]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Your own comparison says all that needs to be said.

Not ALL do.

I respect your religious beliefs. I do not respect your PERSONAL non-religious beliefs in stereotypes, which is what "All Goths do _____" is. No do I need to respect your PERSONAL beliefs, especially since I know your OPINION is wrong.

But this isn't just about you having an opinion either. It's about you pushing your opinion on people as the truth and telling them to stay away from the Goth scene/physically attack Goths based on your opinion.

No, this is about you CHOOSING to come on to a PRIVATE, Christian forum and spreading your satanic filth everywhere. You are wasting bandwidth, and I'm sure that a senior pastor will be issuing you with a bill soon for it.

Also, how can our opinions be wrong, when we base them on the WORD OF GOD? I don't understand.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. We all know you Goths do these things. There's no use denying it.

The Lord does not tell people not to drive while drunk but we all know they do.

Your own comparison says all that needs to be said.

Not ALL do.

I respect your religious beliefs. I do not respect your PERSONAL non-religious beliefs in stereotypes, which is what "All Goths do _____" is. No do I need to respect your PERSONAL beliefs, especially since I know your OPINION is wrong.

But this isn't just about you having an opinion either. It's about you pushing your opinion on people as the truth and telling them to stay away from the Goth scene/physically attack Goths based on your opinion.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

There is no passage in the bible saying "Goths are on drugs."

Or

"Goths drink urine"

or "All Goths drink blood"

or "All Goths are murderers"

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. We all know you Goths do these things. There's no use denying it.

The Lord does not tell people not to drive while drunk but we all know they do.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You're the one on a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN FORUM getting angry at us for our beliefs. Nobody invited you - it even says 'unsaved not welcome'



WARNING TO TRUE CHRISTIANS™ DO NOT CLICK WITHOUT CONSULTING A SENIOR PASTOR.

http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/imgdetail/250608050913_cradle_of_filth_t-shirt455.jpg

Here is an extreme goth band t-shirt. Take your satanism somewhere else!

It's your beliefs I'm angry at, and you know it.

I don't care if you believe Goths are pertaining as pertaining to certain passages in the bible.

There is no passage in the bible saying "Goths are on drugs."

Or

"Goths drink urine"

or "All Goths drink blood"

or "All Goths are murderers"

Also, Cradle of Filth are an Extreme Symphonic Metal band. They are not Goth Rock.

"If we could all escape the Fires of the Pit of Damnation by simply not believing, do you think that Christianity would have lasted so long?"

Again, why would someone who does not believe those things worry about them? You can say it all you want. You can believe I'm going to hell all you want. It doesn't bother me.

Also, you do realize most Pagan religions pre-date Christianity? Muslims has lasted rather long as well.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

nor do I believe in Satan, so why would this bother me?

If we could all escape the Fires of the Pit of Damnation by simply not believing, do you think that Christianity would have lasted so long?

[ChristMySavior]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

It's unimportant (to me) whether or not you consider all Rock music to be Satanic. I'm not Christian, nor do I believe in Satan, so why would this bother me?

You're the one on a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN FORUM getting angry at us for our beliefs. Nobody invited you - it even says 'unsaved not welcome'

If you want to show that Goths are extreme in your opinion, based on what they wear, then find a Goth band shirt you feel would be extreme. It doesn't help to draw your point home if you are using the wrong thing to represent us.

WARNING TO TRUE CHRISTIANS™ DO NOT CLICK WITHOUT CONSULTING A SENIOR PASTOR.

http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/imgdetail/250608050913_cradle_of_filth_t-shirt455.jpg

Here is an extreme goth band t-shirt. Take your satanism somewhere else!

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Having done what you would call 'my research' I'm afraid that I will have to rebuke you here. If we take what you say to be true (it probably isn't) then you have still stabbed yourself in the back with your own argument. The band Cannibal Corpse is a heavy metal rock band. You claim that goths are a fan of goth rock. BOTH OF THESE MUSIC GENRES ARE ROCK MUSIC, THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, IN THE SAME WAY THAT EGGPLANT AND CUCUMBER ARE BOTH VEGETABLES, AND BOTH USED FOR ANAL SEX.

In addition to this, as we know that rock music is satanic (Thank you, Pastor Zeke) we can deduce that goths are damned to hell, so, thank you for persecuting us (Matthew 5:10) and please don't break the door on your way out. THIS IS NOT A DEBATE FORUM.

What I say is true. If you had researched it, and knew how to tell when sources are reliable, you would know this. And no, both genres of music are not exactly the same. Heavy Metal and Goth Rock are two different subgenres of Rock, with very different sounds. Anyone with ears can hear there is a big difference between the sound of Bauhaus or Siouxsie and the Banshees and Cannibal Corpse or Morbid Angel. A Goth is a fan of Goth Rock, a Metalhead is a fan of Heavy Metal. And while you can be a fan of both, no Goth would run around advertising Cannibal Corpse as a Goth.

It's unimportant (to me) whether or not you consider all Rock music to be Satanic. I'm not Christian, nor do I believe in Satan, so why would this bother me? The fact is, all Rock music does not have the same sound. And the world has specific terms to describe fans of different subgenres of Rock, Electronica, etc., for a reason. That reason being, they are not the same things. I'm not sure about the exact percentage, but I'd guess (from what I've seen) at least 50% of Goths actually hate all forms of Heavy Metal. Usually, the Goths would like Metal at all, are fans of Symphonic Metal, Doom Metal, or Gothic Metal, and not Death Metal like Cannibal Corpse. And none of them would call any Metal band or Metal band t-shirt Goth Rock.

If you want to show that Goths are extreme in your opinion, based on what they wear, then find a Goth band shirt you feel would be extreme. It doesn't help to draw your point home if you are using the wrong thing to represent us.

Out of curiosity, are Christian Rock and Metal bands who sing about Jesus and how you should follow the bible satanic as well?