[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

As I've said before, you don't know for sure what god would want. The bible was written by people, not god himself. Until god comes down and tells everyone exactly what he says we should think, you, nor anyone else in the entire world, will know for sure what "god's word" is.

God's word is the Holy Bible, He (God) says so Himself, but you suggest that we should rather trust YOU?

If Jesus actually was real, he's dead now. Therefore, I don't really give a care about what he likes.

No, Jesus is God (and thus cannot die) and even His human form was ressurected..
Have you never even read the Bible?

Thank you for the kind words, Mollychu! Yes, I know these people won't listen to me. I never suspected that they would. They are hopelessly lost in their closed-minds. Rather sad, really.

So not listening to little you makes us close minded?
How tolerant.. and how logical.. of you.

You're the close minded one for not even caring about what we (or GOD!) says.
You've already decided that you think Christianity is wrong, so stop being such a hypocrite.

Actually, I never said that god is a racist, because I don't believe there is a god or gods. However, I did say that the majority of people here are racist. You are not an extension, you are the source.

Why are you so close minded?
And we only follow what God commands us to do, so if you call us racists, you call God's commandments racist.

I am of the opinion that god doesn't exist, but if he did, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't share the racist and bigoted thoughts that you people do.

Ah yeah, God wouldn't agree with us because YOU don't huh?
That's rich, take your big ego elsewhere, boy.

Homosexuality is how you're born, not a choice.

You may be partly right.
The wicked are estranged from the womb:
They go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Psalm 58:3

But any man who sleeps with a man, and any woman who does so with a woman will STILL go to hell!
Praise God!

No, god has never told you or anyone else on the planet anything. Please look under Quote 1, thank you.

And just how would little you know?
Why are you so egocentric and vain?
And why are you so close-minded?

You don't know how Jesus would want you to live your life. See Quote 1.

See my above reply.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Out of all the comments people have directed toward me, this is the one I find the most offending. I am accepting of all ideas, races, genders, sexual orientations, and religions. Yes, even thought I dislike your religion immensely, I still respect your right to believe it. Sir, do not call me narrow-minded. If you want to find someone narrow-minded, take a look at some of the regulars on this forum.

Go pound sand with your hypocritical outrage sinner; I have no time for the hurt feelings of some jerk who is so arrogant that he refuses to accept we TRUE Christians believe that The Bible is The Holy Word of God Himself, PRAISE, instead demands we accept his assertion that all The Bible is some ancient joke book, best suited for toilet paper or bird cage liner. Gee friend, maybe if were so open minded as you think you might just consider how offensive your assertion is to us.

It is as simple as this; if you are a Christian you have to believe God is perfect, all knowing and all powerful. That God is active and present in this world and The Bible is His message to His creation. To say The Bible has been altered by man is to deny the existence of the Christian God. There is no way any good Christian could accept anything you have said so far friend.

And BTW Jesus rose from the dead and still lives sinner! GLORY!

[I Am Who I Am]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

It is as simple as this; if you are a Christian you have to believe God is perfect, all knowing and all powerful. That God is active and present in this world and The Bible is His message to His creation. To say The Bible has been altered by man is to deny the existence of the Christian God. There is no way any good Christian could accept anything you have said so far friend.

You do have a point. I acknowledge that by becoming a Christian that you pretty much have to follow the bible exactly. I only wish that instead of following the bible blindly, you'd take some time to think for yourself and contemplate that their may be other possibilities, instead of just going along with your Christian bretheren and not giving it a second thought.

To answer the question of what I believe in, I consider myself agnostic. I have Christian and Catholic grandparents, so I've been to their churches. I've learned about other religions from my parents (also agnostics), and I have found agnosticism makes the most sense for me, so that's what I believe in.

And it's true, you people did not drag me here. I came here of my own free will to state my opinion, and I did. It's clear that you don't want me here (and I didn't really plan on staying), so I shall bid you adieau. Thank you for your time, and good night.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I only wish that instead of following the bible blindly, you'd take some time to think for yourself

Does every single sinner that comes here and says the exact same thing actually think they're being original, and if only someone says this to us, we'll turn our backs on God?
I've said it before, and I know I will say it again, but apparently "thinking for ourselves" means spitting in the face of all we hold dear and believing what these PC nincompoops want us to believe.

Hmmm. I have an idea for a new resource thread.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

You do have a point. I acknowledge that by becoming a Christian that you pretty much have to follow the bible exactly. I only wish that instead of following the bible blindly, you'd take some time to think for yourself and contemplate that their may be other possibilities, instead of just going along with your Christian bretheren and not giving it a second thought.

Loosely translated:

I don't respect your religion at all, though I give lip service to tolerance. I really wish that you would spit in God's face and follow my path of non-belief straight to Hell, rather than having your own beliefs and being true to God's Word.

Sorry, fella. You won't be winning any True Christian souls from Jesus today.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I would like to say that they are, without question, despicable, disgraceful, and disgusting.

Many of the threads here are bigoted, racist, shameful, and not to mention idiotic. After reading some of these posts, I have found that the vast majority of you people here are white-supremesist, sexist, homophobic (meaning that you fear gay people. I don't really expect many people here to be smart enough to know what that means), and closed-minded.

The reason that I'm posting in this specific thread is that I have found it to be the most incredibly moronic and retched. The list you have at the beginning of this thread is, in itself, irreversibly stupid. Then, you said such despicable things as "Goths worship Satan" and "Goths eat babies". You may be wondering why I'm posting this if I'm not a goth, and it's because I know that the things you've said in this thread and many others are disgusting and wrong.

No, ladies and gentlemen, it is you who are scum of the earth.

This thread seems to be a perfect example of some of the bigoted lunacy I have seen on this forum.

It made me too sick to my stomach seeing that there are actually people out there that are this cruel and horrible. Ladies and gentlemen, this is inexcusable and sickening.

It saddens me that you are so far gone in your bigoted idiocy of a religion that you can't even so much as listen to a different school of thought.

I honestly can't believe that there are people as heartless and unforgivably horrific as you here at this forum. When I first came to this webpage and looked around, do you know what I thought? I thought "Surely, this must be some sort of joke parody site. There's no way that there can really be people that are this unbelieveably stupid and bigoted!" But, lo and behold, there really are. You people truly are unbelieveably stupid, and you have made me lose even more faith in the human race. I sincerely hope that you people never reproduce, you unforgiveably racist, wife-bashing monsters.

I leave you here at Landover Baptist forums with this thought: It is in your best interest to hope that your religion is a lie, because if it's not, and their really is a Hell, you will all be going there for your despicable bigotry, racism, and overall bad humanitarianism. I will check back here to see what sort of thoughts you have about what I have said.

Yours most sincerely,

I Am Who I Am.

But i still must give you credit for being mature about this, instead of spitting rude insults to these people.

Did you actually read what the crazed goth wrote? I've highlighted a few of the most obvious examples of his anti-Christian hatespeech. Or perhaps you don't think that calling people "scum of the earth" or "unforgiveably racist, wife-bashing monsters" counts as being rude or insulting.

By the way, I would like to inform Mr. Yam that I do not in any way believe in the "supremisy" of the white race, and that I'm not scared of faggots, I just hate them. Also, I'm very curious as to whether this thread is actually so moronic it made him retch, as he claims.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

You do have a point. I acknowledge that by becoming a Christian that you pretty much have to follow the bible exactly. I only wish that instead of following the bible blindly, you'd take some time to think for yourself and contemplate that their may be other possibilities, instead of just going along with your Christian bretheren and not giving it a second thought.

Friend,

What part of I, "as a TRUE Christian, believe God is all knowing and perfect" don't you understand?? How can I as a limited, fallible human being, claim to know better than God and still call myself a good Christian? Again, to do that is to deny my faith.

To answer the question of what I believe in, I consider myself agnostic. I have Christian and Catholic grandparents, so I've been to their churches. I've learned about other religions from my parents (also agnostics), and I have found agnosticism makes the most sense for me, so that's what I believe in.

Well friend that is your choice. While I am as sure I as I know the fires of hell exist that you have chosen your damnation but God give you that. But the fact that you have chosen to reject Christ, to spit into His face as He suffers for you on the cross, doesn’t give you the right to demand I do the same.

And it's true, you people did not drag me here. I came here of my own free will to state my opinion, and I did. It's clear that you don't want me here (and I didn't really plan on staying), so I shall bid you adieau. Thank you for your time, and good night.

Oh no Friend, we want you here. That is why we have a public forum so we can save as many as the unsaved scum of the earth like you from hell as possible. We TRUE Christians love people as Jesus commands, no matter how vile and disgusting they are. So we do what is need to help them to salvation. So you will either have to deal with us now or after the Christian Revolution in’08 takes over America. Trust me it will go better for you if you come to Jesus now friend.

[Lone Wolf (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Hello, members of this forum. As you've probably guessed, I am new here, and I have taken it upon myself to read a sizeable amount of the threads on this forum. After doing so, I would like to say that they are, without question, despicable, disgraceful, and disgusting.

Many of the threads here are bigoted, racist, shameful, and not to mention idiotic. After reading some of these posts, I have found that the vast majority of you people here are white-supremesist, sexist, homophobic (meaning that you fear gay people. I don't really expect many people here to be smart enough to know what that means), and closed-minded.

The reason that I'm posting in this specific thread is that I have found it to be the most incredibly moronic and retched. The list you have at the beginning of this thread is, in itself, irreversibly stupid. Many of the things on said list are things that the majority of people do, not just goths. I wouldn't be suprised if some of the pastors here have done many of these things. Then, you said such despicable things as "Goths worship Satan" and "Goths eat babies". I know several goth people, I highly doubt that any of them worship Satan, and I know for a fact that none of them have ever eaten a baby.

Now, I'm already fairly certain what you're thinking, and it's something along the lines of "This person must be another demonic Goth, come to protect his Gothic cohorts". Ladies and gentlemen, I can say with absolute certainty that I am not a Goth. I wear bright colors, I am white but my skin isn't too pale, I haven't died my hair black, I don't wear any nail polish or studded jewlery, I am in no way a Goth. You may be wondering why I'm posting this if I'm not a goth, and it's because I know that the things you've said in this thread and many others are disgusting and wrong.

You seem to be under the impression that white people are superior to black people, or people of any race that isn't caucasian. You seem to think that men are higher-ranking than women. You seem to think that gay people are advocates of Satan and scum of the earth.

No, ladies and gentlemen, it is you who are scum of the earth.

Blacks are equal to whites, men are equal to women, straight people are equal to homosexuals, and for what ever reason, you people don't seem to realize this. This thread seems to be a perfect example of some of the bigoted lunacy I have seen on this forum.

In this thread, you reject goth people just because they are different that you, you claim that non-white people are a lesser people, you heartlessly bash homosexuals, and you have even supported raping women, claiming that women who do not want to be raped are "feminazis".

I tried to read all of this thread, but I couldn't get through it. It made me too sick to my stomach seeing that there are actually people out there that are this cruel and horrible. Then, when someone comes along who has ideas that are even slightly different that yours, you immediately call them "demon" or "homer", and then say that they will "burn in Hell", just because they think differently than you. Ladies and gentlemen, this is inexcusable and sickening.

It saddens me that you are so far gone in your bigoted idiocy of a religion that you can't even so much as listen to a different school of thought. What probably disgusts me the most is that you try to justify your racism and bigotry by saying that it's "in the bible", and therefore it's "what god wants". The bible was not written by god, it was written by people who were inspired by the idea of god. You have absolutely no way of knowing that it's "what god wants". Yet you go along anyway, claiming that white, Republican racists are the "True Christians", and that anyone else is a spawn of satan.

I honestly can't believe that there are people as heartless and unforgivably horrific as you here at this forum. When I first came to this webpage and looked around, do you know what I thought? I thought "Surely, this must be some sort of joke parody site. There's no way that there can really be people that are this unbelieveably stupid and bigoted!" But, lo and behold, there really are. You people truly are unbelieveably stupid, and you have made me lose even more faith in the human race. I sincerely hope that you people never reproduce, you unforgiveably racist, wife-bashing monsters.

Now, I have come across a few posts in this thread that have a similar message as mine, but are written in a way that uses poor grammar, foul insults, and poor writing. Ladies and gentlemen, that's why I have written this post the way I have. By doing so, I hope that instead of immediately disregarding my thoughts and calling me a hellspawn, you will at least give my post some consideration. If this message gets through to at least one of you people here, and makes you realize that there are problems with the way you are living your life, my time here will have been worthwhile. The truly sad thing is, you people are so far gone in your so-called "religion", I really can't see that happening.

I leave you here at Landover Baptist forums with this thought: It is in your best interest to hope that your religion is a lie, because if it's not, and their really is a Hell, you will all be going there for your despicable bigotry, racism, and overall bad humanitarianism. I will check back here to see what sort of thoughts you have about what I have said.

Yours most sincerely,

I Am Who I Am.

Moderator Note: This post was originally three paragraphs (one monolithic mass, and the final two, unedited paragraphs). The only editing done has been to insert paragraph breaks to assist readers in avoiding migraine headaches when attempting to read this mishmash of ideas. - OYK

Dude, you are the exact person my life needs I thank you for coming to this site and knocking some sence into these people. It pains me that I can't say something I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY Want to say But I just can't. Please give me your telephone number so I can get in touch with you, PLEASE! I will explain everything in my heart but I doubt you will ever see this post as it says on my Name I am under strict moderation. (Please Moderators show this post! I will only spread my love to this good man only, he even mentions my dream in his post! He must know it! come on!)

[the dud]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

[quote=Brother Temperance;1710]If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!


2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. That's normal these days
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. Is it wrong that they like this kind of music?
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
11-Drinks alcohol.Everyone drinks alcohol
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult. In Belgium everyone does it
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
LOL
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature. Almost everyone plays gta and world of warcraft
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.Your point being?
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
Those people are metalheads not gothic

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene
immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it.
If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental
health center(little bit extreme?)[/quote]

Little bit extrememe, don't you think?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

[quote=the dude;39048]

If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!


2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. That's normal these days
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. Is it wrong that they like this kind of music?
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
11-Drinks alcohol.Everyone drinks alcohol
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult. In Belgium everyone does it
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
LOL
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature. Almost everyone plays gta and world of warcraft
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.Your point being?
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
Those people are metalheads not gothic

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene
immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it.
If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental
health center(little bit extreme?)[/quote]

Little bit extrememe, don't you think?

Friend, Jesus is extreme. Would you rather we act all lukewarm?

[mister A.H. (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I can understand that you're against goths, but the things you say aren't things goths do.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I can understand that you're against goths, but the things you say aren't things goths do.

Prove it.

[mister A.H. (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I know some goths and I realy don't like them (I do respect their idees). I never want to be one, but I do some of the things on that list.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Dude, you are the exact person my life needs I thank you for coming to this site and knocking some sence into these people. It pains me that I can't say something I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY Want to say But I just can't. Please give me your telephone number so I can get in touch with you, PLEASE! I will explain everything in my heart but I doubt you will ever see this post as it says on my Name I am under strict moderation. (Please Moderators show this post! I will only spread my love to this good man only, he even mentions my dream in his post! He must know it! come on!)

THIS ISN'T A SODOMITE DATING SERVICE, FIONA! Instead of begging some stranger to come over and put his throbbing thingy up your Satan hole, you should be down on your knees for another reason! BEG JESUS TO FORGIVE YOUR ABOMINATIONS AND TO HELP YOU OUT OF YOUR DISGUSTING LIFESTYLE!

I can understand that you're against goths, but the things you say aren't things goths do.

I think we'd know better than you.

[the dud]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Is it possible that everyone who says they are bad have "gothicophobia" or something?