Help me!

[ChristLover70]

I need some advice. I found my son eating his cereal with his finger across his spoon in a most unholy and demonic way. He had his finger in a position which closely resembled a crucifix... but it was INVERTED. My son has created WORK OF THE DEVIL without realizing it. (I hope.) The Devil is channeling through his veins and I refuse to house a spawn of Satan. This is a holy residence and my son MUST be turned back to the side of God!!!! My husband and I have thought about killing him to remove this demon from his body. It states killing is against THE WORD OF GOD, but we would be doing so in the name of God to prevent Lucifer's evil from infecting our family of Christians. I believe Satan is attempting to turn our family to sin through our son and that the only way to prevent this lies in the killing and ultimate release of this demon who has infected our son.

[eliot mayfield]

Re: Help me!

I need some advice. I found my son eating his cereal with his finger across his spoon in a most unholy and demonic way. He had his finger in a position which closely resembled a crucifix... but it was INVERTED. My son has created WORK OF THE DEVIL without realizing it. (I hope.) The Devil is channeling through his veins and I refuse to house a spawn of Satan. This is a holy residence and my son MUST be turned back to the side of God!!!! My husband and I have thought about killing him to remove this demon from his body. It states killing is against THE WORD OF GOD, but we would be doing so in the name of God to prevent Lucifer's evil from infecting our family of Christians. I believe Satan is attempting to turn our family to sin through our son and that the only way to prevent this lies in the killing and ultimate release of this demon who has infected our son.

You should contact the nearest law enforcement agency and tell them what you have told us. They can help you, really.

[ChristLover70]

Re: Help me!

We do not wish to kill our son, which is why I'm seeking help. Are there alternatives?

[Noah Dint]

Re: Help me!

Before we answer your questions we would like to know who we are associating with.

Have you gone to the introduction forum and introduced yourself properly? What are your favorite Bible verses? What Church do you attend?

Tell us a bit about you. We may have your answers. Depending on who you are, we may not...

-ND

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: Help me!

It states killing is against THE WORD OF GOD,

First, Hello.

Next, please identify your pronouns. What do you refer to by "it?" I am going to assume that "it" does not refer to the Holy Bible since God instructs us to kill many types of sinners, including disobedient children:

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

-- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

That said, the Bible ALSO instructs us to follow the laws of man, which means that you can't kill him unless it is self defense. A self defense claim against demon infestation has proven to be a very unsuccessful argument so far in U.S. courts. To understand why, look at the requirements of a successful self defense claim:

Use of force is justified when a person reasonably believes that it is necessary for the defense of oneself or another against the immediate use of unlawful force. However, a person must use no more force than appears reasonably necessary in the circumstances.

Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.

Now, some jurisdictions do not have a "reasonable belief" requirement, they just use "actual belief" which means that if you can rpove to the jury that you actually believed you were ion danger, no matter how crazy that belief was, it is taken that the "belief" element of the defense is satisfied.

The belief element is NOT teh reason that self defense against demonic possession of children has been so unsuccessful, however. The real stumbling point is the "immediate danger" element. Self defense is only allowed if you think you are about to be harmed or killed right then. If the harm or death will come later than that, even if only in a few minutes, then you are not allowed to use self defense. Demons take a long time to kill their victims and harm the kin of the victims. For those reasons, your best option is an exorcism, NOT killing your kid.

I think Pastor Zeke can help you with one of those?

[Aightletsdothis]

Re: Help me!

Kill him. He is clearly possessed by Satan, and the only way to drive the demon out is to kill him. Afterwards, you shall turn yourself in to the police and tell them what you did. Hopefully they can help you get over the worst pain after loosing your son.

God bless you and your son's soul.