Lying

[He's Not Dead]

Hello, I've recently converted to Christianity, and something has been troubling me for a while.
If you lie, but at the time think it is the truth, is it still a sin?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Lying

Short answer, No; long answer, Yes.

[He's Not Dead]

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Care to explain?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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God sees into your soul and adduces your intentions and motives.

Short answer: an honest mistake may be put down to the frailty of man, which should be acknowledged by the unintentional liar by way of prayer, (tithing,) repentance and amends to the offended (if any.)

Intentional lying is redeemed in a similar way but, one imagines, is a heavier sin.

A lie, intentional or not, in which one denies the Holy Spirit is blasphemy and thus is unforgivable. There are those (and I am amongst them) who believe that the wording of the verse stating this is such that it tends to indicate that Blasphemy is not categorized as a sin, but is greater than that.

This would appear to be a restriction on Christ's Covenant, yet if my belief is correct, it is not, for He promised only forgiveness of sins.

[He's Not Dead]

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A lie which denies the Holy Spirit? Sorry, I'm not sure I follow.

[James Hutchins]

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Son, you should never speak anything but the truth. If you are unsure, then it is a lie. You must never speak of anything unless you are 100% positive what you are saying is irrefutable.
Just like the Bible. Eons have been spent getting His words precise and unerring. This is why the KJV1611 Bible is the only True Bible(c).

[He's Not Dead]

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What if you believe with all your heart that it's the truth, and then you find out that what you said was wrong?

[James Hutchins]

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What if you believe with all your heart that it's the truth, and then you find out that what you said was wrong?

Does not matter, a lie is a lie. Re-read what I wrote. The truth is the truth. If you thought it was the truth but it wasn't you lied to God by being wrong. No room for errors, son.

[Mistress Cookie]

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What if you believe with all your heart that it's the truth, and then you find out that what you said was wrong?

Rather than dance around generalities, perhaps you could give us an example of such a "lie" you yourself feel you may have once commited?

Thank you.

[He's Not Dead]

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Rather than dance around generalities, perhaps you could give us an example of such a "lie" you yourself feel you may have once commited?

Thank you.

I told my ex girlfriend I loved her during the relationship, there's one for you. She broke up with me once I converted, and then I realized I never did love her.

[Mistress Cookie]

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I told my ex girlfriend I loved her during the relationship, there's one for you. She broke up with me once I converted, and then I realized I never did love her.

Perhaps you are "hare-splitting", as they say, and troubling yourself with things of no real Biblical consequence.

I am sure that as a good Christian, you love all God's creatures. So you did and still do love her, am I right? Perhaps you love some of the memories you carry of her, so in that sense, again, you do still love her. Maybe you revere blondes, and she's blonde. In that case, if you love blonde hair and she is blonde, then you do still love (a part of) her.

I could go on and on. Oh yes...some people say we cannot hate people unless we love the, or else they would not provoke such a strong, dismayed reaction. Therefore, if you currently hate her, you could even say this in itself is an indication of a love. Of sorts.

Does that help?

[He's Not Dead]

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Perhaps you are "hare-splitting", as they say, and troubling yourself with things of no real Biblical consequence.

I am sure that as a good Christian, you love all God's creatures. So you did and still do love her, am I right? Perhaps you love some of the memories you carry of her, so in that sense, again, you do still love her. Maybe you revere blondes, and she's blonde. In that case, if you love blonde hair and she is blonde, then you do still love (a part of) her.

I could go on and on. Oh yes...some people say we cannot hate people unless we love the, or else they would not provoke such a strong, dismayed reaction. Therefore, if you currently hate her, you could even say this in itself is an indication of a love. Of sorts.

Does that help?

It does, I see exactly what you mean, thank you.

[Professor Bessemer]

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I told my ex girlfriend I loved her during the relationship, there's one for you. She broke up with me once I converted, and then I realized I never did love her.

Did this relationship involve fornication? Did you lie to this young girl so that she would allow you to defile her? If this is the case, you must marry her regardless of whether or not you love her.

Also, you more than likely owe her father a substantial sum of money for despoiling his daughter.

[James Hutchins]

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I told my ex girlfriend I loved her during the relationship, there's one for you. She broke up with me once I converted, and then I realized I never did love her.

Oh wow! So not only did you lie to her, you lied to yourself and most importantly, you lied to God.
Son, loving A woman is a important commitment. Why I never told my wife I loved her until we had been together ten years. I had to be sure. Throwing around those words so cavalierly will get you into trouble.