[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

what about "THOU SHALT NOT MURDER/KILL"? you might argue you're not killing them actually.

vadkutya

Friend,

Is anyone dying? No, we just have some bums fighting so were does it say "though shall now about bums bash each other"?

Chapter and verse please.

[vadkutya]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

...pay a couple of hobos to fight each other to their deaths while I watch.

it's not just bums fighting
vadkutya

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

it's not just bums fighting
vadkutya

Friend,

You need to familiarizes yourself with The Bible more then. What does the law says about Law Breakers; "their blood shall be upon them" So for instance a homer kills himself when he becomes a homer. When they are stoned to death it is Christian assisted suicide. This is merely the same thing.

I hope this helps.

[H. Montague Worthington]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

They don't always die. Sometimes they just lose an eye, or require 126 stitches across their face and torso.

"Fight to their deaths" is just a figure of speech.*

* Goldman, Levy, Liebowitz, and Baum are joo lawyers experts in the in the areas of bankruptcy law, commercial collections, liability, and defense litigation on behalf of businesses, lenders, insurance companies, and individuals.

[vadkutya]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

Friend,

You need to familiarizes yourself with The Bible more then. What does the law says about Law Breakers; "their blood shall be upon them" So for instance a homer kills himself when he becomes a homer. When they are stoned to death it is Christian assisted suicide. This is merely the same thing.

I hope this helps.

but don't you think that the ten commandments weighing heavier in this matter as it explicitly refers to death by man. if god chooses to wipe people out he may do so but he explicitly forbid it in the commandments.

some ppl might act through the will of god but seeings bums fight would i think ridicule gods priorities...don't you think so?

vadkutya

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

but don't you think that the ten commandments weighing heavier in this matter as it explicitly refers to death by man. if god chooses to wipe people out he may do so but he explicitly forbid it in the commandments.

Why would any of God’s commandment weigh anymore than any others? I hope you are not trying to let people off for outrages like molten images or mixed fiber clothing.

some ppl might act through the will of god but seeings bums fight would i think ridicule gods priorities...don't you think so?

vadkutya

Now friend, remember “fight to the death” is merely a colorful figure of speech. A bit of harmless hyperbole and we no nothing of any bums being beaten to death on August 11th, 14th, 22nd, September 5th, 12th or 20th in Brother Montague’s presence in the Des Moines Union Pacific Railroad Yard. Yes Brother Montague admits to giving some bums a certain amount of money but he recalls nothing about saying the words “until one of you useless (expletive) loser dies”.

Now how is watching two bums fight be a sin against God?

Also, you do understand there is a long, long list of people God wants killed. The important point is God clearly commands against breaking the law so as good Christians we don’t kill people were it is illegal.

[vadkutya]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

Now friend, remember “fight to the death” is merely a colorful figure of speech.

didn't know that...not native english

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

didn't know that...not native english

Well friend, that explains some of the problems here. You see The Bible is written in Jesus Favorite Language(r) American-English so by not being a native speaker you don't pick up on the complex subtitles of American-English.

[vadkutya]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

hey Bobby-Joe,

Well friend, that explains some of the problems here. You see The Bible is written in Jesus Favorite Language® American-English so by not being a native speaker you don't pick up on the complex subtitles of American-English.

you may have a point in this but do you want me to say that e.g. the gospel of mark was written rougly some 2000 years ago in the middle east in american-english?

vadkutya

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

hey Bobby-Joe,



you may have a point in this but do you want me to say that e.g. the gospel of mark was written rougly some 2000 years ago in the middle east in american-english?

vadkutya

No, The Bible KJV1611 (the real one) was written by God in American-English.

[Marshall]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

If bums had any ambition or talent or drive they wouldn't be bums. They are the lowest denominator in our society and frankly it is because of that fact that I honestly don't see a problem with them earning money this way. They need to contribute to our economy somehow even if it is by buying booze. I really can't have much sympathy for folks who are too lazy to even bathe or get a job.
I have more important people and things to worry about.

[vadkutya]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

If bums had any ambition or talent or drive they wouldn't be bums. They are the lowest denominator in our society and frankly it is because of that fact that I honestly don't see a problem with them earning money this way. They need to contribute to our economy somehow even if it is by buying booze. I really can't have much sympathy for folks who are too lazy to even bathe or get a job.
I have more important people and things to worry about.

yet, without the poor there would be no rich! and didn't jesus heal the bums, live with them, throw out the pharisees (= the selfrighteous ppl with money). hasn't he said that the poor will be the first in heaven! there are the ten commandments! they are not that hard to grasp! RTFM!

vadkutya

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

yet, without the poor there would be no rich! and didn't jesus heal the bums, live with them, throw out the pharisees (= the selfrighteous ppl with money). hasn't he said that the poor will be the first in heaven! there are the ten commandments! they are not that hard to grasp! RTFM!

vadkutya

Friend,

You say you are atheist, then what value do you have for the ten commandments. Brother Marshall wants to help those bums out due his Christian compassion. With you atheist it is what? dissect them while they are alive to prove the theory of evolution.

[Marshall]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

Bums and the homeless are essentially worthless to America. they steal, get drunk and rape when they aren't smearing my trucks windshield with a filthy rag for spare change. They need to get on the good foot and get a job. There is no reason for any American to not have a job. Even Mexicans can find work so I KNOW a real American could if he had an ounce of ambition instead of 40 ounces of malted liquor.

Wasn't it Karl the Satanist Marx who said a nation should be defined by how it treats it's poor? Thats asinine. You should define a nation on how well the most successful live and are treated. The poor are wastes of time. Just look at the Katrina leeches, they are STILL worthless and begging for money just like they did before the storm.

[vadkutya]

Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight?

Bums and the homeless are essentially worthless to America.

and yet children of god, formed out of the same mud as everyone! (genesis)

The poor are wastes of time. Just look at the Katrina leeches, they are STILL worthless and begging for money just like they did before the storm.

yet jesus, especially cared about them...no matter what kind of a bible you have, this is fact! hence, shouldn't we care for the poor who need help, just as jesus did, than care for those who are not in need. isn't this what jesus meant when he talked about the lost brother (e.g. LUKE 15:11)?

and what about the pharisees whom jesus threw out of the temple. they were the riches...

sincerely, vadkutya