[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

According to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, to "plagiarize" means:

• to use (another's production) without crediting the source

This is the bit that applies to your case, Mr. Thomas. I have highlighted the most relevant part.

Dolores,
Though I disagree with what you say about plagiarism I appreciate actual debate and as such would be delighted to discuss your other posts to me. I had meant to do so earlier as they were quite thought provoking, but got lured into conversations that in hindsight would probably have been better spent talking to you.

I don't think you have actually read what I proposed. I am copying it here for your reference:

Second question: Mr. Thomas, are you willing to engage in a critical reading of the text you provided, where you and I would provide evidence to either support or reject every one of these statements?

As you can see, I am not interested in discussing my posts with you. I am only interested in a critical reading and fact-checking of the stuff that you copied and pasted, as an exercise for you to learn about the downfalls of mindless copying without prior fact-checking. As you did not answer my first question from the cited above post, I will assume that you did not actually read nor fact-check the stuff that you posted.

Now, this may be new for you, but here is the thing: not everything that you can copy from the internet is actually true. That goes especially to Wikipedia, which can be edited by any troll with too much free time on their hands, but there is a lot of baloney published even in peer-reviewed journals. A critical reader is able to assess the information and paraphrase what he/she sees as suitable - instead of copying a whole wall of text which may contain some inaccuracies.

[Jonathan Thomas]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Dana,

once again we see a true christian obsessed with foul habits of other people and slandering an unknown person. Get right with your God. I will pray for you


Dolores,


Funny...the part you highlighted are examples of how the plagiarism was carried out IN AN ATTEMPT AT FRAUD. This can be likened to a criminal guilty of theft--one may say he broke the law by stealing, and THEN show how. Copying anothers work without citation can only be demonstrative proof if you first prove that the person was committing plagiarism. i.e. work was copied and not cited in an attempt to commit fraud. You need to do a bit more research and not assume that everyone is in university where turning in work (something assigned to you with the expectation of original work) would constitute fraud. If you want to prove plagiarism you must first prove an attempt at fraud and then show how. such as copying and not citing. NO fraud=no plagiarism. Not the most difficult thing to grasp. If this site wants to try and accuse people of plagiarism, they must first put in the rules that all posts must be original or cited, and one would then need to accept the terms. Otherwise, posting in a forum is the same as having a conversation in person and I am pretty sure people do not carry a source list with them for the words that come out of their mouths. However, if I got on a stage for recognition, fame, or money then I would need to cite my sources. Considering that the people on this forum do not even know my real name though.....I hardly think so.


And that is too bad that you do not want to discuss your posts to me. Why did you take the time to pose questions to me then? Questions that have people like Mary calling you unsaved trash

[Jonathan Thomas]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Dolores,

And by the way. this is what oxford dictionary says about the word discuss;


Definition of discuss in English:

discuss




VERB

[WITH OBJECT]

• 1Talk about (something) with a person or people.
  ‘I discussed the matter with my wife’
  
  
  with clause ‘they were discussing where to go for a drink’
  
  More example sentences
  
  Synonyms
  
  • 1.1 Talk or write about (a topic) in detail, taking into account different issues or ideas
  • So how exactly does what you proposed not fit this definition?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Dana,
once again we see a true christian obsessed with foul habits of other people and slandering an unknown person.

Kindly be less offensive: Dana is not a True Christian.

Dolores,

And that is too bad that you do not want to discuss your posts to me. Why did you take the time to pose questions to me then? Questions that have people like Mary calling you unsaved trash

And, to the best of my recollection, nobody is calling Dolores "Unsaved Trash".

*****

Are there any more dictionary definitions you would like to cut and paste for us? Perhaps you'd like to start a thread dedicated to this? I'm sure everyone else would enjoy that as much as I would.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Are there any more dictionary definitions you would like to cut and paste for us? Perhaps you'd like to start a thread dedicated to this? I'm sure everyone else would enjoy that as much as I would.

If we're lucky, he might even bless us with some passages from the thesaurus!

[Jonathan Thomas]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Dolores,
So since it is obvious from your own words that what you want to do IS IN FACT discuss, I will begin.


[QUOTE=Jonathan Thomas;1239046]and no, i believe tristan vicke expresses irony much better

I was just thinking that it was sadly ironic that Christianity teaches abstinence but Christians have more unsafe sex than those educated in the precautionary methods of safe sex. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/epiphenom/2011/10/in-toronto-christian-students-are-most.html

I find it doubly ironic that Christians profess the sanctity of marriage, yet Evangelical Christians have among the highest divorce rates in the U.S. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2014/02/10/evangelical-divorce-rate-higher-than-atheists/
Even more ironic still is the fact that the Catholic Church is thought of as the body of Christ, an extension of his love for us, and yet, child rape runs rampant throughout an obviously corrupted institution. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/31/feature/the-epidemic-of-denial-about-sexual-abuse-in-the-evangelical-church/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.341721bf8d2f

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-evangelical-roy-moore-girls-1115-20171114-story.html

https://faithfullymagazine.com/sexual-abuse-evangelical-church/


http://sandpointreader.com/sex-abuse-among-evangelicals-worse-catholics/


I find it ironic that End of the World millennialists, like the recent Family Radio nutters, would cause their families so much grief and hardship for stupid beliefs which obviously proved false--yet other Christians ignore them entirely--saying they are fringe--and that they don't represent real Christianity. What compassion! What empathy! https://psmag.com/news/why-are-so-many-christians-obsessed-with-predicting-the-rapture


I find it ironic that Christianity is preached as a religion of love, yet never tires of informing you that you will burn in everlasting hellfire if you don't believe it too. I do not think this needs any source but if you do want it you can just enter the forum on this site and find this for yourself.


I find it ironic that Christians will jump at the chance to talk with you about your differing beliefs, only to casually and impolitely slip in the fact that everything you believe is false, that they are right, and you are wrong. This again can be attested to by anyone who has ever spoken to a christian--especially on this site.

It's strange, if not just a little bit ironic, that Christians think the Bible is in anyway reliable, the very bedrock of their pious faith, yet don't follow 90% of what it teaches.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/10/survey-finds-american-christians-actually-heretics/


I find it ironic that Christians think the Bible explains things in the natural world better than science, when in truth, that's such a distortion of reality as we know it that to believe such a thing is to prove oneself delusional. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/christianity-and-modern-science_b_5182177.html

[Jonathan Thomas]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

If we're lucky, he might even bless us with some passages from the thesaurus!

Make up your mind people! Do you want citations of source or not. When people erroneously attribute the wrong definition to a word, it is the christian thing to do to educate them. Honestly I am surprised at you Joanna....Do you not "love to be helpful"?





And yes, in fact they are calling her that;






Dear Jonathan Thomas,

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forum.

Reason: Debating Other unsaved trash instead of praising Jesus®
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Why haven't you praised Jesus yet? We're waiting!
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This infraction is worth 2 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.



However, you are not at fault for not knowing Joanna as it was a P.M.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

And yes, in fact they are calling her that;

Dear Jonathan Thomas,

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forum.

Reason: Debating Other unsaved trash instead of praising Jesus®
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Why haven't you praised Jesus yet? We're waiting!
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This infraction is worth 2 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

That would be the post in which you were also arguing with the wretched Didymus.


(Mary, I think your use of the word "debating" there may have been over-generous!)

[Didymus Much]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

...And yes, in fact they are calling her that;

Dear Jonathan Thomas,

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forum.

Reason: Debating Other unsaved trash instead of praising Jesus®
...

Hey, Einstein, it could have been me they were referring to.


STOP TREATING YOUR IGNORANT ASSUMPTIONS AS FACTS.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Dolores,
So since it is obvious from your own words that what you want to do IS IN FACT discuss, I will begin....

You're confused, dear. This topic regards the left-handed heresy, not every reason you're angry at Christians. Kindly stay on topic.

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Dolores,

And by the way. this is what oxford dictionary says about the word discuss;

Mr. Thomas, I deeply apologize if you have trouble understanding what I am trying to convey. I will color code the relevant part of my quote that you seem to have missed:

As you can see, I am not interested in discussing my posts with you.

I hope that from now on, you will be concentrating with more effort on reading before you write. That being said, I do appreciate that you are finally willing to try to read critically - and discuss afterwards - the stuff you mindlessly copied and pasted.

I find your way of writing inside of a quote rather confusing, but I see you made no effort to critically assess any of the statements, you just threw some websites or words of support. Hence, I will cite the original copied text and do the critical analysis for you:

it was sadly ironic that Christianity teaches abstinence but Christians have more unsafe sex than those educated in the precautionary methods of safe sex.

The person who wrote this is comparing oranges and apples. The fact that Christians practice unsafe sex is a logical consequence of their preaching abstinence - thus not teaching safe sex practices. What would make a much greater impact here, would be the statistic showing overall sexual encounters comparing Christians and non-Christians, for example in the teen to unmarried young adult categories.

I find it doubly ironic that Christians profess the sanctity of marriage, yet Evangelical Christians have among the highest divorce rates in the U.S.

When the author of this text is talking about the sanctity of marriage, he/she is talking about Catholics. Evangelical Christians are not Catholic.

Even more ironic still is the fact that the Catholic Church is thought of as the body of Christ, an extension of his love for us, and yet, child rape runs rampant throughout an obviously corrupted institution.

I agree with the author of this text here. Catholic Church is the longest-existing criminal organization in the world. That is why Catholic Church is criticized by many Christians. On this very forum, you will find an entire section devoted to criticizing the Catholic Church.

I find it ironic that End of the World millennialists, like the recent Family Radio nutters, would cause their families so much grief and hardship for stupid beliefs which obviously proved false--yet other Christians ignore them entirely--saying they are fringe--and that they don't represent real Christianity. What compassion! What empathy!

The author of these words seems to believe that "compassion" and "empathy" are concepts that are somehow relevant to Christianity. Therefore, he/she seems to ignore the 1700 years of history of Christianity - counting since the first time they became a power - which is a long string of genocides and different forms of oppression committed in the name of God. "Compassion" and "empathy" are not the words that come to my mind when I think about people committing a genocide or selling other human beings as property.

I find it ironic that Christianity is preached as a religion of love, yet never tires of informing you that you will burn in everlasting hellfire if you don't believe it too.

Well, this is exactly what the Christian Holy Book - the Bible - says, so there is no good way around it.


When you think about it, claiming that you have the only correct belief is what makes a religion survive. Even Bahaism - the religion that claims to be the most accepting and tolerant of them all - has the premise that while all religions are OK, their own is the best.

I find it ironic that Christians will jump at the chance to talk with you about your differing beliefs, only to casually and impolitely slip in the fact that everything you believe is false, that they are right, and you are wrong.

That goes with the previous point. The same happens if you talk to a Muslim, or a Bahai, or a Buddhist. Or, switching gears for a moment, the same thing happens when a Democrat meets a Republican: the Democrat is convinced he/she is correct and Republican is wrong, and vice versa.

It's strange, if not just a little bit ironic, that Christians think the Bible is in anyway reliable, the very bedrock of their pious faith, yet don't follow 90% of what it teaches.

That is true in many Christian denominations, but I think you will be positively surprised that this lovely community, the Landover Baptist Church, adheres to the Holy Bible 100%. Even to the very ugly bits of it.

I find it ironic that Christians think the Bible explains things in the natural world better than science, when in truth, that's such a distortion of reality as we know it that to believe such a thing is to prove oneself delusional.

The author of this statement seems to misunderstand the meaning of the word "believe." That's the basic difference between science and religion. A scientific mind looks at existing evidence and builds hypotheses, theories, and laws based on it. A religious mind doesn't care about evidence, because to believe means to accept things without any evidence, as well as contrary to evidence.

You see it in politics, too: with the Kavanaugh hearing, and no matter what evidence is brought, Republicans and Democrats have already made their decision, which is based on Kavanaugh's political views, and has nothing to do with his alleged conduct. Even now, half of the country believes he did it because they disliked him from the getgo, and the other half believes he's innocent because they already liked him before the allegation surfaced. That's the power of belief: evidence doesn't matter.

[Jonathan Thomas]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

[LEFT-HANDED PORN IN ATTEMPT TO SHOCK GOOD AND DECENT CHRISTIANS REMOVED BY MODERATOR]

[Jonathan Thomas]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

dolores,



most of what you wrote is opinion and also wrong--see? I can act like a true christian as well! I do not believe you read more than what you wanted from those sites, otherwise you would have seen that most of your comments are covered in them and make your arguments look amateur.


As to not wanting to discuss....Have you never actually had conversations with people? If you ask questions of someone, you are looking for a response. If you did not want to discuss YOUR posts you should not have asked so many questions in those posts. I think you are confused....I never differentiated between your older posts and the one you are now obsessed with. I did however respond to that particular bit first in order to comply and be polite.


But it is all in good humor anyway...

[Jonathan Thomas]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

be diligent before assuming things people. this infraction came immediately after I proposed DISCUSSING topics with dolores, Something i never proposed or did with didymus--I merely responded to his sick perverted thoughts in order to encourage him to seek god and banish his disgusting masturbation obsessed demons from his body.





Nice try Mary but considering the amount of posts i have received using far more disgusting and graphic representations of the filthy act, maybe you should be a little more responsible in your duties as a moderator!

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

dolores,

most of what you wrote is opinion and also wrong--see? I can act like a true christian as well!

No, I don't really see any True Christians running around throwing temper tantrums.

I do not believe you read more than what you wanted from those sites, otherwise you would have seen that most of your comments are covered in them and make your arguments look amateur.

Very well - prove it. Just saying that my arguments look amateur doesn't make that statement true.


And please do not reply with a pasted quote or a link. I want to hear your voice, your opinion, your understanding, and not of some random idiot on the internet.

As to not wanting to discuss....Have you never actually had conversations with people? If you ask questions of someone, you are looking for a response. If you did not want to discuss YOUR posts you should not have asked so many questions in those posts. I think you are confused....

Oh, I am deeply confused, right now. First, you come here copying and pasting some stuff without thinking. Then, I politely ask you to try to read critically the stuff you copied and pasted, with the hope that this exercise may teach you why it is not good to just copy and paste random stuff from the internet. Then you want to discuss my posts, which does not make any sense whatsoever as my posts are just appeals to critically assess the stuff you wrote. And now you are avoiding engaging in a fact-checking conversation altogether.