William is.....

[Cheshire]

Requesting a divorce. I'm fairly sure God'll send him to Hell if he goes through with it,, though!

[Wide-Open]

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William... eh... remind me... eh...

Clinton you mean?

[Dr. Otto Bond Sr.]

Re: William is.....

Requesting a divorce. I'm fairly sure God'll send him to Hell if he goes through with it,, though!

God won't send him to Hell for divorce (no matter how much you wish to the contrary) but she's not allowed to go back to her original husband if something happens to the man she re-married:

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. Deuteronomy 24:1-4

Praise our Lord's wisdom!

[tLakota]

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Requesting a divorce. I'm fairly sure God'll send him to Hell if he goes through with it,, though!

I'm so sorry.... Did he tell you why? Either way, you should talk together with a pastor present, maybe you can fix your marriage. Sadly, the bible doesn't completely ban divorce, it depends on the reasons, who is requesting it, and whether there is sin involved. Either way, I know this may be a very hard thing to share, and I wish you the best.

[Old Iron Crotch]

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God won't send him to Hell for divorce (no matter how much you wish to the contrary) but she's not allowed to go back to her original husband if something happens to the man she re-married:

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. Deuteronomy 24:1-4

Praise our Lord's wisdom!

Jesus changed that one - he said the only valid reason for divorce was adultery.

[Dr. Otto Bond Sr.]

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I'm so sorry.... Did he tell you why? Either way, you should talk together with a pastor present, maybe you can fix your marriage. Sadly, the bible doesn't completely ban divorce, it depends on the reasons, who is requesting it, and whether there is sin involved. Either way, I know this may be a very hard thing to share, and I wish you the best.

Very true. Honestly, William seems like a limp-wristed pansy to me for chickening out and divorcing instead of growing a pair and running the household like a man.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Requesting a divorce. I'm fairly sure God'll send him to Hell if he goes through with it,, though!

For there to be any Biblical wisdom handed out here, I feel that the forum as a whole would benefit from knowing the finer details: times, dates, feelings, noises, etc., plus any interesting evidential photographs, videos and so on and so forth.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Jesus changed that one - he said the only valid reason for divorce was adultery.

OK, 5 points here:

• The passage posted by Brother Dr. Otto quoted refers to “some uncleanness” which includes adultery.

• Now, with your wiccan ways, you may find that “spreading the happiness about” is a lifestyle for you and your husband – Jesus, however, does not.

• You are a woman. Why on earth should you have any expertise in these matters?

• Your attempt to derail the thread will not succeed.

• Your post would have been better without the words, “Jesus changed that one - he said the only valid reason for divorce was adultery.”

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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Requesting a divorce. I'm fairly sure God'll send him to Hell if he goes through with it,, though!

Two questions.

Is William a saved Christian?

Are you guilty of adultery? (Remember, this includes looking at anyone lustfully, even once.)

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Cheshire]

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William is (I am fairly sure) a Saved Christian. I have not commited adultery, as I only leave the house to excersize(in the backyard) and get food/groceries. William says I am too religous for him, and he needs to be free, so maybe he isn't saved...

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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William says I am too religous for him, and he needs to be free, so maybe he isn't saved...

He doesn't sound saved. Too religious??? That doesn't make any sense. That would be like being too alive.

Since your husband is not a saved Christian, then the applicable scripture is 1 Corinthians 7:12-15.

12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

God does not expect unsaved folks to be able to keep their wedding vows. If your unsaved husband wants to leave, then you should let him go. You are under no obligation to stay married to him, and you are free to remarry.

To answer your earlier question, your husband is most certainly going to Hell, but he will be going there regardless of whether he stays or goes.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Cheshire]

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He doesn't sound saved. Too religious??? That doesn't make any sense. That would be like being too alive.

Since your husband is not a saved Christian, then the applicable scripture is 1 Corinthians 7:12-15.

12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

God does not expect unsaved folks to be able to keep their wedding vows. If your unsaved husband wants to leave, then you should let him go. You are under no obligation to stay married to him, and you are free to remarry.

To answer your earlier question, your husband is most certainly going to Hell, but he will be going there regardless of whether he stays or goes.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Thank you very much, Pastor. I'll finalize the papers soon.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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Thank you very much, Pastor. I'll finalize the papers soon.

I'm just glad I could be of service, ma'am. If you feel the need for some one-on-one counseling, I can make myself available any time of day or night.

Yours in Christ,
Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Justina Thyme]

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Sister Cheshire, I am truly sorry to hear of your travails. Do you by any chance burn candles in your home? They could be the source of your problems, as they can be hosts for DEMONS:

CANDLES

Hurricane Katrina came through here on August 29, 2005. We were without power for five days and five hours. We never used candles, but had regular batteries for the radio, and rechargeable batteries that kept their charge for night lighting. Warnings on the news was NOT to use candles because of possible fires.

Elsewhere on our website, we talk about objects in your home that can be "hosts" for demons. Candles can also be a "host".

A former African witchdoctor who practiced witchcraft for over twenty years said that demons are attracted to the substance candles are made out of. Candles were a part of his witchcraft. It does not matter what color, shape, or smell they have. When lit, the smell of the candle also calls on another big time demon. Is it a wonder why the candle business is in the Billions of dollars a year! No wonder too that so many churches have candles all over the place.

Get rid of all your candles. You may just be getting rid of some of your problems. This also pertains to incense.

For those Bible researchers who read that "candles" were mentioned in the Bible, look in your Strong's concordance. The Original term is "lamp" "oil" or "oil lamp", NOT "candle". The menorah tradition goes back to 165 B.C. They did not use candles, but used oil.

After you get rid of the candles, command all the demons to leave you and your property, in the name of Jesus, JUST IN CASE.

What if the lights go out, you say? Use a flashlight!

Still want candles? Look at www.4lf.com to see rechargeable battery operated candle lites. The lamp burns for six hours on a single charge.

Candles have been around a long time -- they were used in Egypt and Crete as early at 3000 B.C., and by the 13th century candles were being manufactured by craftsmen. But just recently have candles become big business. They have candle parties just like Tupperware parties. "I was amazed and surprised by the volume sold (with only about a dozen people at the party). Some people spent more than $100."

One woman says, "There's just so many things you can do with candles. You can decorate. You can actually use them to take you back to your childhood, to recapture a smell of something, maybe a gardenia. Or you can use them just to relax. I'll burn candles everywhere, and it's extremely relaxing to me."

"In the last four or five years, we've seen steady growth in the industry. I think a big part of it is decorative, simply because you can change the whole look of a room simply by adding candles. But I think another part of it is something called aromatherapy, which a lot of people are getting into." Aromatherapy contends that scent can enhance a person's mood.

"No doubt it works. For instance, a lavender candle is anti-stress. I've had people tell me that they'd had trouble sleeping, then burned a lavender candle just before going to bed. They said they slept like a baby."

And, there are dozens of other candle specialties. Some are dripless and smokeless. "This is a big deal for weddings and things like that." Some are odor eaters. "They contain chlorophyll, and it eliminates the smell of smoke, pets and food." Some serve as a decongestant. "We have one that's called a eucalyptus. A lot of parents buy them to put in the room of a child who has asthma or a cold. The effect is amazing, really."

THE DEVIL HAS A CANDLE FOR EVERY NEED. HE MAKES IT LOOK GOOD AND SMELL GOOD JUST SO YOU CAN BRING HIS DEMONS INTO YOUR HOME.

ALSO: If you have severe stomach pains or a stomach virus, break the power of the curse of burning incense. You may have been around someone burning incense or someone may have been burning incense on your behalf.

[Brother Temperance]

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I'm so sorry.... Did he tell you why? Either way, you should talk together with a pastor present, maybe you can fix your marriage.

If that's what her marriage looks like, I fear it may be beyond fixing.