[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Seems like a waste to me.
If your god designed this process, why didn't he make it more efficient?.

Do you have the knowledge of God to judge His decisions? No. I personally think it is God prefers to give all possible humans an existence not matter how limited. We can safely assume these un-conceived souls are utterly evil and richly deserve their fates.

Frankly I fail to see why you pagans get your goat gut G strings in such a twist about this. It is not like you have anything better to offer as an explanation for all of this. I hear some vaguely scientific explainations about this but since secular science refuses to admit the existance of souls the issue of when a soul enters the body is not covered.

[M.D. (Quarantined)]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Each year, 40 million innocent American babies are sent to Hell by wicked abortionists before they can comprehend Jesus. Pray to God that He may smite all of these murderers and end the slaughter.

Alright, let's say if the FETUS wasn't terminated it would kill the mother and die itself. Would you rather have a dead fetus and a dead mother who could no longer bear any children or a dead fetus and a living mom who could try again?

Don't get me wrong though, I am against little teenagers who start binge drinking and can't handle responsibility for their own actions.

[Enobarbus]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

But is it not better to abort a bastard baby before it is born, than to raise a pre-damned child into an adult who may well raise up more bastards, none of whom can enter Heaven?

Brother OnYourKnees, I am shocked. I can only imagine that Rachael has led you astray somehow and suggest that you keep well away from the witch. Where is our young friend Daniel, I ask you? After the witch Undie put a spell on him he has disappeared, probably lost to the Lord forever. Even as I write this, I fear that he may be somewhere in the woods dancing skyclad with a coterie of chubby teenage harlots... and he once such a pious seeming young man...

Please read carefully what Brother Wash has written and remember that God's plan is beyond the ken of us mere mortals. What is plain is that God is producing many hellbound sinners, and those extra hell-destined bastards raised up by the bastard you mention, may have an important role to play in helping to fill hell.

I feel some extra prayers, Bible readings, and an increase in your tithes may be called for Brother. We don't want to lose you to the witches as we did poor Daniel.

[Enobarbus]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Alright, let's say if the FETUS wasn't terminated it would kill the mother and die itself. Would you rather have a dead fetus and a dead mother who could no longer bear any children or a dead fetus and a living mom who could try again?

Don't get me wrong though, I am against little teenagers who start binge drinking and can't handle responsibility for their own actions.

M.D., are you a complete idiot. Abortion is wrong. If God has decided that the mother should die -- or that both of them should die -- it is not for man to intervene. What is there about ABORTION IS WRONG UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES that you don't understand?

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Seems like a waste to me.
If your god designed this process, why didn't he make it more efficient? Why not sync the man's sperm production to the woman's ovulation, have sexual desire/ability only present during ovulation, have the man only release one soul/sperm, and give it a guidance system that would ensure that it arrived at its fallopian destination? That way, almost every sperm produced would become a person.

Have you heard of Original Sin? When Eve introduced evil into the Garden, everything became messed up--humans started dying, dinosaurs grew sharp teeth and began to eat each other, and there were even whispers of homosexuality. It is quite likely that reproduction was exactly as you describe before this happened... not that you would know a God-damned thing about the LORD's divine plan.

[M.D. (Quarantined)]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

M.D., are you a complete idiot. Abortion is wrong. If God has decided that the mother should die -- or that both of them should die -- it is not for man to intervene. What is there about ABORTION IS WRONG UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES that you don't understand?

If God wanted women to die because they couldn't kill their fetus, he wouldn't have created ways to abort the fetus and save the woman's life or would have made it impossible to perform such tasks.

[Enobarbus]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

If God wanted women to die because they couldn't kill their fetus, he wouldn't have created ways to abort the fetus and save the woman's life or would have made it impossible to perform such tasks.

Oh, do stop being a complete idiot. God has created evil so he can test our faith! If it was not possible for us to do evil, how would the Lord know who to send to hell? How?

Since Adam sinned we are all sinners and will roast in hell lest we find the Lord. Your chances are running out M.D. although I doubt that the likes of you or any of Hellion's crew are members of the Anointed.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Actually I do believe in the soul and that there is a point where it gets one. After it is born. Until it is born, it's essentially a potential person, no more.

So by your logic, it should be fine to have abortions at the 8-and-a-half month stage, because there's no harm caused to anything with a soul?

Oh.....wait....yes, that is the xtian belief, no? That miscarried babies of a non-xtian mother automatically go to hell?
How very charming.....not!

No, miscarried babies of all mothers go to Hell. Salvation isn't genetically passed on, it is a choice each individual has to make for themself. Or not make, in the case of tiny babies who Jesus kills before they know who He is.

Alright, let's say if the FETUS wasn't terminated it would kill the mother and die itself. Would you rather have a dead fetus and a dead mother who could no longer bear any children or a dead fetus and a living mom who could try again?

Friend, if the Lord has chosen to smite a woman with a raghead suicide bomber foetus, then she has clearly angered Him greatly. It is not wise to interfere with the Lord's wrath.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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So by your logic, it should be fine to have abortions at the 8-and-a-half month stage, because there's no harm caused to anything with a soul?

Well that would be endangering the mother.
However, a baby aborted at that stage might just end up being born anyway.
The problem with late abortions is it would be upsetting to see as the baby would be formed more fully.
I guess my answer would have to be, if a woman is going to get an abortion, she should do it in the proper time.

No, miscarried babies of all mothers go to Hell. Salvation isn't genetically passed on, it is a choice each individual has to make for themself. Or not make, in the case of tiny babies who Jesus kills before they know who He is.

Ah...
You beliefs are extremely mean.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

The problem with late abortions is it would be upsetting to see as the baby would be formed more fully.
I guess my answer would have to be, if a woman is going to get an abortion, she should do it in the proper time.


Ah...
You beliefs are extremely mean.

OH! I see! So its a question of fluffybunny liebrals being "upset" about the sight of a murdered, mangled baby corpse then...You vile atheists have absolutely no morality, do you.

Don't you know that Jesus becomes infuriated every time one of you selfish women decide to kill an infant?

And you call Christ mean?!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Well that would be endangering the mother.
However, a baby aborted at that stage might just end up being born anyway.
The problem with late abortions is it would be upsetting to see as the baby would be formed more fully.
I guess my answer would have to be, if a woman is going to get an abortion, she should do it in the proper time.

So you believe that it doesn't have a soul, so it's morally fine, but it'd look icky, and you want things that look icky to be banned?

Ah...
You beliefs are extremely mean.

The word you're looking for there is "true", not mean. Do you only believe in things that are nice? Do you believe that 30.2% of pregnant South African women have HIV? Because that sounds like a pretty mean thing to belive in to me.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

OH! I see! So its a question of fluffybunny liebrals being "upset" about the sight of a murdered, mangled baby corpse then...You vile atheists have absolutely no morality, do you.

Don't you know that Jesus becomes infuriated every time one of you selfish women decide to kill an infant?

Well, it's a little hard for someone to be infuriated who, if he even existed, would be long dead by now!

And you call Christ mean?!

I'm calling YOU mean. The biblical jesus wasn't just mean, he was a sadistic asshole. However, like I said, see my above response.

So you believe that it doesn't have a soul, so it's morally fine, but it'd look icky, and you want things that look icky to be banned?

Argh!! That isn't what I mean.
After a certain point, the baby is developed enough to potentially survive outside the womb, and thus become a new life. Thus aborting it would be a shame.

The word you're looking for there is "true", not mean. Do you only believe in things that are nice? Do you believe that 30.2% of pregnant South African women have HIV? Because that sounds like a pretty mean thing to belive in to me.

That isn't mean, that's an extremely unfortunate occurance that could have been easily prevented with proper contraceptives.
What's a bet that a bunch of dumbass xtian missionary shitheads probably refuse to give them condoms.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

That isn't mean, that's an extremely unfortunate occurance that could have been easily prevented with proper contraceptives.
What's a bet that a bunch of dumbass xtian missionary shitheads probably refuse to give them condoms.

That's because they're teaching them ABSTINENCE. You know, keeping your legs closed?

It's the only 100% certain way to avoid pregnancy AND STDs.

Its effectiveness is attested to by the fact that nearly 70% of pregnant women in Africa do NOT have HIV! Glory to Jesus and President GW Bush's Abstinence-Only Initiatives!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

That's because they're teaching them ABSTINENCE. You know, keeping your legs closed?

It's the only 100% certain way to avoid pregnancy AND STDs.

Its effectiveness is attested to by the fact that nearly 70% of pregnant women in Africa do NOT have HIV! Glory to Jesus and President GW Bush's Abstinence-Only Initiatives!

Well, 30% positive is utterly appalling. It should be much, much less than that.
And abstinence-only is rubbish. People are going to have sex. No matter what some dumbass preacher tells them, in the end the sexual desire will win over.
And in not teaching people safe sex, and refusing to discuss sex and safe sex options, well, that is ensuring that a lot of people are going to end up with a lot of unwanted pregnancies and STDs.

Abstinence only? Ha! The poster for that would undoubtedly be a picture of an ostrich with its head in the sand!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Abstinence only? Ha! The poster for that would undoubtedly be a picture of an ostrich with its head in the sand!

Ha yourself! The poster for abstinence is Jesus Christ our Lord, who was never stained by a woman vile touch in His 33 years on earth. Jesus is the one to emulate, not the hairy communistic rock singers you idolize, nor the monkeys you atheists worship.

Think about it; 100 years ago, before the pervert Darwin cursed our world, how many abortion-murders were there? How many nigras had AIDS? Zero, thats how many!

And there was only a few hundred homers on earth at that time too. It's you atheists who have brought all this suffering on those nigra mammies in africa. Are you happy now?