[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

In reality though it is NEVER necessary to add extra words or pronounce where God made a mistake because, just like Christians, God is PERFECT. When people abandon Jesus and make up their own stuff you don't just get gibberish YOU GET CORRUPTION.

Great observations, Sister Mitza. I'm always amused when some sinner says, "I'll pray on it", or, "I'll pray for you."

If they would read our Bible they would know they are wasting their time praying--God ignores them. They waste our time, as well, telling us about their "praying".

Sinners, God does not hear your prayers.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

Reading through the thread with a small night cap and after only 104 posts I was a little startled

1 John 3:8-9[/B] He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Actually this is the true 1 John 3:8-9 8 Whoever makes a PRATICE of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a PRATICE of sinning, for God's[a] seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

so what do you think I did?

Yes, I turned to the KJV site immediately.

Next I went to I JOHN.



I JOHN 3 .KJV . look up .. CONTEXT
6– Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7– Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8a He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
8b For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9a Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin

Why is that? God explains it for us. No guesswork required here!

9b For his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

It seems very straightforward. Christians DO NOT sin because Christians CANNOT sin. I've included the preamble for this text, verse 6, in which God tells us that we don't sin. Nothing about habituation or the practice of sinning. The post which startled me contained those ADDED words in order to change the meaning. That is calling God a LIAR because if He left out that word, how do we know He didn't leave out other words too? Words which, if included, alter the meaning? Words like "and God" say in verse 8?

He that committeth sin is of the devil and God; for the devil and God sinneth from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil and God.

Perhaps God mistakenly used the wrong word "seed" where "fungus" was actually intended? If God can get words mixed up anything is possible and from the context we should understand that "born of God" is wrong too. Just add the in new fungus themed words and it's all better..

For his fungus remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is off his head on toadstools.

In reality though it is NEVER necessary to add extra words or pronounce where God made a mistake because, just like Christians, God is PERFECT. He has given us a perfect book to read with perfect eyes. But what startled me more than anything was the entreaty to READ IT!!! Which I DID!! When people abandon Jesus and make up their own stuff you don't just get gibberish (well, you do but in addition) YOU GET CORRUPTION.

[John Creeser]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

For many years I prayed for Salvation, now I trust in the finished work of Jesus and his shed blood. Robert Breaker told me the Gospel of Salvation is 1 Cor 15 1 - 4 KJV. We all sinners, we all fall short of God's glory. I no longer trust in my pray for Salvation.

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[TheBillABCTV]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

I would like to post a quick reminder for those of you who call yourself Christians and sinners. As we all know, True Christians are Perfect. as evidenced by:

1 John 3:8-9 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Now, some of you may not believe that. You may try to twist the verses posted in that sermon into believing that you are still a horrible sinner, but God loves you anyway. For those of you; I would ask, why do you even bother praying? Don't you know God doesn't listen to the prayers of sinners? God only listens to those who do His will.

After Jesus heals the blind man, a fellow speaking up for Christ tells us that; any man who does His Father's will, the Father will listen to him. Not those in sin.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.



But only the right kind of Christian. A True Christian

Here are additional references and resources that show us God withdrawing His protection and hearing from sinners.

Deuteronomy 1:45 And ye returned and wept before the LORD; but the LORD would not hearken to your voice, nor give ear unto you.,
Deuteronomy 3:26 But the LORD was wroth with me for your sakes, and would not hear me: and the LORD said unto me, Let it suffice thee; speak no more unto me of this matter.
2 Samuel 22:42 They looked, but there was none to save; even unto the LORD, but he answered them not.
Job 27:9 Will God hear his cry when trouble cometh upon him?
Job 35:12-13 There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men. Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.
Psalms 18:41 They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not.,
Psalms 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
Proverbs 1:24-28 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;




When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
Proverbs 15:8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
Proverbs 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.
Proverbs 21:13 Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard.
Proverbs 21:27, The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind?
Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Isaiah 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
Isaiah 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Jeremiah 11:11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them.
Jeremiah 14:12 When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.
Jeremiah 15:1 Then said the LORD unto me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my mind could not be toward this people: cast them out of my sight, and let them go forth.
Jeremiah 18:17 I will scatter them as with an east wind before the enemy; I will shew them the back, and not the face, in the day of their calamity.

Lamentations 3:8 Also when I cry and shout, he shutteth out my prayer.
Lamentations 3:44 Thou hast covered thyself with a cloud, that our prayer should not pass through.





Ezekiel 8:18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
Ezekiel 20:3 Son of man, speak unto the elders of Israel, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are ye come to enquire of me? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will not be enquired of by you.
Ezekiel 20:31 For when ye offer your gifts, when ye make your sons to pass through the fire, ye pollute yourselves with all your idols, even unto this day: and shall I be enquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will not be enquired of by you.
Hosea 5:6 They shall go with their flocks and with their herds to seek the LORD; but they shall not find him; he hath withdrawn himself from them.
Micah 3:4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
Zechariah 7:12-13 Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts. Therefore it is come to pass, that as he cried, and they would not hear; so they cried, and I would not hear, saith the LORD of hosts:
Malachi 1:9 And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts.
Malachi 2:11-13 Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god. The LORD will cut off the man that doeth this, the master and the scholar, out of the tabernacles of Jacob, and him that offereth an offering unto the LORD of hosts.
And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.

James 1:6-7 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.


This is why prayers are not answered. It's never God's fault. It's always yours, because you clearly did something to anger God to make Him cut you off.

For many years I prayed for Salvation, now I trust in the finished work of Jesus and his shed blood. Robert Breaker told me the Gospel of Salvation is 1 Cor 15 1 - 4 KJV. We all sinners, we all fall short of God's glory. I no longer trust in my pray for Salvation.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

God hears the prayers of all his children...

Nice thought, but what's the basis for your belief? Certainly not the Bible, as it directly contradicts several of your claims. So where is your guidance coming from?

[Starcatcher]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

God hears the prayers of all his children. What if someone wishes to repent and turn their life around? No one is perfect either, only God and Jesus are perfect and to say otherwise is blasphemy. We humans can only try to emulate Jesus's perfection and pray so that God steers us away from sin.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

This entire website is deplorable!

Hillary? Is that you?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

This entire website is dedicated to preaching the Truth™ about God's Word, i.e., the Holy Bible.
Are you calling the Bible and its teachings deplorable?
Expectantly Yours, Handmaiden

There is an old saying, "No good deed goes unpunished."

We work away, here, bringing the good news about Jesus to the world. We inform sinners about the consequences of the sins.

As a reward, our work is called "deplorable." We must soldier on with our good deeds in spite of the punishment we suffer.

[handmaiden]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

This entire website is deplorable!

This entire website is dedicated to preaching the Truth(tm) about God's Word, i.e., the Holy Bible.


Are you calling the Bible and its teachings deplorable?




Expectantly Yours,


Handmaiden

[Didymus Much]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

This entire website is deplorable!

Scripture or STFU, thanks!

[Hereigns]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

This entire website is deplorable!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

That's not ok, the poor woman needs good wishes, not being sent to hell by you

You're confused, dear. I can't send anyone to Hell. People send themselves. They choose to go to Hell because they embrace Sin instead of meeting the conditions by which Jesus will forgive them (John 15:10; Matthew 10:33). Some choose hypocrisy (Matthew 24:51), some choose to harbor grudges (Mark 11:26), some choose the sodomite lifestyle (Romans 1:26, 27), fornication (Romans 1:29), wickedness (Romans 1:29), coveting other people's things (Romans 1:29), maliciousness (Romans 1:29), envy (Romans 1:29), murder (Romans 1:29), deceit (Romans 1:29), backbiting others (Romans 1:30), hating God (Romans 1:30), generally being despiteful (Romans 1:30), pride (Romans 1:30), boasting (Romans 1:30), inventing evil (Romans 1:30), refusing to be obedient unto their parents (Romans 1:30), breaking covenants (Romans 1:31), being unmerciful (Romans 1:31), being implacable (Romans 1:31), or unrighteous (1 Corinthians 6:9), choosing idols (1 Corinthians 6:9), adultery (1 Corinthians 6:9), the effeminate lifestyle (1 Corinthians 6:9), choosing theft (1 Corinthians 6:10), being drunkards (1 Corinthians 6:10), or revilers (1 Corinthians 6:10), or extortioners (1 Corinthians 6:10), or fear (Revelation 21:8), not choosing to believe (Revelation 21:8), choosing to be abominable (Revelation 21:8), or whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), and certainly all liars (Revelation 21:8).

I hope that helps clear up your confusion.

[AroundTheLooneyBin]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

I hope she's accepted Christ as her Lord and Master, or her sinful, offensive soul will burn for all eternity, giving her nothing but enduring pain and torment, to the Glory of God.

That's not ok, the poor woman needs good wishes, not being sent to hell by you

[Des]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

Speaking of prayers, I need help from a higher power.

My mom has a potentially fatal condition where there's a small hole in her skull and it makes her leak brain fluid from her nose.

She goes to surgery on an unspecified date.

Has she tried duct tape? Bondo? Flex Seal as seen on TV? Surely one of those would plug up the leak.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Reminder: God does not hear the prayers of sinners.

Speaking of prayers, I need help from a higher power.

My mom has a potentially fatal condition where there's a small hole in her skull and it makes her leak brain fluid from her nose.

She goes to surgery on an unspecified date.

I hope she's accepted Christ as her Lord and Master, or her sinful, offensive soul will burn for all eternity, giving her nothing but enduring pain and torment, to the Glory of God.