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  • #46
    Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

    Originally posted by hellion View Post
    Hitler and Saddam were murdering millions of innocent people. There's a difference between fighting for justice and cold-blooded killing. What you did was wrong.
    I see. So we have established that you don't think killing per se is wrong -- there are times when it is justified to kill. Killing those who support the likes of Hitler or Saddam is justified, for example, because that is "fighting for justice"?

    See Brother Temperance's post -- while you play God and decide what is just and what isn't, we follow God himself. We can't go wrong.
    Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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    • #47
      Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

      Originally posted by Enobarbus View Post
      I see. So we have established that you don't think killing per se is wrong -- there are times when it is justified to kill. Killing those who support the likes of Hitler or Saddam is justified, for example, because that is "fighting for justice"?

      See Brother Temperance's post -- while you play God and decide what is just and what isn't, we follow God himself. We can't go wrong.
      Yeah you can. Since the bible was written by man and not god, then you're wrong on so many levels. You're following people who pretended to be god and wrote a book.
      "I do not go where the path leads. I instead create my own path ... and leave a snail trail."

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      • #48
        Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

        Originally posted by hellion View Post
        Yeah you can. Since the bible was written by man and not god, then you're wrong on so many levels. You're following people who pretended to be god and wrote a book.
        The Bible is the Inspired, Inerrant Word of God. The Bible is so obviously more than a mere book. The influence that the Bible has had on history is such that it can only be Inspired of God. The prophesies in the Bible that have come true are another indication that it is much much more than a mere book -- the return of the Jews to Israel, for example.

        No, we follow God, you make judgements based on your own perception. You are remarkably arrogant.
        Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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        • #49
          Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

          Originally posted by Enobarbus View Post
          The Bible is the Inspired, Inerrant Word of God. The Bible is so obviously more than a mere book. The influence that the Bible has had on history is such that it can only be Inspired of God. The prophesies in the Bible that have come true are another indication that it is much much more than a mere book -- the return of the Jews to Israel, for example.

          No, we follow God, you make judgements based on your own perception. You are remarkably arrogant.
          I'm arrogant? You blindly follow a book, paper and cardboard, just because you're afraid of a place that you don't even know exists! It was just driven into your mind for so long that god is real, that you have no choice but to follow mindlessly. And if you don't you'll be killed as a blasphemer! You're being mind-controlled by a world of fear. Some religion...
          "I do not go where the path leads. I instead create my own path ... and leave a snail trail."

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          • #50
            Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

            Originally posted by hellion View Post
            I'm arrogant?
            You think that you have the right to decide when it's right to kill and when it isn't. Sounds like a pretty good working definition of arrogance to me.
            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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            • #51
              Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

              Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
              You think that you have the right to decide when it's right to kill and when it isn't. Sounds like a pretty good working definition of arrogance to me.
              Uhh...you think you can kill people over the way they dress...you're just weird...
              "I do not go where the path leads. I instead create my own path ... and leave a snail trail."

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              • #52
                Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                Originally posted by hellion View Post
                Uhh...you think you can kill people over the way they dress...you're just weird...
                No, GOD tells us who to kill and who not to, and we obey! Who wouldn't?
                O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                • #53
                  Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                  Originally posted by hellion View Post
                  Killing is killing. It's wrong and immoral. Quit trying to justify your actions. You had no idea that that person was even Satanic. You took a life away! Killing isn't saving. You're disgusting.
                  But you believe that what the Godly US army is doing in Iraqi and Pakistan is quite right and justified -- even if some civilians, women and children, get killed and maimed accidentally.
                  Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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                  • #54
                    Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                    Originally posted by hellion View Post
                    Killing is killing. It's wrong and immoral. Quit trying to justify your actions. You had no idea that that person was even Satanic. You took a life away! Killing isn't saving. You're disgusting.
                    GOD has killed every thing and everyone that has ever lived. What, exactly is wrong about it?
                    Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
                    "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
                    Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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                    • #55
                      Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                      Originally posted by Pastor Al E Pistle View Post
                      GOD has killed every thing and everyone that has ever lived. What, exactly is wrong about it?
                      God didn't kill that goth, you did. It's god's right to judge, not yours. Maybe god wanted her alive. And you still took her life away. If god really wanted to kill someone, he'd use an uncureable disease or a freak accident, not you.
                      "I do not go where the path leads. I instead create my own path ... and leave a snail trail."

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                      • #56
                        Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                        Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                        No, GOD tells us who to kill and who not to, and we obey! Who wouldn't?
                        God never told you to. The people who wrote the bible did. You're following your own twisted laws.
                        "I do not go where the path leads. I instead create my own path ... and leave a snail trail."

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                        • #57
                          Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                          Originally posted by Enobarbus View Post
                          But you believe that what the Godly US army is doing in Iraqi and Pakistan is quite right and justified -- even if some civilians, women and children, get killed and maimed accidentally.
                          The US army is trying to prevent women and children from being killed. They're going after the people who kill women and children. If they didn't fight, then the innocent people would be killed, tortured, and crudely experimented on by people like Saddam. They kill when there is no other solution to stopping sadistic dictators like Hitler and Saddam. Then yet again, if the bible didn't tell people like Hitler to blindlessly persecute people such as Jews, gays, and basically anything that didn't fit the conformity or anything that couldn't be controlled, then there wouldn't be a need to stand up for justice because those people wouldn't have been misled by blatant persecutions and discrimination.
                          "I do not go where the path leads. I instead create my own path ... and leave a snail trail."

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                          • #58
                            Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                            Originally posted by hellion View Post
                            God never told you to. The people who wrote the bible did. You're following your own twisted laws.
                            "The people who wrote the Bible" wrote down exactly what God dictated. The entire story is HERE.

                            Who Will Jesus Damn?

                            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                            • #59
                              Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                              Originally posted by hellion View Post
                              The US army is trying to prevent women and children from being killed. They're going after the people who kill women and children. If they didn't fight, then the innocent people would be killed, tortured, and crudely experimented on by people like Saddam. They kill when there is no other solution to stopping sadistic dictators like Hitler and Saddam. Then yet again, if the bible didn't tell people like Hitler to blindlessly persecute people such as Jews, gays, and basically anything that didn't fit the conformity or anything that couldn't be controlled, then there wouldn't be a need to stand up for justice because those people wouldn't have been misled by blatant persecutions and discrimination.
                              Why is it that you are so willing and eager to accept the use of violence when it comes to preventing a relatively minor matter like physical harm, but when we use violence to prevent the infinitely more serious matter of harm to one's immortal soul, you get all squeamish? Why the double standard?
                              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                              God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                              • #60
                                Re: please prays for Miss.hellion

                                Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                                Why is it that you are so willing and eager to accept the use of violence when it comes to preventing a relatively minor matter like physical harm, but when we use violence to prevent the infinitely more serious matter of harm to one's immortal soul, you get all squeamish? Why the double standard?
                                Maybe because by following this book, a skewd belief, you're making the world so much worse with all your persecution and bigotry. Especially with the wars and riots. Do you really think god wanted all this? Don't you think he/she would've seen all this coming and tried to prevent it? You're creating your own Hell on earth.
                                "I do not go where the path leads. I instead create my own path ... and leave a snail trail."

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