[Empires_Fall]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

It's True Christianity™ in action, friend!

Yep sure is, ya certainly showed me a thing or two...

[GOD=life]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

Ya way to good for me...

It's True Christianity™ in action, friend!

[Empires_Fall]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

Hmm, you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you. Never mind, dear.

That's it????

O, ok I missed something.... sorry


That was as clear as mud Mrs. Rogers and Cranky Old Man. Ya way to good for me...

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

Yeah, but where dose it say "women were created to serve man."

Man has authority and dominance over them; (animals).

You are reading into things to try and justify your actions.

Hmm, you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you. Never mind, dear.

[Empires_Fall]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

Genesis 2:20-22
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

"Help meet". What do you suppose is meant by this? Think carefully before answering, and consider the following facts:

1. The LORD brought Eve to Adam just as He brought the animals to Adam;
2. Adam named the animals (before the creation of Eve), as a measure of his authority and dominance over them;
3. After the Fall, Adam named Eve (before the Fall he referred to her as "woman").

Yeah, but where dose it say "women were created to serve man."

Man has authority and dominance over them; (animals).

You are reading into things to try and justify your actions.

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

The bible doesn't even say "women were created to serve man."

Genesis 2:20-22
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

"Help meet". What do you suppose is meant by this? Think carefully before answering, and consider the following facts:

1. The LORD brought Eve to Adam just as He brought the animals to Adam;
2. Adam named the animals (before the creation of Eve), as a measure of his authority and dominance over them;
3. After the Fall, Adam named Eve (before the Fall he referred to her as "woman").

[Empires_Fall]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

So according to you "she has to do what he says" is different from "she has to serve him"? Perhaps it is time for you to pick up a dictionary, or even better, a Holy Bible!

No, not according to me. "he shall rule over thee." Is not she will serve him, or she has to do what he says. It can mean many things.

He will defend her
he will help her
he will protect her
he will guide her
ect ect

But you want it to mean one thing. It can mean many things... Check ya dictionary, nothing to do with women are to serve men. The bible doesn't even say "women were created to serve man."

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

"he shall rule over thee." Is not she will serve him

So according to you "she has to do what he says" is different from "she has to serve him"? Perhaps it is time for you to pick up a dictionary, or even better, a Holy Bible!

[Empires_Fall]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

Woman should do what we tell them to do. We are even allowed to sell them: 1 Timothy 2:11-12 "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." Matthew 18:25 "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."

"nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" Nothing to do with serve, or to act out in violence to a women.

"he shall rule over thee." Is not she will serve him.

Still no "serve". Sure allot of round about words that can mean anything. You guys want it to mean a certain thing to justify your actions.

Matthew 18:25 "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."

That also says he sold him self...Well thats what it's saying.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

The word there is "company". Not serve!?! You have put serve there to justify your actions. Not even in the bible dose it say "women were created to serve man"

Woman should do what we tell them to do. We are even allowed to sell them: 1 Timothy 2:11-12 "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." Matthew 18:25 "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."

[Empires_Fall]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

No, God created Adam first. Then, to keep Adam company, God created Eve. So, women were created to serve men. This is also reiterated throughout the Bible.

The word there is "company". Not serve!?! You have put serve there to justify your actions.

Not even in the bible dose it say "women were created to serve man"


But anyway you guys are doing a great job...

[GOD=life]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

or because her too arms were chopped off

You have some sick thoughts, friends.

but If god created us at his image therefor, man and woman are both god's image. So both should be equal.

No, God created Adam first. Then, to keep Adam company, God created Eve. So, women were created to serve men. This is also reiterated throughout the Bible.

Secondly, do we use "She" to refer to God? No. We use "He".

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't treat women with the respect they (do) deserve. She should just know her place. It makes her happy.

[Ziggy21]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

If you were to cook food for your wife 1 day because she was too sick to cook it or because her too arms were chopped off, and you burn her food, would she get the right to hit you ? I beleive no, why arent man and woman equal, i mean im new to all of this so im looking for answers, but If god created us at his image therefor, man and woman are both god's image. So both should be equal. Is that wrong ?

[GOD=life]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

I'd like to really clear this up: we don't beat our wives to hurt them, we beat them to help them. Sometimes they just won't listen or are hysterical. What do you expect us to do? Reason with a hysterical women? A proper slap resolves the situation quickly and everyone is happy.

Let's review:

1. The wife is happy because she knows she has a morally, mentally and physically strong husband who will be a strong role model for her heterosexual children.
2. The husband is happy because he can offer firm guidance to his wife if and when necessary without being cruel. He also enjoys the respect and fear of his wife, which helps him feel like a man.
3. The children are happy because they have clear role models and can distinguish between a man and a woman. This will help them incredibly later in life and avoid sinful and dangerous lifestyles.
4. The marriage remains strong and committed, which makes God very happy. The family will be blessed for generations to come.

So what's the big deal? A True Christian man isn't cruel, he just helps his wife be the best wife she can be.

Now I understand that there is confusion among atheists, because in atheist circles, it's normal to put eachother in chains, wear scary leather masks, and use whips on eachother.

That, my friends, is beating your wife out of lust, which is completely WRONG. Naturally, when you mix in lust, the beating will be much more severe. Then again, atheist women appear to enjoy this kind of treatment for some reason.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: when is it OK to beat a woman?

Doesn't say anywhere about violence

So you can read, great, let's try to do something with that. The Bible tells us exactly what the role of women is.

Woman are property, they should be silent, man rule over them and according to Jesus if needed we are even allowed to sell them. Women are here to serve us, that's it. So I assure you violence is allowed, and sometimes even needed, if women forget about their role!

1 Timothy 2:11-12 "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." Matthew 18:25 "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."