[Born Again Bob]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Dear Brother,

You sound like a real nutter to me.

Of course! He doesn't want to be a eunuch!

Yours in Him,
BAB

[wasd1984]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Masturbation is the most disgusting sin. It is more sin in one:

1. Adulery: "That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matt. 5,28)
2. Murder: this is obvious. It is killing many unborn child.
3. Stealing: sexual pleasure is ONLY FOR MARRIED people.
4. Illegitimacy: I have no right to pleasure myself, because my body is not mine: "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own." (1Cor 6,19)
5. Wasting: "when he [Onan] went in unto his brother"s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother." (Genesis 38,9)
6. Rebellion: "The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife." Masturbator rebels against these "powers".

[True Disciple]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

This is the real sin. Judging others and pride are greater sins than masturbation or unclean thoughts.

Friend, you clearly don't know a thing about the Bible. We are allowed to judge others:

Leviticus 19:15:
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Leviticus 19:17:
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Psalm 37:30:
The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9:
Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

Isaiah 1:17:
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Isaiah 56:1:
Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.

John 7:24:
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:14-16:
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

1 Corinthians 6:1-6:
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

1 Timothy 5:20:
Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:1-5:
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Hebrews 3:12-13:
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Hebrews 10:24-25:
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

And we are allowed to boast a little about ourselves:

Isaiah 61:6:
But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

...cutting myself with scissors or axe is nonsense. I am not crazy.

We are only trying to lead you down the Path to Salvation© with the Word of God. Are you saying God's Word is nonsense?

The Holy Bible (KJV) teaches us that castration is a way to be accepted into Heaven. Are you saying that God is crazy? Are you saying that Jesus is crazy? Are you saying that the Holy Bible (KJV) is crazy nonsense? Do you believe that you are smarter than God? Well if so, you are going to Hell. I am not judging you, but obviously, you are condemning yourself with your arrogance against God, and you know it.

I gave up my testes for Jesus and nothing has brought me closer to Him. I'm no longer tempted to masturbate, nor do I lust after women. I am finally free of sin. Cutting off your testicles is a sacrifice, but a worthy one for God's love and eternal salvation. God gave you His Son Jesus. Are you saying that your testicles are worth more than Jesus? Are you saying that God is supposed to let you into Heaven, even though you covet your testicles, in spite of His sacrificing His ONLY Son? Is that what you are saying? Do you grasp your testicles like a greedy sinner, unwilling to sacrifice them to the Lord for eternal life?

(Matthew 19:12) For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from [their] mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive [it], let him receive [it].

It is obvious to me and everyone who reads your posts, including God, that you are a coward and are unwilling to do what is necessary for entrance into heaven. I am not judging you, but you may have to choose between keeping your testosterone producing testes and going to Heaven. I've shown you how to do it, now grab those scissors and go at it, before you lose your nerve and are forever cursed with a life of impure thoughts that lead you into the devil's game of masturbation and eternal damnation. Don't you want to go to Heaven?

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Please, forgive me , I'm so sorry.
But, why am I called to become eunuch ?
Many other got married. Why the Lord don't want to give me a wife ?

[Tea_Party_Minister]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Sir, are you even a Christian? Are you being serious? These True Christians here are starting to doubt your sincerity. Don't waste the time of good God-fearing people.

Why should you cut off your testicles? Let me tell you:

First, you said it was the only way for you to be pure, just as it was the only way for me to be pure.

Then, God spoke to me, as he speaks to all godly eunuchs and True Christians and He said:

"This man will not enter through the gates of Heaven with his testes. If he is to enter Heaven he must be a eunuch."

The Lord has spoken.

No more excuses.

Get the job done, and move on with your life.

[True Disciple]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Please, forgive me , I'm so sorry.
But, why am I called to become eunuch ?
Many other got married. Why the Lord don't want to give me a wife ?

We can't say, friend, only God knows. But don't be too sad! Remember, Paul never married either, and look what he accomplished! Maybe God wants you to suffer for the preaching of the cross as well, while converting filthy heathens!

[True Disciple]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Then, God spoke to me, as he speaks to all godly eunuchs and True Christians and He said:

"This man will not enter through the gates of Heaven with his testes. If he is to enter Heaven he must be a eunuch."

The Lord has spoken.

I admire your zeal, Brother TPM, but you seem to have omitted Chapter and Verse here. Where in the Bible can I find this? It seems new to me.

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Sir, are you even a Christian? Are you being serious? These True Christians here are starting to doubt your sincerity. Don't waste the time of good God-fearing people.

Why should you cut off your testicles? Let me tell you:

First, you said it was the only way for you to be pure, just as it was the only way for me to be pure.

Then, God spoke to me, as he speaks to all godly eunuchs and True Christians and He said:

"This man will not enter through the gates of Heaven with his testes. If he is to enter Heaven he must be a eunuch."

The Lord spoke to you about ME ? How ?

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

We can't say, friend, only God knows. But don't be too sad! Remember, Paul never married either, and look what he accomplished! Maybe God wants you to suffer for the preaching of the cross as well, while converting filthy heathens!

Preaching and teaching about the Cross is my dream.

I would do it: cutting of my testicles, but I don't dare without medical help.
Perhaps I lose much blood, the wound may get infection and it is deadly.
If I am not as good as you in cutting, I may get serious problem.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

No one is telling you what to do, except for God. I'm not telling you to cut your testicles off. God is. It is not my job to instruct you. I'm not your father, but God is.

This is a unique opportunity for you, Andrew: God is calling you and He is giving you one last chance to choose between Satan and God

Do you not own a pair of scissors or a knife of any kind? The bus to Heaven is waiting for you to get on. It's not going to wait forever. Your short life is short and your eternal life is eternal. You'll be regretting your doubt soon enough.

Countless doubters were punished in the Bible (KJV) whenever God called upon his children to make a sacrifice. He is angered when you deny him and He always takes much more than he originally asked of you. Ergo, he may take much more than your testes if you do not give them freely to Him. Perhaps you will lose you sight or your other senses, Perhaps you will lose you ability to walk and possibly much worse. The Pharaoh comes to mind:

(Exodus 13:15) And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let [his slaves] go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem.

As you can see. God gets very angry when he is denied a simple sacrifice. There are too many examples of people in the Holy Bible (KJV) who were asked to sacrifice something for God's love. Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Abraham, and the list continues on every page and God is NOT going to change for YOU! YOU must change for God!

...Andrew, listen. God has instructed me to keep faith in you. I haven't given up hope. See this saintly person in the picture? This is a eunuch. This person is going to Heaven.

You could be like this eunuch, with a heart filled with love and faith and a mind free of impurities and evil. The devil has no way to get to the man in this picture. A eunuch will surely enter Heaven because he has given up the sins of the flesh. He serves God 24/7 and so can you!

Let us pray:

Dear God. Please guide this man on his Path to Salvation. Come into his heart and mind and clear his evil thoughts and perverted feelings. He needs your help, Lord. Give him the strength to sacrifice the unnecessary lust-producing testes between his legs, so he can fully see your glory and walk in your light.

Amen

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

The Bible sais: "... at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established."

Others say same as Tea Party Minister ?

[Born Again Bob]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Dear Friend,

When you quote the Bible, give chapter and verse.

And we've all been telling you the same thing. This is getting tedious. Do it or be damned.

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Dear Friend,

When you quote the Bible, give chapter and verse.

And we've all been telling you the same thing. This is getting tedious. Do it or be damned.

Yours in Him,
BAB

Sorry, I forgot. It is from Deuteronomy 19,15.

Dear Bob.
I apologize, but I don't understand something.

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree. (Gal 3,13)

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. (Romans 3,24 and 28)

And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16,30,31)

Bob. I apologize if this is tedious. Please, explain this: why the Bible sais, the only way to Heaven is believing in Jesus Christ. And there is not any act that can save us from Hell.
If the castration is the only way to me to Heaven, I want to do it. But these verses say other.

Please, sorry. But I love serious questions

[Born Again Bob]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Sigh...

Belief is enough to be Saved, but how do you know you have the right beliefs?

Matthew 7:20: Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Because you seem unwilling to give up your fruits to the Lord, I cast you into eternal darkness.

Revelation 3:16: So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

<---- spue! spue! spue!