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  • Jeb Stuart Thurmond
    Didn't write the Bible, just obeys it
     
    • Jun 2007
    • 6572

    #1

    Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

    This article speaks for itself. I know everybody hates politicians, but even they deserve their second amendment rights. Maybe if they had guns they wouldn't have to be forced to suffer under government healthcare, and would be able to have the patient-insurence company relationships that the rest of us enjoy.
    Isn't it time to dismantle the metal detectors, send the guards at the doors away and allow Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights by being free to carry their firearms into the nation's Capitol building?

    ...Why would freedom-loving lawmakers want to hide behind...metal detectors? Shouldn't NRA members be outraged that Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the seat of our democracy?

    Congress seems to think that gun restrictions are for wimps. It voted earlier this year to allow people to bring their weapons into national parks, and pro-gun legislators have pushed for the right to carry in taverns, colleges and workplaces. Shouldn't Congress set an example in its own workplace?

    So why not let Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., pack a weapon on the Senate floor? Thune is the author of an amendment that would have allowed gun owners who had valid permits to carry concealed weapons into any state, even states with more restrictive gun laws. The amendment got 58 votes last week, two short of the 60 it needed to pass.

    Judging by what Thune said, he'd clearly feel safer if everyone in the Capitol could carry a gun. ``Law-abiding individuals have the right to self-defense, especially because the Supreme Court has consistently found that police have no constitutional obligation to protect individuals from other individuals,'' he said. I guess Thune doesn't think those guards and the Capitol Police have any obligation to protect him.

    He went on: ``The benefits of conceal and carry extend to more than just the individuals who actually carry the firearms. Since criminals are unable to tell who is and who is not carrying a firearm just by looking at a potential victim, they are less likely to commit a crime when they fear they may come in direct contact with an individual who is armed.''

    In other words, keeping guns out of the Capitol makes all our elected officials far less safe. If just a few senators had weapons, the criminals wouldn't know which ones were armed, and all senators would be safer, right? Isn't that better than highly intrusive gun control -- i.e., keeping people with guns out of the Capitol in the first place?

    ``Additionally,'' Thune said helpfully, ``research shows that when unrestricted conceal and carry laws are passed, not only does it benefit those who are armed, but it also benefits others around them such as children.''

    This is a fantastic opportunity. Arming all our legislators would make it safer for children, so senators could feel much more secure bringing their kids into the Capitol. This would promote family values and might even reduce the number of extramarital affairs.

    During the debate, Sen. David Vitter, R-La., quoted a constituent who told him: ``When my family and I go out at night, it makes me feel safer just knowing I am able to have my concealed weapon.''

    Why shouldn't Vitter feel equally safe in the Capitol? Why should he have to go out on the streets to carry a gun?

    The pro-gun folks love their studies. Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., offered this one: ``A study for the Department of Justice found 40 percent of felons had not committed certain crimes because they feared the potential victims would be armed.''

    That doesn't tell us much about the other 60 percent, but what the heck? If it's good enough for Barrasso, let the good senator introduce the amendment to allow concealed carry in the Capitol.
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  • H. Montague Worthington
    True Christian™ Entrepreneur
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    • Sep 2006
    • 2716

    #2
    Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

    If the passengers had guns on 9/11, the World Trade Center would still be standing.

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    • Serenity-Millennium
      Lying fluffy-bunny false Christian,
      Unsaved trash
      • Jun 2009
      • 472

      #3
      Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

      I don't know, I don't think anyone should have guns. Like, nobody at all. Not even for hunting, sport, police officers or armies or anything like that. I don't even think we need police or armies. But then, who am I to judge?

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      • Whip of Japheth
        Forum Member
        Forum Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 161

        #4
        Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

        This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
        Adolf Hitler
        Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment, and will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest him, he shall be put to death: only be strong and of a good courage.
        Joshua 1:18

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        • Repentant Liberal
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          Forum Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 103

          #5
          Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

          The founding fathers wanted us to have guns to protect us from an oppressive government, should one arise in the future. So why would Congress NOT unanimously pass this resolution!

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          • Trent Harvey, Jr.
            Ex-hero, almost honorably discharged
            True Christian™
            • Jul 2007
            • 722

            #6
            Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

            Originally posted by Jeb Thurmond View Post
            Maybe if they had guns they wouldn't have to be forced to suffer under government healthcare, and would be able to have the patient-insurence company relationships that the rest of us enjoy.
            Don't even get me started on government healthcare - soldiers have socialist healthcare, with a bureaucrat between us and our medivac helicopter. Now, I know there aren't many private medivac helicopters in Iraq, but if we remove the unfair competition from government medivac helicopters, enterpreneurs will quickly provide them.

            After all, who would you rather doing battlefield triage - some grunt who just signed up because he heard Tupac was a Marine - or a trustworthy private insurence corporation like A.I.G.?
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            • Jeb Stuart Thurmond
              Didn't write the Bible, just obeys it
               
              • Jun 2007
              • 6572

              #7
              Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

              A better title for this thread would "Second Amendment rights are gone, everywhere!" Meet Charllis McAfee, tea party attendant, and Republican Comittee Member arrested for nothing more than putting a gun to the head of some (probably mexican) forclosed loser:


              MERIDIAN- Challis E. McAffee, 33, was charged with felony aggravated assault after police say he pulled a handgun on a resident whose home he told police he was photographing as part of a foreclosure investigation.

              Police say McAffee was shooting photographs at 5 p.m. Tuesday at the home - in the 2200 block of Ditch Creek Street, near the Chinden Boulevard/Linder Road neighborhood - when a resident came outside and began questioning what McAffee was doing.
              A verbal argument ensued which ended when the resident said McAffee pulled out a handgun and pointed it at the resident, police say. McAffee is a member of the Ada County Republican Central Committee. The charge of felony aggravated assault is punishable by up to five years in prison.

              Republicans accuse the forclosed loser of attacking him:

              "I'm unarmed, I'm an old man," Lutes, 51, told The Associated Press on Thursday. "I'm trying to find out why he's taking pictures of my house. I said, 'Knock on my door, let me know what you want.' Then, I think he's reaching for his business card and he pulls out a concealed weapon and I think he's going to blow my head off."
              Tony Schewmaker, the Wells Fargo contractor who hired McAffee, knew him through libertarian-leaning groups such as We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education....
              "Apparently, we can't use a gun in our own protection," Schewmaker told the AP. "You can have it to look pretty. But if somebody is attempting to attack you, you can't pull it out of the holster. That's what I'm gathering from this."
              What has America come to when we can't stick up people for failing to fully pay their mortgages? You signed a contract, you promised to pay, you're lucky you still have your kneecaps!
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              • demontroll
                Unsaved trash, repeat offender troll
                 
                • Sep 2009
                • 29

                #8
                Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

                You are not permitted to carry firearms into goverment buildings. Thats the law, always has been.

                There are dozens upon dozens of establishments and situations where you are not permitted to bring a weapon.
                It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.
                For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.
                Ecclesiastes 7:5-6

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                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29453

                  #9
                  Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

                  Originally posted by demontroll View Post
                  You are not permitted to carry firearms into goverment buildings. Thats the law, always has been.

                  There are dozens upon dozens of establishments and situations where you are not permitted to bring a weapon.
                  Your statement has nearly nothing to do with this thread. We had a Godly fellow, attempting to earn a meager income to sustain his family when out of the blue, a psychotic man attacked him. This poor fellow ends up being the bad guy for gingerly trying to protect himself and his employment.
                  You are a typical liebral trying to 'spread the wealth' by taking the Hamburger Helper from this Godly mans children's mouths. Shame on you!
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                  • Jeb Stuart Thurmond
                    Didn't write the Bible, just obeys it
                     
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 6572

                    #10
                    Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

                    Originally posted by demontroll View Post
                    You are not permitted to carry firearms into goverment buildings. Thats the law, always has been.

                    There are dozens upon dozens of establishments and situations where you are not permitted to bring a weapon.
                    Are you trying to debate me? That is my whole point - the law prevents us from carrying firearms into government buildings! This is unconstitutional and must be changed.
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                    • H. Montague Worthington
                      True Christian™ Entrepreneur
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 2716

                      #11
                      Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

                      It's a sad, sad day in America when Godly white patriots are BANNED from carrying an arsenal of weapons into government buildings. The founding fathers are spinning around in their graves.

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                      • Bobby-Joe
                        Landover Security Superviser
                        Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
                        NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
                        True Christian™
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 18405

                        #12
                        Re: Second Amendment rights mean nothing in the Capitol!

                        Originally posted by H. Montague Worthington View Post
                        It's a sad, sad day in America when Godly white patriots are BANNED from carrying an arsenal of weapons into government buildings. The founding fathers are spinning around in their graves.
                        GLORY Brother Worthington; George Washington would not even admit anyone into the WhiteHouse unless they were carrying a brace of pistols. Andrew Jackson dueled during cabinet meetings. The Left has gone to far int his country! Bring back our right to bear arms in government buildings.

                        Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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