[Marshall]

Re: Guns thread

Swords are for French people and women.
Only an idiot carries a sword into battle.
You see what good they did the Nips during the Great Defeat.

[Hitoshi]

Re: Guns thread

Swords are for French people and women.
Only an idiot carries a sword into battle.
You see what good they did the Nips during the Great Defeat.

sorry little girl this thread is for man only. you need go play with dolly and springfield weapon in your room while adult are talk okay.

[Marshall]

Re: Guns thread

Look here slit-eyes, swords and pig stickers went out after Jesus invented firearms.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Guns thread

I'm afraid I've never been, nor can I forsee myself becoming, a Christian. I've looked at the track record for all 4 of the major theistic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Hinduism) and have come to the conclusion that while religion may help some individual people, organized belief in one or more deities of any kind is the single worst thing to happen to mankind.

A small sample of Christianity's track record:
392CE (Common Era, for those who think Google is for the devil): Theodesius (Roman Emperor) orders the destruction of all non-Christian places of worship currently in use
435: Being a non-Christian (Jews were generally tolerated) was declared a capital crime in Rome
1209: An Army under orders from the Pope begins rampaging through Southern France killing both non-Christians and Christians who held "heretical beliefs". When asked how to determine which residents were "True Christians" they were told essentially to kill them all and let God sort them.
1095-1272: The Crusades (lots of them)
1184-mid1800s: The Inquisition(s)
Protestant Reformation Violence
"Bloody" Mary I attempts to recovnvert England to Catholicism from Aglicanism by putting high-level religious leaders to death
1930s: The Holocaust (not religiously lead but quite religiously motivated)
General persecution of every other religion
General persecution of other sects of Christianity
General persecution of homosexuals
General persecution of witches
(its important to note that "persecution of" includes vandalism, violence, and murder)

How can you look at a track list like that and still want to get on Christ's bad side?

sorry little girl this thread is for man only. you need go play with dolly and springfield weapon in your room while adult are talk okay.

The godless yellow heathens: bringing swords to nuclear wars since 1945.

[Atheist_Sinner]

Re: Guns thread

How can you look at a track list like that and still want to get on Christ's bad side.

I fail to see any evidence that Christ or God had anything to do with any of those. I see some Roman Emperors, a lot of Popes, random congregationalists, priests and preachers, and a couple Kings and Queens but to the best of my knowledge Jesus himself was never personally spotted at any of those events. I truly believe a 30-ish Jew, possibly performing miracles and likely giving sermons, would have drawn some attention at most of those. I'd have given him a 50/50 chance of either being worshiped or stoned for witchcraft and heresy if he did appear but either way someone would have mentioned it if he carried the torches to the burnings, clubs to the beatings, and swords/guns/bombs to the battles and murders.

I pity the holy of any religion for it is through of eternity spent elsewhere that many otherwise good men justify turning the Earth into Hell.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Guns thread

I fail to see any evidence that Christ or God had anything to do with any of those. I see some Roman Emperors, a lot of Popes, random congregationalists, priests and preachers, and a couple Kings and Queens but to the best of my knowledge Jesus himself was never personally spotted at any of those events. I truly believe a 30-ish Jew, possibly performing miracles and likely giving sermons, would have drawn some attention at most of those. I'd have given him a 50/50 chance of either being worshiped or stoned for witchcraft and heresy if he did appear but either way someone would have mentioned it if he carried the torches to the burnings, clubs to the beatings, and swords/guns/bombs to the battles and murders.

I pity the holy of any religion for it is through of eternity spent elsewhere that many otherwise good men justify turning the Earth into Hell.

Well aren't you the original one. Try to pretend you don't believe in God all you like, you still can't get around the fact that the servants of the Lord are VASTLY better at slaughtering their opponents than your drugged-up existentialist buddies are, so why do you choose to pick the losing side?

[Nobar King]

Re: Guns thread

Hopefully anyone interested in guns will pray for the US Supreme Court at least five Supreme Court Justices so that they will overturn DC's restrictive gun law.

D.C. Wants High Court To Hear Gun Case
By David Nakamura
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 17, 2007

The District will ask the Supreme Court to uphold its strict 30-year handgun ban, setting up what legal experts said could be a test of the Second Amendment with broad ramifications.

The high court has not ruled on the Second Amendment protection of the right to keep and bear arms since 1939. But at a morning news conference yesterday, Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) and Attorney General Linda Singer said they expect the court to hear a case they called crucial to public safety.

In a 2 to 1 decision in March, a panel of judges for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled that the city's prohibition against residents keeping handguns in their homes is unconstitutional. In May, the full appeals court declined a petition from the city to reconsider the panel's decision.

Some gun control advocates have cautioned that a defeat in the Supreme Court could lead to tough gun laws being overturned in major cities, including New York, Chicago and Detroit. Fenty said the District had no choice but to fight because more guns in homes could lead to increases in violent crime and deadly accidents.

"The handgun ban has saved many lives and will continue to do so if it remains in effect," Fenty said. "Wherever I go, the response from the residents is, 'Mayor Fenty, you've got to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court.' "

Gun rights advocates welcomed the chance to take the fight to the high court. A central question the D.C. case poses is whether the Second Amendment protects an individual's rights to keep and bear arms.

Experts say gun rights advocates have never had a better chance for a major Second Amendment victory, because a significant number of justices on the Supreme Court have indicated a preference for the individual-rights interpretation.

"Any accurate, unbiased reading of American history is going to come down to this being an individual right," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association. "To deny people the right to own a firearm in their home for personal protection is simply out of step with the Constitution."

The city's three-decade-old gun ban was challenged by six D.C. residents -- backed by the libertarian Cato Institute -- who said they wanted to keep guns in their homes for self-defense. The District's law bars all handguns unless they were registered before 1976; it was passed that year to try to curb gun violence, but it has come under attack in Congress and in the courts.

The Second Amendment states: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The last Supreme Court ruling on the issue, in Miller v. the United States, is considered by many to define the right to bear arms as being given to militias, not to individuals.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan dismissed the residents' lawsuit -- Parker v. the District of Columbia-- several years ago, ruling that the amendment was tailored to membership in a militia.

But the appeals panel ruled in March that the District has a right to regulate and require registration of firearms but not to ban them in homes. The ruling also struck down a section of the law that required owners of registered guns, including shotguns, to disassemble them or use trigger locks.

"We're very pleased the case will go to the Supreme Court," said Alan Gura, an attorney for the residents. "We believe it will hear the case and will affirm that the Bill of Rights does protect the individual."

Singer said she will receive pro bono legal assistance from several high-profile constitutional law experts, including former acting solicitor general Walter E. Dellinger III. She called the city's handgun laws "reasonable" and said many handguns are used in illegal activities.

"This is not a law which takes away the rights to keep and bear arms," Dellinger said. "It regulates one kind of weapon: handguns."

Singer said she will ask for a 30-day extension to file the District's appeal with the Supreme Court, which would push the deadline to Sept. 5. The city's handgun laws will remain in effect throughout the appeal, Singer said.

"If the U.S. Supreme Court decides to hear this case, it could produce the most significant Second Amendment ruling in our history," Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement. "If the U.S. Supreme Court follows the words of the U.S. Constitution and the Court's own precedents, it should reverse the Appeals Court ruling and allow the District's law to stand."

I say the more guns the better. People should be allowed to protect their families and homes from assault, and what better way than an automatic pistol? Hopefully it will cause the home invasion assault criminals will think twice before breaking in.

[Atheist_Sinner]

Re: Guns thread

Well aren't you the original one. Try to pretend you don't believe in God all you like, you still can't get around the fact that the servants of the Lord are VASTLY better at slaughtering their opponents than your drugged-up existentialist buddies are, so why do you choose to pick the losing side?

Whether they are better or worse has little to do with it. Seldom will you find a religious minority anywhere that is effective at slaughtering their opponents (For reference I give you the word of presumably some of your fellow believers http://www.christianpersecution.info/ . Claims of Christian persecution in the US are almost unilaterally ridiculous and boil down to the refusal to accept the same restrictions placed on either all other groups and/or all other individuals. Outside Europe and N. America, however, Christianity doesn't seem to be so much VASTLY better at slaughtering their opponents. If you'd bother to look at my short list, you would notice that other than the Crusades vs. Muslims (some temporary victories and even more losses) Christianity has been a majority population and persecutes the minority (usually other Christians).

I challenge you to find examples of a long-term religiously motivated conflict that has fallen in the favor of a minority group of Christians. I'm looking for some real, verifiable history and not a quote from the inaccurately translated KJV Bible.


As for the accusation of choosing the "wrong side" I would make the same accusation of any religious group consisting of more than one person. I've already stated my opinion and individual reasoning behind my belief that the world would be a better place without you. I refer to the collective you, the Christian group as a whole, in this case. I have nothing against you as an individual for I believe that were you given the opportunity to exercise individual judgment and self-determination that you would have been capable of working to improve the condition of your fellow humans regardless of whether they resemble you in appearance or beliefs.

Hopefully anyone interested in guns will pray for the US Supreme Court at least five Supreme Court Justices so that they will overturn DC's restrictive gun law.

I say the more guns the better. People should be allowed to protect their families and homes from assault, and what better way than an automatic pistol? Hopefully it will cause the home invasion assault criminals will think twice before breaking in.

Translted into Christian my reply becomes: "amen brother".

[Dwayne DeKalb]

Re: Guns thread

these are good weapon for little girl. real man is carry yari or katana okay.

Hitoshi is right. It requires skill to wield a sword. Any fool can fire a gun.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Guns thread

Hitoshi is right. It requires skill to wield a sword. Any fool can fire a gun.

Hitoshi is a fool, and so are you, hippie.

While he's twirling his sword around like a circus clown, I'll be taking him out from 200 yards away, unseen.

Jesus will decide who's the fool.

[Nobar King]

Re: Guns thread

And people accuse us of not being able to adopt new technology! Hitoshi is just another nerd jap who grew up watching MaximusPrime and wants to relive his countries' failed military history by dressing up in robot armor and playing with bamboo dancing sticks.

[Al_Sharpton]

Re: Guns thread

As a powerful black minister spreading the baptist word. I never leave home with out my Kimber Custom Gold Match II.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Guns thread

I carry a 1911A1 Springfield.

Everywhere.

Sorry, I misread that. When you said "A1" I channeled a 1903 Springfield.

I carry a Smith SS M1911. Everywhere. Since my eyes got wonky I put a Crimson Trace on it.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Guns thread

As a powerful black minister spreading the baptist word. I never leave home with out my Kimber Custom Gold Match II.

I have a new Kimber Eclipse PRO II fired at the factory for combat reliability after factory nights, ambis, grips.

Want to trade for a new Glock 21 Slimline hi-cap, picatenny rail, or a S&W custom shop M&P in '45. We can negotiate.

[Al_Sharpton]

Re: Guns thread

I have a new Kimber Eclipse PRO II fired at the factory for combat reliability after factory nights, ambis, grips.

Mmm. I almost bought the Eclipse PRO II, but the Gold was the only Kimber covered by my security plan. Which also happens to be on loan from the Secret Service so I could never trade it.

Ps. Does Outdoor World carry 10mm ACP?