[MasterPancake]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

My sister has spent many hours playing this game.

As of yet, it has not affected her behavior.

She has also played various Bethesda Softworks games such as, Brink, The Elder Scrolls III, Fallout New Vegas. Which Fallout New Vegas has gambling, Prostitution, Drug Use, Alcohol use and Such things called "Mods" That modify your game some of which is a mod that makes your role player FULLY NUDE!!.

There is a Character in this game that is A Homosexual and Will follow you around while you have mis-adventures in the "Mojave Wasteland".

She recently acquired a homosexual friend and EVERYONE is okay with it.
This "Game" Is a Disgrace of the American Race.

She is an atheist. She told me the last time I saw her.

What should I do?

How can I convince her that this is the wrong way to go?

[Lord Astaroth]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

When I play Oblivion I enjoy playing as the Dremora race, which are basically the demons of Tamriel in Oblivion. It's quite fun slaughtering Christians with my enchanted longsword that makes their bodies explode on impact.

[Rev Leroy Jenkins]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

When I play Oblivion I enjoy playing as the Dremora race, which are basically the demons of Tamriel in Oblivion. It's quite fun slaughtering Christians with my enchanted longsword that makes their bodies explode on impact.

Aren't you a nerd!

[Christian Refugee]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

There is even a mod that let you have sex, this game is a great tutorial to go to HELL!!

I found out that one of my sons played it, I make him burn the game, I'm not even letting this happen again. I would still be punishing him if he wasn't dead.

[Riley O'Brien]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Then explain why J.K. Rowling wrote a series of manuals with the sole purpose of turning children away from Jesus and toward witchcraft.

Case closed.

There soul purpose was to provide entertainment and to use her skills with writing to generate income to live of off. You people don't have any amagination at all I have played games that if you think Harry Potter is bad would probably make you puke I do not worship the devil simply because a book had magic in it nor any game. A game does not influence people to the degree you think they do after playing games such as Grand Theft Auto did I go out and shoot people? No thats wrong and any person who thinks otherwise clearly has brain damage and is likely to do such activities in the first place. Also the bible says that all we have to do to go to heaven is to believe that Jesus died for our sins so if you do believe that things like this do not matter because works do not effect your forgiveness by god. So suck it up buttercup, cause we've all sinned and we're all guna some time in the future so might as well take your chances and play a FICTION (not real) game (not real) with spells (that are not real) and that no one in their right mind would try to copy anyways.

[Riley O'Brien]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

I nor do any other True Christians™, use 'religion as a means of control'. I follow the KJV Bible and obey secular law. I follow them both to the letter with no deviation. If deviation were allowed, the Bible and secular law would state something like "Follow this rule, if you want", which would make the rule or law ridiculous. If the speed limit is 65, it means you cannot exceed 65. It does not mean the speed limit is 65 unless there are no cops around, then you can go as fast as you want. Society has rules intended to keep man from acting like animals.

HUmans I believe women are included in our race, correct? ARE in fact animals

[Riley O'Brien]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

God doesn't want to "make it friendly for everyone." Let me tell you a little story.


Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins --captive girl children virgins! Numbers 31:1-54

God plays for keeps, boy.

thats pritty mental...

[Ben]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Greetings. I would like to explain a few things.

Now the first thing is that why the hate? It's just a video game, a game rated T for teen, meaning that little kids should not get their hands on this game. This also means that if the person indeed is a teen, and a Christian, he should realize that everything in this game is no real, and it should not sway his beliefs.

You can pick various "races" for your character, including several demonic looking characters called "elves". With their pointed ears and eerie non-human appearances, it allows children to pretend they are a demon themselves.

Now please take into account the fact that it's a game in a real universe, a universe which the game makers have crafted to be enjoyed, not worshiped.

The game is chockful of blasphemous magic and witchcraft.

My argument for the previous quote applies to this one aswel.

The game makes no mention of God or Jesus Christ, instead it pushes a mythology of "Nine gods".

I shall use the same argument again.

You can do quests for these demons called "Daedra". By doing these quests, these demons reward you. This tells our children that by serving demons they will get rewarded.

As I said earlier, this game is not aimed at children, it's aimed at people who are old enough, and smart enough, to make their own decisions, teens.

I shall say again, this game is not made for children. Also, this speaks against you, in your post, you come off as a close-minded person, a person who takes everything that differs from your own religion for plasphemy. What are you trying to accomplish with this? Right now you're coming off as a closed community, that despises and condemes everything other than it's own. I have Christian friends, and they're good people, and good friends. I cannot believe and a person that smart (meaning my friend) is a part of a religion that has this close-minded people. You are giving a bad name to Christians in my eyes.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Greetings. I would like to explain a few things.

Now the first thing is that why the hate? It's just a video game, a game rated T for teen, meaning that little kids should not get their hands on this game. This also means that if the person indeed is a teen, and a Christian, he should realize that everything in this game is no real, and it should not sway his beliefs.

Now please take into account the fact that it's a game in a real universe, a universe which the game makers have crafted to be enjoyed, not worshiped.

My argument for the previous quote applies to this one aswel.

I shall use the same argument again.

As I said earlier, this game is not aimed at children, it's aimed at people who are old enough, and smart enough, to make their own decisions, teens.

I shall say again, this game is not made for children. Also, this speaks against you, in your post, you come off as a close-minded person, a person who takes everything that differs from your own religion for plasphemy. What are you trying to accomplish with this? Right now you're coming off as a closed community, that despises and condemes everything other than it's own. I have Christian friends, and they're good people, and good friends. I cannot believe and a person that smart (meaning my friend) is a part of a religion that has this close-minded people. You are giving a bad name to Christians in my eyes.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Cenobite]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Wow, for people who claim to be the leaders in morality, you sure are violent. The religious extremest are among some of the most violent people ever conceived.

Without religion, you'd still have good people doing good things, and you'd still have bad people doing bad things. However to make good people do bad things requires religion. In case you haven't figured it out yet, I am atheist.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Wow, for people who claim to be the leaders in morality, you sure are violent. The religious extremest are among some of the most violent people ever conceived.

Without religion, you'd still have good people doing good things, and you'd still have bad people doing bad things. However to make good people do bad things requires religion. In case you haven't figured it out yet, I am atheist.

Then you certainly aren't welcome here.

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

[Gamer123]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Forgive me for I am but a humble gamer, merely trying to survive in this world....

But I mean c'mon, is this real?!?!?!

Do you seriously think this game is "Evil"?

I am a gamer, I play many games, be they FPS (first person shooter), strategy or RPG and YET, I still consider myself to high moral values. I will not hurt a person, I would not kill a person, in fact I would say I follow more of your laws than most Christians seem do! I definitely have a good grip on reality, gaming as in no way whatsoever effected my ability to tell what is real and what isn't, unlike some of you obviously.

You may come up with examples like: "Oh, these 2 kids killed someone because of what they saw in a videogame!", and yes, they may well have done, but surely this is such a small percentage the millions that play these games. I would guess that people of this mentality would commit crimes with our without games.

I can bring up MANY more examples of Christianity (and nigh on every other religion) causing much more pain and suffering than these so called "evil" games.

In one of your posts you claim that this game is evil, yet Bob's gun shop is not (page 13, near the bottom). So your saying that a game played for fun is more dangerous than a freaking gun?!?!?! A people can (and do) use guns to kill, I couldn't kill you with this game. I'd be more influenced for the worst if I held a gun than if I played a few hours of Oblivion!

The worst thing is that you claim that these games harm impressionable children, and you are right, they are impressionable. So what do you do?? You take these impressionable children, and you do exactly what you condemn these games for doing, you impression upon them your views, you brain wash them, you give them no chance to see what the world is really like.

I'm assuming this post will be deleted; I hardly expect you to read my views and actually think about it, that much is obviously from your already closed minded approaches to life. I very much hope you will read this though and do not delete it, I always like to have a chat with your kind of people .

With all my love,
Ellis

[GOD=life]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Forgive me for I am but a humble gamer, merely trying to survive in this world....

Wow, that sounds pretty friendly and reasonable. Sure, we may have different points of view, but surely we can have a polite discussion, right? Right?

I'm assuming this post will be deleted; I hardly expect you to read my views and actually think about it, that much is obviously from your already closed minded approaches to life. I very much hope you will read this though and do not delete it, I always like to have a chat with your kind of people.

Okay...... so you're coming in here as all "humble" and what not, but what you're really doing is talking down to "our kind of people".

Son, your whole attitude is a joke. No wonder you are an avid gamer

[GOD=life]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

However to make good people do bad things requires religion.

You are paraphrasing a Steven Weinberg quote. The exact one is "Good people will do good things, and bad people will do bad things. But for good people to do bad things—that takes religion."

That may sound reasonable on the surface if you already agree with it, but let us then also consider the words of Freeman Dyson, famous for his work in quantum field theory, solid-state physics, astronomy and nuclear engineering.

"Weinberg's statement is true as far as it goes, but it is not the whole truth. To make it the whole truth, we must add an additional clause: "And for bad people to do good things—that [also] takes religion." The main point of Christianity is that it is a religion for sinners. Jesus made that very clear. When the Pharisees asked his disciples, "Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?" he said, "I come to call not the righteous but sinners to repentance." Only a small fraction of sinners repent and do good things but only a small fraction of good people are led by their religion to do bad things."

QED

In case you haven't figured it out yet, I am atheist.

I'm guessing you're also a gamegoloid.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Forgive me for I am but a humble gamer, merely trying to survive in this world....

But I mean c'mon, is this real?!?!?!

Do you seriously think this game is "Evil"?

I am a gamer, I play many games, be they FPS (first person shooter), strategy or RPG and YET, I still consider myself to high moral values. I will not hurt a person, I would not kill a person, in fact I would say I follow more of your laws than most Christians seem do! I definitely have a good grip on reality, gaming as in no way whatsoever effected my ability to tell what is real and what isn't, unlike some of you obviously.

You may come up with examples like: "Oh, these 2 kids killed someone because of what they saw in a videogame!", and yes, they may well have done, but surely this is such a small percentage the millions that play these games. I would guess that people of this mentality would commit crimes with our without games.

I can bring up MANY more examples of Christianity (and nigh on every other religion) causing much more pain and suffering than these so called "evil" games.

In one of your posts you claim that this game is evil, yet Bob's gun shop is not (page 13, near the bottom). So your saying that a game played for fun is more dangerous than a freaking gun?!?!?! A people can (and do) use guns to kill, I couldn't kill you with this game. I'd be more influenced for the worst if I held a gun than if I played a few hours of Oblivion!

The worst thing is that you claim that these games harm impressionable children, and you are right, they are impressionable. So what do you do?? You take these impressionable children, and you do exactly what you condemn these games for doing, you impression upon them your views, you brain wash them, you give them no chance to see what the world is really like.

I'm assuming this post will be deleted; I hardly expect you to read my views and actually think about it, that much is obviously from your already closed minded approaches to life. I very much hope you will read this though and do not delete it, I always like to have a chat with your kind of people .

With all my love,
Ellis

Welcome friend. I am sorry you are so close minded. I suspect you will never read this though.