[GarthDrunk]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Brothers and sisters in Christ,

It has come to my attention through the recent hoopla of the "Oblivion" thread that the same company has created an equally disturbing game called Fallout 3. Without a doubt, the people at Bethesda Softworks (creators of Oblivion and Fallout 3) seem intent on corrupting our youth with introducing anti-Biblical concepts, violence, sexuality, and law-breaking. I have just reviewed the game, and I will now provide a fair and balanced assessment of this poor excuse for a "game".



The setting takes place in and around Washington D.C. after a nuclear war. I might as well open by saying the only good thing that this game offers is that it rightly attributes communism to destruction. In the game's story, China has launched nuclear strikes and destroyed America. While this is much applauded (not the destruction of America, but showing that Communists are evil people), that is where the positive nature of this game ends. Here are just some brief tidbits about what this game contains...

• It is extremely violent. It features various types of sub-machine guns, nuclear weapons, rocket launchers, knives, flamethrowers, various melee weapons, and other instruments of destruction. You can't play this game without killing hundreds of people.
• There is a lot of cursing in this game, with the A-word, S-word, and F-word.
• There is a "perk", if you want to call it that, called "Bloody Mess" which makes killing people even more graphic and gruesome. Your enemies explode in a mess of blood and guts.
• There is another "perk" called Mister Sandman that allows you to kill innocent people in their sleep.
• The worst "perk" of all is the aptly-named Cannibal that allows you to literally devour corpses. I'm not making this up!
• There are quests where you are assigned to kill people. One is even so blatantly called "You gotta shoot 'em in the head" where you are told to do just so.
• You can blow up an innocent town with an atom bomb. After obliverating these people, you are rewarded with money and a place to stay. What kind of message is this giving our children?
• There is prostitution in the game. If you go to a place called Moriarty's Bar, there is a woman who offers to fornicate with you for a price. The player is able to have sexual relations with this woman.
  1st Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
• You can pretty much kill whoever you want, even good guys. The game makes no consequence for your actions. At most, you have to leave a town for three days, but it allows teenagers to live out "spree killer" and "school shooting" fantasies.
• The player can create their own homemade weapons like a "dart gun" and "bottlecap mine" which encourage domestic terrorist activities. How many kids might be inspired to make their own pipe bombs after playing this game?
• There are beings called "ghouls", which appear to be some kind of zombie demon out of a horror movie. While many ghouls are bad, some are considered "good guys".
• It quotes the Bible out of context. One of the recurring themes revolves around Revelations 21:6..."And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." However instead of pointing out that this verse revolves around the Lord and that He alone can provide eternal life, this game misconstrues it and takes it to mean that we can make water-purifying systems. It is a mockery of the Bible!
• There is a group of misbehaving brats in a town called Little Lamplight. They do anything they want and disrespect adults. There is nothing in the game that can correct this behavior even though the Bible tells us how to deal with such rebellious imps: Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Nowhere in the game can you punish these children for their behavior. It tells kids they can act however they want with impugnity.
• You are able to pick locks and it's a skill. You can basically break into other people's doors, safes, and other secure places and steal what you want at whim.
• It also promotes Computer Hacking. Through the skill "Computers", the player can hack another person's private computer, even though hacking is a federal crime.
• Alcohol is available in this game through such forms as whiskey.
• Drug use is promoted. There is a syringe called "Med X" (Heroin), a drug called "Psycho" (Methamphetamine) and "Buffout" (Steroids). Taking these drugs makes you a stronger player, so drugs are encouraged in this game. Even though you can get addicted to the drugs, you can always just see a doctor to cure the addiction. Nowhere in this game is there any Christian pastor to help you overcome addiction through faith in Jesus Christ. Nowhere!
• There is a false, heretical religion called "The Church of Atom". They believes that an atom bomb is a god or something. This may lead players to believe in this bizarre cult. Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."
• The only other church is called "St. Monica's Church". We know Catholics aren't really Christians and this game pushes Catholicism onto players instead of Baptists who believe in the 1611 KJV Bible.

I could go on and on, but I think you can realize what this whole game is about. There are no redeeming qualities in this game, no exhortation of Christian values, but just stuff that would make Satan happy. It should come as no surprise that this game is very popular and many Oblivion players also play this game as well.

Any True Christian™ parent would not want this game around their children. It is an evil influence. Paul warns us to seperate ourselves from such iniquity...



Indeed this game is truly an unfruitful work of darkness. You cannot be a Christian and play this game since you are going against the Bible, as I have shown in the above quotes.

Friends, in my last post warning about the dangers of Oblivion, I advocated taking a stand against the stores selling that demonic game, but I feel considering Bethesda has been putting out multiple games, the only rational stand is to call for the end of Bethesda Softworks. These people should be held accountable to the law (both God's and secular) and should not be able to produce video games anymore. I encourage every Bible-believing True Christian™ reading this to let your congressman know about what is going on in this Satanic organization. Bethesda feels they can put out these sinful games at their own will, but they must be stopped.

I will pray that our cause will prevail. I will pray that the Lord will put Bethesda Softworks out of business. I will pray that these criminals serve time behind bars for corrupting our youth. In Jesus' name, I pray.

Yours in Christ,
Rev. Jim Osborne

Enclosed is a screenshot of this game.

Ok I'm sorry.
First I'd like to say this:
I've been a christian my entire life. I was born in a christian household, go to church, have been saved, and go to church every sunday.

How can you call this game satanic? Or even teaching todays children to create another Columbine?
Might I remind you that it was the generation BEFORE us that had two world wars? The generation that had columbine? The generation that started the Iraq war?
MY GENERATION ID NONE OF THESE. All we have are violent video games.
I've played violent games before, such as Halo 3.
My parents are consistent in telling me that I should never do things like columbine are bad and I should avoid thoughts of doing so.
Never before have I gotten the idea of sooting someone because of a video game.
Wasn't your generation the first to have little army men? So that we could CREATE OUR OWN FANTASIZED WARS?
Sounds an awful lot like Fallout 3.

And you honestly think that having a parent accompany a child on a hunting trip can help?In doing so you're TEACHING YOUR CHILD HOW TO OPERATE A GUN? If you put them on a hunting trip, they will be even MORE LIKELY to shoot something.

Now, I would stick around and write up more arguments. But it's a wednesday night and I've got Youth Group at 8.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Well first of all i this thread is about Fallout 3 and not about jesus and second of all u banned 5 times already and made it back on and can do it again and i never lied i will give u some of my grades even though i never try at school.Science/Health GradeN/AAAB+ASocial Studies GradeAAAAAArt Semester Grade B AA-Music Semester Grade A- AAPhysical Education Semester Grade A AACitizenship GradeAAAAA
Math GradeBA-ABB+English/Writing GradeAAAAAReading GradeA-B+AA-A

Just when I thought your writing could not be worse, you manage to exceed all expectations. Yeah!
You are a credit to your country, its' educational system and your parents. Stupidity is nothing to be proud of.

I highlighted all the spelling errors. The entire post lacks proper structure, display repetitive incorrect word usage and is a gross display of a run on sentence.
Is your school one of those places for the retarded?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Ok I'm sorry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Followed by a lot of inconsequential Drivel<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<.

Why do these idiots come on a CHRISTAN website, refuse the read the FAQs and wonder why we could care less about them. They simply fail to realize........ wait for it........ they have demonstrated they could care less about us and like little babies, want to be the center of the universe and have use answer a question when we know them from, well, Adam.
At least this human race failure had the decency to apologize in advance.

[GarthDrunk]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Just when I thought your writing could not be worse, you manage to exceed all expectations. Yeah!
You are a credit to your country, its' educational system and your parents. Stupidity is nothing to be proud of.

I highlighted all the spelling errors. The entire post lacks proper structure, display repetitive incorrect word usage and is a gross display of a run on sentence.
Is your school one of those places for the retarded?

I'm sorry.
But since when does God care about our grammar?
When did God care about our college?
The only thing he cares about is us. As long as we are saved he loves us.
You don't need good grammar to spread the gospel. You simply need lips and the Holy Spirit.

[Listening]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Garth Dunk is right. Your generation had world wars One and Two. Your generation had Vietnam and the Iraqui war. I've played Fallout 3 and have never had an idea to head out shopping for materials for a pipe bomb, or any other violent acts.

It's also pretty funny how nobody responds to my posts. It's like you don't know what to say. Hmm.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'm sorry.
But since when does God care about our grammar?
When did God care about our college?
The only thing he cares about is us. As long as we are saved he loves us.
You don't need good grammar to spread the gospel. You simply need lips and the Holy Spirit.

Look, boozer, maybe you want to come back when you are sober.
God does care. He wants His children to grow and develop. We are created in His image, you think He wants us to make Him look bad?
If we are expected to help and respect people, we have to be able to understand them and know they respect us. The child who was banned was given many opportunities to change his ways. He refused.
To not see this further confirms your hate of God. Really very sad, between the alcohol and the poor attitude.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Garth Dunk is right. Your generation had world wars One and Two. Your generation had Vietnam and the Iraqui war. I've played Fallout 3 and have never had an idea to head out shopping for materials for a pipe bomb, or any other violent acts.

It's also pretty funny how nobody responds to my posts. It's like you don't know what to say. Hmm.

There is nothing to respond to.

We're here to praise Jesus. Why are you here?

[America]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Ok really? Its a VIDEOGAME! No normal child is going to go out drinking and killing people after playing this, and if they do they are messed up and should of seeked help before thats number 1. 2 is that this game is rated M for Mature and you can only buy it if ur 17+ so only adults can buy it on their own so its not marketed towards kids. game developers dont want kids playing these games they are made for people above 17. if a mom wants to get this game for their kid than ok whatever but its not real. no normal kid wants to go kill people. i play these types of games and i dont want to go kill people now. im not going to go find some nukes and nuke people. I wont do that. its people like you that are ruining christianity.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Garth Dunk is right. Your generation had world wars One and Two.

Please! We're not that old. I was a tyke when World War II was fought.

Your generation had Vietnam and the Iraqui war. I've played Fallout 3 and have never had an idea to head out shopping for materials for a pipe bomb, or any other violent acts.

Just because you haven't means no one else will? "Oh, I've driven drunk before and I didn't get in any accident. Therefore drunk driving does not cause accidents."

It's also pretty funny how nobody responds to my posts. It's like you don't know what to say. Hmm.

Maybe if you say something interesting and meaningful for once then you'll get a response.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'm sorry.
But since when does God care about our grammar?
When did God care about our college?
The only thing he cares about is us. As long as we are saved he loves us.
You don't need good grammar to spread the gospel. You simply need lips and the Holy Spirit.

You couldn't be more wrong, boy. God cares deeply about details.

"one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law" - Matthew 5:18

I'd like the name of your church and pastor. I'd like to have a word with him.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Garth Dunk is right. Your generation had world wars One and Two. Your generation had Vietnam and the Iraqui war. I've played Fallout 3 and have never had an idea to head out shopping for materials for a pipe bomb, or any other violent acts.

It's also pretty funny how nobody responds to my posts. It's like you don't know what to say. Hmm.

I was not alive for WWI, WWII, I was a child for Vietnam and we all had the Iraqi's. Try again.

You have not gone shopping for bomb materials yet. It is the first time that concerns everyone.

No, No one noticed you, like all the others, you failed to read the forum FAQs. As I already said and I'll repeat, just for you because you are so very special:
Why do these idiots come on a CHRISTAN website, refuse the read the FAQs and wonder why we could care less about
them. They simply fail to realize........ wait for it........ they have demonstrated they could care less about us and like little
babies, want to be the center of the universe and have us answer a question when we know them from, well, Adam.

Funny how that fits you to a 'T'.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Static>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Why do these idiots come on a CHRISTAN website, refuse the read the FAQs and wonder why we could care less about
them. They simply fail to realize........ wait for it........ they have demonstrated they could care less about us and like little
babies, want to be the center of the universe and have us answer a question when we know them from, well, Adam.

[Listening]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'm here until Reverand Jim Osborne admits that he was wrong about Fallout 3. You're here to preach about Christianity. Can we not co-exist?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'm here until Reverand Jim Osborne admits that he was wrong about Fallout 3. You're here to preach about Christianity. Can we not co-exist?

He was not wrong. You will therefore die here. Bye now.

[America]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Why do these idiots come on a CHRISTAN website, refuse the read the FAQs and wonder why we could care less about
them. They simply fail to realize........ wait for it........ they have demonstrated they could care less about us and like little
babies, want to be the center of the universe and have us answer a question when we know them from, well, Adam.

I dont care about you because you are ignorant. I'm not a little baby I'm making a point. And I don't need to be the center of the universe. You people disgust me.