[Camrean]

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Like I said, no Christian should play this game but you are Catholic, not a Christian. Did you not read my original post? I noted that Bethesda quoted the Bible -- out of context! They turn the Revelations quote "waters of life" into some kind of thing about water purification when the verse is about Jesus being the only way to Salvation. Read that last sentence again, Mary-worshipper...Jesus is the only way to Salvation!

Hello, Reverend, I would like to point out a couple inaccuracies in your post. I apologize for quoting this post from a while ago, but I have only recently been shown this site.

You said that Bethesda quoted Revelations 21:6 out of context - not true. They did not turn this into anything about water purification. The passage is blatantly stated near the beginning of the game to be the favorite Bible passage of the mother of your in-game character, not anything to do with the water purification in the game. The only connection it has is that near the end of the game's main storyline you must input the numbers 216 to activate a water purification system. Those particular numbers were chosen as the password because your character's father created this water purification device; he merely wanted to memorialize the player character's mother, who died giving birth to the player character at the beginning of the game.

You also say that Catholics worship Mary - this is also not true. They merely acknowledge here as the mother of Jesus Christ, our savior.

I do not wish to disrespect you, Reverend, but those were a couple inaccuracies that were bugging me as I read through this thread.

[James Hutchins]

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I do too. I love innuendo

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Hello, Reverend, I would like to point out a couple inaccuracies in your post. I apologize for quoting this post from a while ago, but I have only recently been shown this site.

You said that Bethesda quoted Revelations 21:6 out of context - not true. They did not turn this into anything about water purification. The passage is blatantly stated near the beginning of the game to be the favorite Bible passage of the mother of your in-game character, not anything to do with the water purification in the game. The only connection it has is that near the end of the game's main storyline you must input the numbers 216 to activate a water purification system. Those particular numbers were chosen as the password because your character's father created this water purification device; he merely wanted to memorialize the player character's mother, who died giving birth to the player character at the beginning of the game.

You also say that Catholics worship Mary - this is also not true. They merely acknowledge here as the mother of Jesus Christ, our savior.

I do not wish to disrespect you, Reverend, but those were a couple inaccuracies that were bugging me as I read through this thread.

Revelation 21:6 (King James Version)


6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

[Camrean]

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*her

Also, you said that buying rated Mature games is illegal. This is also untrue in most cases. Those ratings are by an independent company - the ESRB - and are not law in many places. A few legislations have adopted them as law, and most retailers that sell video games have a rule in their store to not sell Mature rated video games to people under 17, the age recommended by the ESRB.

[Apollyon]

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Now Rev., notice the feeble attempt at befriending me (LOL, just like he tried with Brother Nobar a while ago). Notice, in his zeal to defend his position, he calls me a 'zealot'. Very interesting.
Next will be the tantrum.

Believe what you want to. I assume you are a friend, or at least a nice person, but I guess you wish to deny this?

Why do you think "zealots" are bad? You keep saying that. It's even in your sig. Guess what, though? God wants us to be full of passion! He tells us if we are not, we will be damned to Hell.
Of course passion is good, but when it becomes too much, it leads to zealotry. Guess what that ends up to meaning? Wars in the name of God, that's what.

Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

I know, it's one of those "jedi mind tricks" atheists like to play. Don't be fooled. They lull you into a false sense of security then pounce you.

What's quite funny is Brother Nobar's signature

Yeah, it's a jedi mind trick, because I'm obviously a Jedi! The power of the force compells you!

[Nobar King]

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W After all, if they were all good, we wouldn't have holy wars, would we? Or we wouldn't have censorship, which is the case I'm seeing here.

You have a problem with censorship?? Everything is censored (outside of 4chan). Get used to it. Even I have to censor myself so that I don't write to you how I really feel about you, otherwise I might get banned from this forum.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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The holy wars were bloody, and I'm quite sure the Passion of the Christ was bloody too. And for your sake, the Bible, while you can't see anything, you can still IMAGINE what it was like, and that, my friend, can be more violent than anything out on the market.

By holy wars you mean the Crusades? Those were not done by Christians, they were done by Catholics. If you want to use the Crusades as an example of how blood-thirsty of a cult the Roman church is, then I will agree with you on that. Also, Camrean, read the link in the original post about how Catholics are not Christians. That should clear up any questions you may have about that.

[Camrean]

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Also, Camrean, read the link in the original post about how Catholics are not Christians. That should clear up any questions you may have about that.

I do not believe you read my post, Reverend, I wasn't saying that Catholics are Christians or anything like that, I was merely pointing out a few inaccuracies in a post of yours.

[Apollyon]

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Why do you think "zealots" are bad? You keep saying that. It's even in your sig. Guess what, though? God wants us to be full of passion! He tells us if we are not, we will be damned to Hell.

Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Whoops, forgot my response. Zealotry is bad. Passion is not. Zealotry is what leads us to war, violence, and pain! After all, that's how the holy wars started, and that's how censorship starts. Once you start seeing everything that does not agree with Christianity (or whatever religion you believe in!), you begin to believe it as blasphemic instead of listening and trying to understand.

By holy wars you mean the Crusades? Those were not done by Christians, they were done by Catholics. If you want to use the Crusades as an example of how blood-thirsty of a cult the Roman church is, then I will agree with you on that.

Never heard of the Northern Crusades, started by Christians that converted pagans forcibly, and clashed with the Catholics?

You have a problem with censorship?? Everything is censored (outside of 4chan). Get used to it. Even I have to censor myself so that I don't write to you how I really feel about you, otherwise I might get banned from this forum.

Not everything is censored, but you're talking about trying to ban a form of art here. And that is something I'm against, whether it be violent or not.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Whoops, forgot my response. Zealotry is bad. Passion is not. Zealotry is what leads us to war, violence, and pain! After all, that's how the holy wars started, and that's how censorship starts. Once you start seeing everything that does not agree with Christianity (or whatever religion you believe in!), you begin to believe it as blasphemic instead of listening and trying to understand.

But whatever does not agree with Christianity is blasphemic! Please show us Scripture where God tells us to "listen and try to understand" others.

Never heard of the Northern Crusades, started by Christians that converted pagans forcibly, and clashed with the Catholics?

They weren't Baptists, I can tell you that!

Not everything is censored, but you're talking about trying to ban a form of art here. And that is something I'm against, whether it be violent or not.

It's "art" now? Is that what they're calling it these days? If it was art, you would see a copy of Fallout 3 hanging next to the Mona Lisa.

[James Hutchins]

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Rev., there is a word for people like this, not gamer but one that covers a broad spectrum of overly enthusiastic people. People with a one focus life. One goal in mind. I know the word, it is on the tip of my tongue.......

[Apollyon]

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But whatever does not agree with Christianity is blasphemic! Please show us Scripture where God tells us to "listen and try to understand" others.

You're right, it is... to the religion itself. You'll ignore anything that doesn't agree with it, whether it's good, bad, or just unaligned. Much like how you've ignored the ability to help people in Fallout 3.

There are no redeeming qualities in this game, no exhortation of Christian values, but just stuff that would make Satan happy.

What a lie.

They weren't Baptists, I can tell you that!

True, but my point still stands. Crusades are held when zealotry and fanaticism becomes too great!

It's "art" now? Is that what they're calling it these days? If it was art, you would see a copy of Fallout 3 hanging next to the Mona Lisa.

It's defined as art by the United States of America, if you didn't know. That's why it's protected by the First Amendment! It's as much art as a fictional novel or a movie is.

[thesleepyturtle]

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You have a problem with censorship?? Everything is censored (outside of 4chan). Get used to it. Even I have to censor myself so that I don't write to you how I really feel about you, otherwise I might get banned from this forum.

4chan is censored, any illegal activities or hate speeches are removed when moderators see them. Censorship of opinions however, should not be censored anywhere, as everyone has their own opinions, and no opinions are wrong factually, but they can be wrong morally. The only opinions that should be centered are things like hate speeches.

[Bobby-Joe]

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4chan is censored, any illegal activities or hate speeches are removed when moderators see them. Censorship of opinions however, should not be censored anywhere, as everyone has their own opinions, and no opinions are wrong factually, but they can be wrong morally. The only opinions that should be centered are things like hate speeches.

That is this forum's policy. You post anti-Christian hate speech it will be deleted. We will not be persecuted in our own forum.

[Apollyon]

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It's defined as art by the United States of America, if you didn't know. That's why it's protected by the First Amendment! It's as much art as a real novel or a movie is.

Nice, f.ictional is censored. I was, of course, talking about a f.ictional novel.

4chan is censored, any illegal activities or hate speeches are removed when moderators see them. Censorship of opinions however, should not be censored anywhere, as everyone has their own opinions, and no opinions are wrong factually, but they can be wrong morally. The only opinions that should be centered are things like hate speeches.

I tip my hat to you, sir!