[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Like zits on a teenager, this loser wll be back, unfortunatly. What is with these infantile trolls today? They have to be the most immature group I have ever seen.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Oh, and logging out is not the same as deleting an account

Of course it's not. Logging out doesn't let drama queens make a big production out of "Please delete my account, I don't want you to try and save me anymore!"

[Zeke Wannabee]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'm sorry not only does it look like you've played the game thoroughly it seems you have.

Some things I like to say...

You can't play this game without killing hundreds of people.

You can beat the game without killing a single thing, although that would take the fun out of it.

Asshole, fuck and shit are not bad words...there is no such thing as bad words, its just what people don't want to hear. Ever stubbed your toe and said "oh shit" and you dropped dead? No.

Stealing is fun, so is picking locks, who gives a fuck its completely virtual.

Hacking isn't a crime unless it's used to steal private information or property.

Alcohol is available in real life, and if I remember correctly in real life its called "God's Drink"

The drugs ingame actually suck ass and completely slow you from completing the game so theres no reason to bombard that.

There is a false, heretical religion called "The Church of Atom". They believes that an atom bomb is a god or something. This may lead players to believe in this bizarre cult. Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."

Guess what many believe Christianity is a heretical false religion too, stop bombing someone's imagination! It's not real you don't see anyone creating church of atom websites to praise its glory.

I'd love to keep going on but your not worth my time.

Out of all Christian religions the baptists seemed to be the most absent minded again and again. Stop attacking video games and start blaming parents, a video game doesn't make you want to shoot something, but a bad parent can surely train you.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

By your impeccable logic, murder is ok as long as you have fun and do not get caught. You'd have no problem with a bunch of people coming over to your home, breaking in and robbing you, as long it was all fun. You would love it if people would walk up to your mom and call her a F'ing whore, because they are just words. You have no problem if someone hacked and knew all your bank account data, as long as nothing was stolen, yet. Grow up, find God.

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Ever stubbed your toe and said "oh shit" and you dropped dead? No.

Did you ever die from stubbing your toe? No? Why not?

[marcvs]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

If kids want to play with guns, their parents ought to accompany them on hunting trips to shoot animals, not buy them murder simulators!

Well done, officer! Parents should make their children kill real animals instead of pixelized zombies. Videogames are turning our young ones into sissies - no wonder this country is full of spineless homos. Killing animals is not a sin - they are there to serve mankind as he sees fit. Genesis 1:26 "[...] let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over ALL THE EARTH, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth" (emphasis added).

This passage is also good to shut the mouth of tree huggers when they start whining about pollution and the misuse of the earth's resources. Which brings me to another point by the way - that vegetarians are sinners. I feel this point is never stressed enough. How many "veggies" do you know that are True Christians? There are several passages in the Bible where Jesus himself eats meat and fish, therefore being a vegetarian for ethical reasons makes a mockery of Jesus - how can you be more ethical than our Lord?! Vegetarians are sinners - they should pray the Lord for forgiveness and should be forced to kill an animal to show that they have truly repented.

Keep slappin' the cuffs, Officer!

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Which brings me to another point by the way - that vegetarians are sinners. I feel this point is never stressed enough. How many "veggies" do you know that are True Christians? There are several passages in the Bible where Jesus himself eats meat and fish, therefore being a vegetarian for ethical reasons makes a mockery of Jesus - how can you be more ethical than our Lord?! Vegetarians are sinners - they should pray the Lord for forgiveness and should be forced to kill an animal to show that they have truly repented.

Not all veggies are doing it for the Animals. I know a few who simply do not like the taste of most meats, and some who have stomach problems and simply cant handle meat. I dont think they are 'mocking' Jesus. In fact, it would seem God made them so they wouldnt eat meat. Obviously, there are those Veggies who do it so one less Cow dies, but I probally dislike those ones as much as you do, but not for 'Religious' reasons.

Oh, found some quotes you people may enjoy:
"An open mind is like a Fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."
"Cast out the Mutant, the traitor, the Heretic. For every enemy without there are a hundred within."
"The rewards of Tolerance are treachery and betrayal."

Not gonna say where there from (I know you will assume the worst ), but trust me when I say where this comes from is a great commentary where certain types of religions will take us in the far future, if mankind lasts that long.
So many worry about what they believe is right, wrong, and to stubborn to cast an eye and analyze there own beliefs. What humanity truly needs is something NO religion or faith can give it: Solidarity.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Wow, talk about a dizzy walk off topic you two!

Jay, if I did not know you better I'd say you were on drugs.

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I actually have a question that cropped up in my heretical skull this morning: Are you as 'True Christians' ALLOWED to play Fallout 3? I mean in your belief structure. The Reverend played it, posted his little scathing review (Who knows how far he got). But the Reverend is not out there commiting mass murders in the name of the Wasteland. Are True Christian adults allowed to play these games, but simply choose not to? Not for any religious reason (or for?), but just out of taste?
I am also curious as to why the Reverend chose this game off of the shelf, and not something you people would consider more blasphemous (i.e. 'Fable 2')? Also, is Military violence ('Call of Duty' franchise, 'Brothers in Arms') frowned upon as well?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I actually have a question that cropped up in my heretical skull this morning: Are you as 'True Christians' ALLOWED to play Fallout 3? I mean in your belief structure. The Reverend played it, posted his little scathing review (Who knows how far he got). But the Reverend is not out there commiting mass murders in the name of the Wasteland. Are True Christian adults allowed to play these games, but simply choose not to? Not for any religious reason (or for?), but just out of taste?
I am also curious as to why the Reverend chose this game off of the shelf, and not something you people would consider more blasphemous (i.e. 'Fable 2')? Also, is Military violence ('Call of Duty' franchise, 'Brothers in Arms') frowned upon as well?

I can tell you, young man, if any True Christian(tm) in my church was caught playing these games I would have a serious one-on-one talk with him in my office. These games are no laughing matter and a person is committing a multitude of sins just playing these "games".

Now, I can't be going around reviewing every single video game there is. I have an extremely busy schedule, not only as leading services here at Landover Baptist Church, but other Christian duties such as evangelical efforts and helping out with the website. Then I have my personal, recreational life where I might enjoy some billiards, brandy, and cigars.

I discovered Fallout 3 when after I reviewed Oblivion, I had many gamers tell me "Oh if you think Oblivion is bad, you should play Fallout 3!". Needless to say, the game was much more gruesome and sinful than I expected.

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Also, it would seem to me that some of your complaints about the game have to do with the fact that it does not push Christian beliefs. (See original post for reference, I forgot to quote like dummy )
If this is true, that is seriously messed up. Just because a game does not push your beliefs does not make it 'satanic'. And if this is the case, than you people are truly enemies of free thought. Again, Im not accusing anybody, unless that is the case.
Also, I would like to comment that Religions across the course of time have nearly always had problems with Art and New Technology. As Mankind moves forward and progresses, this ultimatly leads them farther from The Bible. As such, The Bible is not a 'living document', and leaves no room for such things, because these problems, these thoughts, with this Tech was never around or even in thought in the days of The Bible.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I am sure God and the Church would have no problem with me playing the game it I wanted to be fluent on the principles of it. But I do not think that is needed as the good Rev. graciously has already done this. I have a pretty extensive computer background and therefore already have a very good understanding of the programming aspect having dabbled a bit a few years ago.
Not to make it sound like judging a book by its' cover but with these games, you more or less can. The games are mostly marketed to impulsive OCD people. They want that unreal incredible out of this world experience. The game makers oblige with intense packaging.
I have no issue with the technology, just the content. I have no problem with the building that house a whore house. I take issue with the whores inside.

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Exactly! That's why you should be listening to Rev. Jim and stop playing that game!

[marcvs]

Re: Fallout 3 - and off-topic to vegetarians

Sorry for going off topic there but, you know, one thing leads to another

Let me just say this to conclude and no more, I promise (unless someone wants to start a new thread on this).

Not all veggies are doing it for the Animals.

You're right CyanideJay (and great quotes btw), I'm talking about vegetarians for ethical/moral reasons. In that case those who are not doing it for the animals should have no problem killing one to prove this. Animal sacrifice is mentioned in the Bible and is something that pleases God. (See Gen. 4:3, where God had respect for Abel's animal offering, while he did not appreciate Cain's offering of fruit of the ground). Isn't this the case anymore? (maybe this does need a new thread...)

The art of hunting and killing animals brings one closer to God's Creation on a level no hippy will ever experience. So STOP PLAYING filthy satanic sissy video games (to get back on topic ).

[marcvs]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

...Religions across the course of time have nearly always had problems with Art and New Technology. As Mankind moves forward and progresses, this ultimatly leads them farther from The Bible. As such, The Bible is not a 'living document', and leaves no room for such things, because these problems, these thoughts, with this Tech was never around or even in thought in the days of The Bible.

There may not have been X-Box 360's in biblical times, but evil is evil no matter what form it takes or how subtly it is disguised. The principle remains the same so the Bible is still relevant.