[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

So you gave your children guns?? So they can learn to shoot? And kill all the kids in their school...without missing? Nice parenting...

Unlike school shooters, our children do not play video games.

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You people just sound so piffleing stupid...

I stopped reading your drivel right after you called us stupid.

No one is interested in the drivel written by some uneducated child who has not carefully researched his position and is not able to back it up with rational arguments.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

So you gave your children guns? So they can learn to shoot?

Of course! How else would they learn how to kill their food?

And kill all the kids in their school

Like every good Christian parent I home schooled them. Never trust those left wing teachers.

[decaturpolice]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I agree that video games can be a strong influence on impressionable young minds, but it depends heavily on the parenting. I was fortunate enough to have two Christian parents who were able to create a sensible head on my shoulders, and have given me an accurate and Biblical sense of right and wrong. That being said, I used to own the game "Oblivion" a few years ago, spent countless hours playing it, and was still able to praise and acknowledge Jesus as my savior. I was automatically able to tell that the game had Satanic overtones and that I shouldn't let any aspects of this game influence my real life. It didn't spark any interest in the occult, in fact it made the occult much more repulsive to me. What people are failing to mention here is that bad parenting is a far greater danger than the contents of this game. My parents taught me that witchcraft, murder, and etc were evil and I was able to understand that this fictional experience should STAY FICTIONAL.

However, I know that the majority of people are much more ignorant and susceptible to any and every influence that comes their way, and I agree that Oblivion is NOT something that most people should be exposed to, simply because most people are too naive the understand the very real Satanic aspects of this game and how it shouldn't apply to their actual lives. But "Fallout 3" is nowhere near as evil as "Oblivion" is and I'd like to say some things in its defense. First, we should be able to agree that Fallout 3 is several notches less Satanic than Oblivion just by the fact that all of the occult sorcery and demonic activity from Oblivion is not present here at all.

I find it disturbing how some people can think everything is a plot to get children to shoot each other - and this is coming from someone who believes that the media is trying to brainwash us. Let's say that you survived a nuclear attack, and were stranded on an endless wasteland, as depicted in this game. There are looters and gangs everywhere fighting for control and survival. Keep in mind, this is a situation within the realm of possibility. If you were able to build a gun out of darts and rubber bands, or a "mine" out of "bottlecaps", wouldn't you utilize the few resources that you had in order to survive, or better yet, protect your family? Yet people still find a way to spin this into being a scheme to influence teenagers into building pipe bombs to blow up their school.

The original post mentioned the "Ghouls" in this game as being "zombie demons" who are wrongfully depicted as "good guys". The ghouls are actually human beings who've had the misfortunate of being disfigured by radiation. While some of the ghouls literally are "zombies," because their brains have been fried to the point where they're reduced to primitive, violent animals, many of the ghouls are only mutated cosmetically and are intelligent, kind-hearted people. In fact, some of the questlines in this game revolve around the ugly bigotry that most humans have towards the intelligent ghouls. Moral of the story here is, the ghouls are not at all demonic in nature. Drug use is also NOT promoted in this game, at least, not any more than a commercial segment on Fox News. The pharmaceutical industry and advertisers promote more dangerous chemicals than video games ever will. Whatever you have, they have a pill that they want you to take for it. The option to use drugs in the game is available, but you can become ADDICTED which has many negative consequences that every player strives to avoid. Also I'm very confused as to why the original post has a problem with drug addiction being cured by a DOCTOR instead of a reverend at the church. When it comes to salvation, I agree that Jesus is the only way, but seriously, I don't think Jesus would be offended by anyone going to a doctor to treat their ailments.

Yes, you can kill the "good guys" in the game, and yes there are prostitutes and computer hacking, guess where else we can find these things: REAL LIFE. In real life, one may be REWARDED by breaking into someone's car, by getting a new iPod. In real life, one could walk down the street and run into a crazy old man promoting the Church of Scientology (or "the Church of Atom"). Even though it saddens me to see people in the game worshipping the false idol "Atom", it's simply a representation of what actually happens in the world that God created. In real life, we have the choice to kill whoever we want, and we may actually be rewarded for that as well, as some of you may find that some sick people out there are willing to pay a lot of money for hitmen. Just because you CAN do it, doesn't mean you WILL. The same goes for Fallout 3. All of the options and temptations in this game are ones that we face in real life. One could play through the entire game without killing an innocent life, stealing, computer hacking, etc. So if you're "appalled" by the content of this game, by that logic you should also be appaled with God (which is obiously foolish).

[decaturpolice]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Why the word "real" is censored is beyond me.... in my post above I said "My parents taught me that witchcraft, murder, and etc were evil and I was able to understand that this f*ctional experience should STAY F*CTIONAL." Not "real". Just wanted to clarify

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

>>>>>>>>>>> Blah Blah Blah.... tl:dr <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

<<<<<<<<< 2nd post, even less significant >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tomorrow is Monday, certainly more important then the two above posts.

[decaturpolice]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

<<<<<<<<< 2nd post, even less significant >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tomorrow is Monday, certainly more important then the two above posts.[/QUOTE]

Notice how my respectful and well thought-out message is replied to with a childish one-liner. You're making us Christians look bad.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Tomorrow is Monday, certainly more important then the two above posts.

Notice how my respectful and well thought-out message is replied to with a childish one-liner. You're making us Christians look bad.

Your drivel did not justify the ink needed for two lines.

I will admit it appeared well written. But it was long and undoubtedly was a repeat of something already said by the last 600 dim kids.

You appear respectful, at least your parents can be proud of one thing regarding you.

[decaturpolice]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

^So you haven't played either of the games, we get it. If you're going to use psuedo-wise phrases like "your drivel did not justify the ink" at least have some explanation behind what you're saying, or don't say anything at all because you're posts all lack substance and it makes you look bad. But good job, you can INSULT better than me, so you MUST be right!

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

If you're going to use psuedo-wise phrases like "your drivel did not justify the ink" (punctionation...) at least have some explanation behind what you're saying, or don't say anything at all (or how about you don't go to a Christian forum?) because you're (homophone alert, native speaker!) posts all lack substance and it makes you look bad. But good job, you can INSULT better than me, so you MUST be right!

If you read through the entire thread, you will find everything you need.

Brother James is simply tired of having to repeat the answer for the 100th time just because someone comes barging into a Christian forum and stomps his feet.

In short: all school shooters have played video games (fact). Playing video games gets you into a trance (fact). Children react unpleasantly when a parent tells him to stop in the middle of a level (fact). Playing video games simulates an environment where the worst possible punishment for murder is hitting a reset button (fact). People have come into this forum stating they would play video games to train ways of murdering rapists (fact). And so on...

I don't know yet how my fellow Brothers feel about this, but to be on the safe side, I would be in favor of banning ALL video games and ALL video game consoles (except the Sega Genesis for obvious reasons).

It's simply too much risk to take. Even if we can save 1 life, it's a life worth saving!

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

^So you haven't played either of the games, we get it. If you're going to use psuedo-wise phrases like "your drivel did not justify the ink" at least have some explanation behind what you're saying, or don't say anything at all because you're posts all lack substance and it makes you look bad. But good job, you can INSULT better than me, so you MUST be right!

Stupidity (yours) is nothing to be proud of. Take your head out of your arse for a minute and listen to your elders and instead of whining, kicking and crying.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

you're posts all lack substance

So when people have a different opinion they automatically lack substance? Interesting way of looking at it. But I will give you what you seem to want. I will spend some time on your tl;dr posting.

I agree that video games can be a strong influence on impressionable young minds

That we can agree on.

I was automatically able to tell that the game had Satanic overtones

So even though the evidence of satans involvement in the game was right in front of you, you kept playing?

I agree that Oblivion is NOT something that most people should be exposed to

Again we agree.

But "Fallout 3" is nowhere near as evil as "Oblivion" is and I'd like to say some things in its defense. First, we should be able to agree that Fallout 3 is several notches less Satanic than Oblivion

So it is still evil and satanic, just a bit less? And that is why children should be allowed to play it?

The option to use drugs in the game is available

So the game actively promotes drug usage, this is getting better and better.

there are prostitutes

Are you sure you are still trying to convince us this game is not bad for children?

In real life, we have the choice to kill whoever we want, and we may actually be rewarded for that as well

You obviously played too many video games. In video games you get rewarded for killing. In real life you get the death penalty. Losing perspective of this difference is one of the many problems of video games.

The same goes for Fallout 3. All of the options and temptations in this game are ones that we face in real life.

Conclusion: just like parents should protect their children from real life temptations, they should also protect them from this video game.

So if you're "appalled" by the content of this game, by that logic you should also be appaled with God (which is obiously foolish).

You have mentioned the game is evil, satanic, contains drug abuse and has prostitutes and still we should not be appalled by it? Are you crazy?

Just burn those games and start reading the Holy Bible. You have a lot to learn.

[decaturpolice]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You have mentioned the game is evil, satanic, contains drug abuse and has prostitutes and still we should not be appalled by it? Are you crazy?

Just burn those games and start reading the Holy Bible. You have a lot to learn.

You know what else is satanic, contains drug abuse, and prostitutes? The Earth that Jehovah created, the planet that you live on. Are you "appalled by his work? Why are video games not allowed to reflect the world that God created?

I just got a private message saying that "my unsaved opinions are not wanted here", so that explains a lot about this site - the fact that your moderators ASSUME that everyone who does not agree with some pastors view on a video game means I'M NOT SAVED, exposes this site for what it really is - people who are full of pride and arrogance, who OPENLY JUDGE other people like myself, which the Bible teaches us NOT TO DO. Who are any of you to judge whether or not I am saved? That's God's job, not yours. Understand that. I even received an INFRACTION for posting my own respectful opinion!

But what did I expect from a community who is in control of a deeply offensive and un-Christian Group "SAVE THE NIGLETS"? It's clear that none of you have played either of these games, yet you're jumping on the bandwagon of hate towards my reasonable post. You're all doing the New World Order a huge favor by systematically destroying the image of Christians. Ask God forgiveness for judging me so arrogantly. And to Cranky Old Man who took the time out of his day to break apart my "tl;dr" message and add his empty and baseless 2 cents on each sentence - congratulations on wasting a good bit of time that you'll never get back. You're entire post only displayed that you've never played the games and that you're taking the opinion of some televangelist as the Gospel

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You know what else is satanic, contains drug abuse, and prostitutes? The Earth that Jehovah created, the planet that you live on. Are you "appalled by his work?

What you say is not accurate. God created man. God gave man free will. Man used this free will for things like drugs and prostitution. Would you have preferred not to have free will?

Why are video games not allowed to reflect the world that God created?

Of course they are. But that is not what happens. Unfortunately video games focus on sinful behavior which is bad for those playing them.

yet you're jumping on the bandwagon of hate towards my reasonable post.

That is simply not true. I carefully read your posting and responded to its content. You could carefully read my response and respond to that as well if you want to. It is called a civilized discussion.

And to Cranky Old Man who took the time out of his day to break apart my "tl;dr" message and add his empty and baseless 2 cents on each sentence - congratulations on wasting a good bit of time that you'll never get back. You're entire post only displayed that you've never played the games and that you're taking the opinion of some televangelist as the Gospel

Actually I just responded to the things you yourself said about the game. It's called reading. Now it is your turn to do the same.

[coma1105]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I just want to point out that everyone is you guys are freaking out over drugs and prostitutes.

I just want to point out that I agree that drugs are bad. Like beyond bad...nothing good ever comes from a crackhead. ON THE OTHER HAND...God created Pot...

Like actual pot...not like a leaf that someone turned into pot. He just created the plant...SUPPOSEDLY!!! (I dont believe in God...Im just using your beliefs for this theory)

And have you ever seen a crazy pothead? I havent...they sit on the couch and eat cheetos.

Second of all...prostitution is way illegal...I get that. But wasn't Mary Magdalen a hooker too? I mean granted "Jesus saved her"...but technically she was an impure skank. And yet Jesus hung out with her. TELL ME He didnt hit that...I bet he did.