[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

A) Greenday are metal. Green day even border on metal. How can one argue they are'nt metal?

They are really punk rock. Even albums like Dookie and Nimrod were blatantly punk-ish. Last few albums have been Pop-punk for sure.

Not a Christian band, but an excellent band regardless, like alot of their stuff. And I'm not Christian. How now?

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

And I'm not Christian. How now?

Because you reject large parts of God's Word. You reject the notion that good deeds are important to the Christian.

Jn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

One cannot pick and choose which parts of God's Word to obey.

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Instead of reading and obeying God's Word for yourself, you get your information from preachers who tell you what you want to hear, not what God wants you to hear.

2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

Because you reject large parts of God's Word. You reject the notion that good deeds are important to the Christian.

Jn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

One cannot pick and choose which parts of God's Word to obey.

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Instead of reading and obeying God's Word for yourself, you get your information from preachers who tell you what you want to hear, not what God wants you to hear.


2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

How is listening to GD disobeying the Lord? Also, sucks for all of us, that we fall short in some places, applies to yourself as well brother. That's why we have Jesus.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

How is listening to GD disobeying the Lord? Also, sucks for all of us, that we fall short in some places, applies to yourself as well brother. That's why we have Jesus.

That' not what Jesus says. Some sinner probably told you that, to get you to have anal sex with him.

1st John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Can't you read?

[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

That' not what Jesus says. Some sinner probably told you that, to get you to have anal sex with him.

We're all sinners mate, Romans 3:23 makes that pretty clear. Jesus came to save those who followed him and had a relationship. That's what the Bible says. I didn't even have anal with anyone either.

Can't you read?

I can read.

[Didymus Much]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

We're all sinners mate, Romans 3:23 makes that pretty clear...I can read.

But you don't understand tenses. Romans 3:23 is past tense (everyone has sinned), 1 John 3:6 is present tense (True Christians™ are free from sin).

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

How is listening to GD disobeying the Lord? Also, sucks for all of us, that we fall short in some places, applies to yourself as well brother. That's why we have Jesus.

You again.

I thought we had made it clear that God wants humility when we praise and sing to Him. Simple worship toward our Lord, and not ourselves.

Psalm 113:6-7 "Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth!

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth the needy out of the dunghill;"



Do you see this wretched cripple prancing around a stage in makeup? Making a spectacle of herself and screaming, with undulating hips and God-mockery?

No. She loves God. Might you one day as well.

In Christ

[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

You again.

I thought we had made it clear that God wants humility when we praise and sing to Him. Simple worship toward our Lord, and not ourselves.

Psalm 113:6-7 "Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth!

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth the needy out of the dunghill;"

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Do you see this wretched cripple prancing around a stage in makeup? Making a spectacle of herself and screaming, with undulating hips and God-mockery?

No. She loves God. Might you one day as well.

In Christ

Me again! How've you been?

GD has nothing to do with praising God, let me make that clear, no one is under the impression that GD is praising God. I just enjoy their music. Believe me, I love God. I don't go to their concerts to praise anyone, more to listen to music. I conduct myself as a Christian there, and often evangelise. The Lord has nothing wrong with me doing this.

Furthermore, yes, past tense. ALL have SINNED and fall short. We have all sinned. And by saying you questionably Christian True Christians are exempt, you are going directly against the bible. How on earth does that make sense to you.

Also, Green Day are Heavy metal.

Your move.
God Bless

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

We're all sinners mate, Romans 3:23 makes that pretty clear.

We're all born sinners, yes. I was a sinner for the first 14 years of my life, till I came to Christ. But after being born again, we become incapable of sin. If you think it's possible for a Christian to go on sinning, then it's up to you to explain how that fits in with the verse Brother Billy Bob quoted.

1 Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1 Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

If you're still sinning, you don't know Jesus.

Jesus came to save those who followed him and had a relationship. That's what the Bible says.

Where does the Bible say that?

You're fond of John 3:16, so let's take a closer look at that verse.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

What do you think "believeth in him" means? Do you think it's possible to believe in Jesus yet reject some of His teachings? No; if you really believe in Jesus, you will accept and obey all of His teachings. If you believe Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God, you will accept all of the Bible, Old and New Testaments.

James uses the same line of reasoning.

Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Jas 2:10-11 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Jesus is God (Jn 10:30). So if you believe in Jesus, that's well and good. Even demons believe and tremble (Lk 8:28). But He who said, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" also said "If ye love me, keep my commandments" (Jn 14:15). If you believe in Jesus, you accept everything about Him, His words and His actions. The same Jesus who temporarily died for your sins is the same Jesus who drove the moneylenders out of the Temple with a whip of cords (Jn 2:13-16). The same Jesus who rose from the dead is the same Jesus who told us Canaanites are dogs (Mat 15:26). The same Jesus who will return in glory is the same Jesus who will destroy those who don't want Him to rule over them (Lk 19:27). If you accept Jesus, you accept all His words. And His words are God's words (Jn 17:8), and God's Word is the Bible (2 Tim 3:16). So if you don't accept all of Jesus' teaching and all of the Bible and live a sinless life, you don't really believe in Jesus.

Jn 3:18b He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

GD has nothing to do with praising God. The Lord has nothing wrong with me doing this.

Square that with 1 Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

[Praisehimwithcymbals]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

We're all born sinners, yes. I was a sinner for the first 14 years of my life, till I came to Christ. But after being born again, we become incapable of sin. If you think it's possible for a Christian to go on sinning, then it's up to you to explain how that fits in with the verse Brother Billy Bob quoted.

1 Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1 Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

If you're still sinning, you don't know Jesus.

Not really. More that we sin and it's on Jesus. We all do/say/think things that are sin, "True Christian" or not. Jesus came and died so that this didn't matter. We follow Jesus, and strive to be like him, but we fall short (as per earlier Romans 3 reference).

You're fond of John 3:16, so let's take a closer look at that verse.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

What do you think "believeth in him" means? Do you think it's possible to believe in Jesus yet reject some of His teachings? No; if you really believe in Jesus, you will accept and obey all of His teachings. If you believe Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God, you will accept all of the Bible, Old and New Testaments.

No I think that if we love Jesus we will TRY to accept and follow all of his teaching. We can't, only Jesus can. If we were able to be perfect, Jesus wouldn't really be anything special, would he?

So if you don't accept all of Jesus' teaching and all of the Bible and live a sinless life, you don't really believe in Jesus.

Hate to break it to you, you don't lead a sinless life either, so by your logic, you don't believe in Jesus

Square that with 1 Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

Yep, and at those shows, I conduct myself as a Christian and evangelise. With excellent music in the background.

As much as I think you're all nuts, I must say I'm impressed that you managed to trade mark a religeon

God bless

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

Not really. More that we sin and it's on Jesus. We all do/say/think things that are sin, "True Christian" or not. Jesus came and died so that this didn't matter.

So we can go on sinning and heap more sins onto Jesus. Isn't that like crucifying Christ again?

Heb 11:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

We follow Jesus, and strive to be like him, but we fall short (as per earlier Romans 3 reference).

Others have already debunked your interpretation of that passage. Do you have any other passage to support your views?

No I think that if we love Jesus we will TRY to accept and follow all of his teaching. We can't, only Jesus can.

Well, I guess we can try to believe in Jesus and He can try to save us.

If we were able to be perfect, Jesus wouldn't really be anything special, would he?

The angels are perfect. We will all be perfect in heaven. I guess Jesus isn't special, then.

Hate to break it to you, you don't lead a sinless life either, so by your logic, you don't believe in Jesus

You don't know me.

As usual you haven't presented any Scripture to support your views. You've just parroted what you've heard others say you should believe. You should read and learn to understand the Bible for yourself.

[Didymus Much]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

...If we were able to be perfect, Jesus wouldn't really be anything special, would he?...

The Bible repeatedly says that people can (and should) be perfect.

Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

James 1:4 "But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing."

Colossians 4:12 "Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God."

Philippians 3:15 "Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you."

1 Peter 5:10 "But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you."

You really should read it sometime. It's a hell of a book.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

@Praisehimwithcymbals Where are you getting your information about Jesus? You contradict God contradict Jesus & contradict The Holy Ghost. Are you a catholic.

[Praisehisholyname]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

We must stop this "green day" before more children turn to satan. Just yesterday I found my son listening to it immeaditly I took that music disc out of the cassette and burned it.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: New Metal Band "Greenday" Threatens Our Youth!

I find it offensive when they glorify rape, especially anal rape. It reminds me of all the times I was opened up like a tin can by mixed race homosexual prison gangs on a daily basis. It is deeply unsettling to have a massive penis inside of your rectum, and have no idea what continent it hails from. The last thing I need is Green Day rubbing that in.