[Pastor Ezekiel]

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It makes me so sick to my stomach to see people claiming to be christian, who use that as an excuse to be nasty, rude, hateful people. So many of your comments are disgusting. You attack good people, because you can only make yourself feel good by putting down others. This doesn't sound like "good christian values" to me, it just sounds like pure HATE.

Proud to be a TRUE CHRISTIAN, who accepts people for who they are,

Sami L. Winchester

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Vegasgoatgal]

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Jim Osborne you are so full of shit. The Bible teaches us about an afterlife and thse groups are trying to prove it. Instead of calling people gay (which they are not) why don't you try to understand other peoples beliefs. Its assholes like you (yes I am name calling) that make little kids scared of their own religion. Teach with love, kindness and understanding and most important, RESPECT!!!!

[KatieL]

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Wow... You call yourself a pastor? You are an ignorant, close-minded brainwasher. I have studied many religions and many interpretations of the Bible and you use many of these verses out of context.

Another thing, you may have stated a bunch of verses but where is your proof that these people are homosexual or witches and wizards? I am also an English major and I have learned that an argument without evidence is a load of crap, and that is what this is; a load of crap. You're argument is questionable at best and with no evidence no one with a brain will even take a second glance at it.

How dare you accuse and judge people you don't know. I'm sure you know what the Bible says about judging others: Romans 14:10, Romans 14:4, Romans 2:1, etc... I especially like that last one. "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things." Does that sound familiar?

You are in serious need of an education in both Literature and Theology.

[KatieL]

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"

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself. "

Oh please! Every forum is a debate forum. That's kind of the purpose of a forum.

"Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated."
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, whether you agree with them or not.

"Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome . "
Are you sure you are interpreting it correctly? what if you're wrong? When the Catholics began the Inquisition they also said they were following the Word of God to the letter and look how that ended up. Also God welcomes everyone and to say that someone is unwelcome just goes to show that you're not following God's word completely.

?And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. "
Oh dear, that was un-Christian of you.

No person in their right mind can claim to know the will of God.

[michie23]

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First and foremost I want to say that I am Christian woman and I have followed the Lord Jesus Christ for many many years and all I have to say about this is YOU ARE IDIOTS IF YOU BELIEVE THIS CRAP!!

The EMF detector is a device that detects Electromagnetic fields in an area that can cause people to feel weird and cause them to think that something paranormal is in the area. They ARE NOT TO DETECT THE ORESENCE OF DEMONS!!!!

That is ridiculous and the TAPS team DOES NOT go into these places trying to communicate with the dead. Their sole goal is to go into these places to find legitimate reasons why the people are hearing and seeing things. I have watched this show since it began and they have NEVER AND I DO MEAN NEVER EVEN BROUGHT IN A QUIJA BOARD. They do not like psychics and frequently tell the people who have consulted these types of people that they are fake and not to take what they say seriously. In most cases the Taps team go into a place and they find a lot of legitimate reasons for all the strange noises...such as houses settling which happen all the time in old houses/buildings, reflections in mirrors caused by a passing car, wind drafts from a heavy door that delays it closing and more...

I don't mean any disrespect to anyone but you are crazy!! I have been a Baptist for most of my life and it is people like you who cause others to run from the church screaming because they look at you like a witch hunter and someone who is going to do nothing but condem.

If you were a true believer you would follow Jesus' most important rule and commandment which is to love one another. He also siad not to judge lest you be judged.

This website is a joke and all it does is cause more fear and untruth about the Christian lifestyle.

I do not care to comment again and I better not receive anything from any of your administrators on this issue. The one and only reason I signed up was so I could defend these people (even though they dont need me to defend them)...

I love the Ghost Hunters show and I will not stop watching it...

That is all I have to say...

[SamiLW]

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Wow... You call yourself a pastor? You are an ignorant, close-minded brainwasher. I have studied many religions and many interpretations of the Bible and you use many of these verses out of context.

Another thing, you may have stated a bunch of verses but where is your proof that these people are homosexual or witches and wizards? I am also an English major and I have learned that an argument without evidence is a load of crap, and that is what this is; a load of crap. You're argument is questionable at best and with no evidence no one with a brain will even take a second glance at it.

How dare you accuse and judge people you don't know. I'm sure you know what the Bible says about judging others: Romans 14:10, Romans 14:4, Romans 2:1, etc... I especially like that last one. "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things." Does that sound familiar?

You are in serious need of an education in both Literature and Theology.

Well said!!

[BarbieGirl722]

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Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson are the chief priests of their Satanic cult "TAPS". They have command over the wizards and witches below them in hierarchy, as well as having a literal cult following all over the world.

This is an alert to all True Christian™ families everywhere. There is a rapidly growing menace that has formed in the past couple years which is a threat to Christianity. I'm talking about TV shows like Ghost Hunters, Most Haunted, Ghost Adventures, Paranormal State, and other paranormal-based programs as well as the huge cult that has sprung up around it.

Ghost Hunters is a TV program that first aired on the Sci-Fi network in 2004. It features a team that goes to allegedly haunted locations where they seek to communicate to demons and dabble in witchcraft. It became a hit and soon other programs of a similar nature followed. Most Haunted is pretty much a televised Ouija board session where the people aim to get closer to Satan. Ghost Adventures features three gay men who lock themselves in buildings and endure possession, and other occult experiences.

Looking like they are fresh exiting a gay nightclub, the Ghost Adventures team merges witchcraft and homosexuality and glorifies sin to TV audiences everywhere.

The Bible strictly forbids people from partaking in occult activities. Witches are even considered so evil (just like homosexuals and rebellious children) that we are commanded by God to put them to death.

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

And these "paranormal investigators" are really nothing more than witches who use modern technology to speak to the dead and erode belief in the Bible. They use devices like EVP meters to measure electronic fluctuations indicating if a demon is in their presence, and video cameras to record evidence of demon manifestation. Worse, is the ubiquitous EMF recorder, which allows the "investigators" to talk directly to the dead. These EMF recorders are nothing more than a telephone to Satan.

The voices of demons captured on soundwaves. Ghost hunters talk to these demons with their EMF recorders and the demons talk back.

Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
Deuteronomy 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, a necromancer. or a wizard, or

We can see here that these ghost hunters violate many of the Lord's commandments. They use pendulums, Ouija boards, EVP meters, cameras, etc. for divination purposes. They consult spirits and practice necromancy with their EMF recorders.

The various methods "paranormal investigators" use to commune with Satan and dark forces. In the olden days, a witch might use chicken's blood or sheep bones, but now it's about technological devices.

Ghost Hunters and other programs are more than just simple entertainment for bored teenagers. They are Satan's way of promoting occultism and witchcraft in a very beguiling way. Under the pretense of "scientific investigation", these people are nothing more than witches that want to commune with spirits and demons.

Ghost hunting always takes place in the dark. This is where they perform their rituals and pray to Satan.

Furthermore, contrary to what they may claim, they are not communicating with the souls of people who have died. When a person dies, they go to Heaven or Hell. That's it. They don't wander the earth aimlessly waiting for a bunch of overweight nerds to come along and ask them silly questions.

No, when these ghost hunters die, they don't become ghosts. They become firewood in the furnaces of Hell!

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Where ghost hunters really go!

Finally, here is the most disturbing truth. The "paranormal investigation" witches and sorcerers are not confined to the television....thousands and thousands of groups have sprung up across the country and the world, in an attempt to make contact with Satan and demons. Paranormal conventions are successful and popular, with the masses clamoring to meet each other and share their knowledge of the occult. Ghost hunters actively try to recruit people into their covens (It is no coincidence that the average size of a ghost hunting group is 13 people, just like a Wiccan coven!)

The size of the ghost hunting cults are growing. There is even a TV show called Ghost Hunters Academy where they take fresh, innocent people and brainwash them into their Satan-worshipping ways. Some local paranormal groups attempt to get involved in high schools and steer teenagers into becoming followers.

These television shows are creating a huge public interest in Satan, witchcraft, and the occult. And they do so using as much deception as possible. People are being led astray into thinking they are simply "exploring the unknown" or "scientifically investigating", but it's tantamount to signing your soul over to Satan himself.

We need to write to these TV networks and demand these paranormal shows be taken off the air. With enough people and determination, we can stop this menace before it ensnares more innocent people. We can also work to put an end to local paranormal groups. Share the Gospel with these people. Most of them are dimwitted and gullible, so they will be easy to convert, as long as they haven't dived too deeply into their demonic religious experience.

Get the word out. Do not be silent. GHOST HUNTING TV SHOWS AND PARANORMAL GROUPS ARE AGENTS OF SATAN AND NEED TO BE STOPPED!

Wow! Some very strong and harsh words for people who actually believe in the after life and perhaps even lost souls. How can you call yourself a man of God? After all what do we know about Evangelists? They propagate the use of our hard earned dollars for their own selfish desire to so call "Spread the Word". Even the word Evangelist should be spelled Evilangelist! Who are you to judge what you do not know? Have you died and risen again to know of what you speak? Remember...Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!!! I bet our Lord and Savior will have a lot to say to you when you stand before him. I only hope you learn to actually think about what you are planning to say in the future before the words come out of your mouth. All I hear coming from out of your mouth is hate and udder stupidity for what you know nothing about.

[Jack O'fagan]

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It makes me so sick to my stomach to see people claiming to be christian, who use that as an excuse to be nasty, rude, hateful people. So many of your comments are disgusting. You attack good people, because you can only make yourself feel good by putting down others. This doesn't sound like "good christian values" to me, it just sounds like pure HATE.

Proud to be a TRUE CHRISTIAN, who accepts people for who they are,

Sami L. Winchester

Can you supply the scripture that says we should accept people for what they are?

You have a strange idea of 'good Christian values'. Have you ever read the WHOLE Bible or have you just let somebody else give you their highlights?

YIC


Jack

[YouCawkSuckers]

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You people are fucking psychopaths.......You give a bad name to true Christians and are part of the reason America is such a shithole. You are the same people saying god hates the troops...I hope all of you die a horrendous death as you deserve it...All of you...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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"

Oh please! Every forum is a debate forum. That's kind of the purpose of a forum.

Contradict me again young lady, and you'll be tossed out of her like yesterday's trash.

[Jack O'fagan]

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You people are piffleing psychopaths.......You give a bad name to true Christians and are part of the reason America is such a shithole. You are the same people saying god hates the troops...I hope all of you die a horrendous death as you deserve it...All of you...

You are thinking of the liberal happy clappy Church Westboro. We support our troops.

Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.


They are correct though that God hates fags.

YIC

Jack

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Looks like someone stirred up a harlot's nest!



I'm not going to reply individually to each of the menses-inspired hallucinations posted, but I will offer a challenge: if you can show me ONE instance where a True Christian(tm) has either misquoted the KJV Bible or used it out-of-context, I will donate $1,000 to the Jesus-hating charity of your choice.

YiC,

Z. Smyth
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[KatieL]

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Give me your best shot. You are arguing with a very well-learned Christian Law student. Unless of course you cannot defend your points with evidence, in which case I shall accept your apologies and forgive you for attempting to insult me.

[tpm6302]

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I dont think you've read the book of Job chapter 4 verses 12 -17
It says " Now a thing was secretly brought to me, and mine ear received a little thereof. In thoughts from the visions of the night, when deep sleep falleth on men. Fear came upon me, and trembling, which made all my bones to shake. Then a spirit passeth before my face; the hair of my flesh stood up: It stood still, but I could not discern the form thereof: an image was before mine eyes, there was silence, and I heard a voice, saying, Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? To me this is saying it is possible for there to be spirits walking on this earth. I am a Christian I watch Ghost hunters every Wednesday night I have not yet seen them do anything in the way of devil worship in fact they try to debunk any evidence of sprits when at all possible. I have heard that when we pass away our spirit goes right away to heaven well if thats the case then what does it mean in Revelation that says the dead in Christ shall rise first if our spirit has gone to heaven when we die doesnt that mean that there could be some spirits that for whatever reason get left behind til the second coming of Christ?

[Bob4God]

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Give me your best shot. You are arguing with a very well-learned Christian Law student. Unless of course you cannot defend your points with evidence, in which case I shall accept your apologies and forgive you for attempting to insult me.

I will volunteer to address your concerns.

Firstly, your claims to be a law student clash in light of your poor composition skills and ignorance of a private forum's right to self-censor:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, whether you agree with them or not.

That was a particularly weak argument as to why we should keep you around.

Like countless others, you have also misunderstood the Bible's instructions about judging sinners.

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. - Romans 2:1

This verse is a warning against hypocrisy, not against the act of rebuking a sinner.

You are no doubt familiar with JESUS' words in Matthew 7 about picking out a speck in your brother's eye when you have a log in your own.

Do you know what JESUS says after that?

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. - Matthew 7:5

FIRST take care of yourself, THEN pick out the sins of others.

As long as you are not guilty of the sins you are condemning others for, you are free to rebuke and judge:

Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. - Luke 17:3 (ONLY forgive him if he repents!)

Since True Christians do not sin, we can judge anybody:

They also do no iniquity: They walk in his ways. - Psalm 119:3


I hope this gets you started on learning what the Bible really says!