[morning star]

Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft

Matthew 5:44
Luke 6:27
John 13:34

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft

Do you think we're so foolish that we don't know who "morning star" is?

Let's look at the scripture you are incapable of posting...

Matthew 7

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

So we will be judged as we judge. Therefore we will be judged according to scripture as that is how we judge.

Now for the umpteenth time, scripture that ORDERS us to judge.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Matthew 5:44 (King James Version)


44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

And we do pray for them, we pray that they will come to Jesus. What are we supposed to do? Tell them it's okay, hold their hand and waltz into Hell with them?

Luke 6:27 (King James Version)


27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

So again, waltzing into Hell is loving them? We want them to turn from their sinful ways, sometimes tough love is the only way to do it. Do you tell little children that it's okay to play on the edge of a cliff?

John 13:34 (King James Version)


34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Look at that one in context, he was telling the apostles to love each other. Nowhere did he say go party with the sinners.

Now did you even know what those scripture said? Or did you just copy the list from somewhere.

[Phebe Carlyle]

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Why are you posting references to "judgement" scripture, morning star?

Care to elaborate?

Oh whilst you are online, how about you head over to the Introduction Forum and make an... INTRODUCTION.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft

Oh whilst you are online, how about you head over to the Introduction Forum and make an... INTRODUCTION.

The only problem is their introduction will probably just be a Bible verse number.

Anyways, I just want to say this thread is more important than ever now that Halloween is upon us. October is the month those paranormal covens recruit as many people into their cults as possible, since they have to meet the yearly quotas. Expect to see more ghost hunting shows on TV. Spread the word far and wide: WATCHING PARANORMAL TV SHOWS AND ENGAGING IN SO-CALLED "GHOST HUNTING" IS AN ABOMINATION BEFORE GOD AND A STAMPED TICKET STRAIGHT TO HELL!

[catholic_girl]

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Lets take into account that the King aJaes 2nd bible was a 3rd translation. which was written to confirm the ecclesiology and episcopalm ways of hte church of england, thus straying from the original paths. It differs from it's 1st translation of the great bible.

So let us take this step-by-step, so that we are not making a mockery (considering that is against the christian religon, thus not making us christian, hint there)

First, the Church forbids (I wouldn't strain too much on that word, considering certain branches in the vatican deal with spiritual sides) us to call up the dead (Catechism 2116-2117). There is a book by Peter Kreeft called Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Heaven, he says that the reason for “this stricture is probably protection against the danger of deception by evil spirits. We are out of our depth, our knowledge, and our control once we open the doors to the supernatural. The only openings that are safe for us are the ones God has approved: revelation, prayer, His own miracles, sacraments, and primarily Christ Himself…The danger is not physical but spiritual, and spiritual danger always centers on deception.”

“Nevertheless, without our action or invitation, the dead often do appear to the living. There is enormous evidence of “ghosts” in all cultures. What are we to make of them?” He goes on to say “We can distinguish three kinds of ghosts, I believe. First, the most familiar kind: the sad ones, the wispy ones. They seem to be working out some unfinished earthly business, or suffering some purgatorial purification until released from their earthly business. These ghosts would seem to be the ones who just barely made it to Purgatory, who feel little or no joy yet and who need to learn many painful lessons about their past lives on earth.

Second, there are deceptive spirits, a spirit does not change it's ways from life, when it passes over and since they are deceptive, they hardly ever appear malicious. These are mostly the ones who respond to conjurings at seances. They probably come from a more hotter climate . Even the chance of that happening should be sufficient to terrify away all temptations to necromancy."

"Third, there are bright, happy spirits of dead friends and family, especially spouses, who appear unbidden, at God's will, not ours, with messages of hope and love. They seem to come from Heaven. Unlike the purgatorial ghosts who come back primarily for their own sakes, these bright spirits come back for the sake of us the living, to tell us all is well. They are aped by evil spirits who say the same, who speak 'peace, peace, when there is no peace'. But the deception works only one way: the fake can deceive by appearing genuine, but the genuine never deceives by appearing fake."

“That there are all three kinds of ghosts is enormously likely. Even taking into account our penchant to deceive and be deceived, our credulity and fakery, there remain so many trustworthy accounts of all three types of ghosts - trustworthy by every ordinary empirical and psychological standard - that only a dogmatic prejudice against them could prevent us from believing they exist. As Chesterton says, 'We believe an old apple woman when she says she ate an apple; but when she says she saw a ghost, we say 'But she's only an old apple woman.' A most undemocratic and unscientific prejudice."


How do we know that there isn't life after death, Jesus rose 'from the ashes', nothing solid to say he didn't rise as a spirit

As a christian, it is ones duty to NOT JUDGE..........remember this little passage;

'Matthew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'

'Matthew 7:1 - Judge not lest ye be judged'

'1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.'

Who are we to look down on other religional beliefs, after all, there were religions befoer Christ, which remember, Jesus was not a judger, he loved every man and woman

But I agree, that if you go looking for trouble.....................

[catholic_girl]

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sorry about typos.

As for 'witches', if people bothered to actually do some research, it means wise woman, these people we more herbalists, medicines and not what society led us to believe.

It is un-christian of people to force beliefs onto others, bully those who do not agree and to condemn and slander those who are not of your following. There are many beliefs out there, not all believe in OUR god, Islam sees a prophet, Pagan does not see him.

Remember that the Roman church changed Pagan celebrations into that of christian ones, so that we would remember, for example - Christmas - 'birth of the son god', changed to 'the son of god'.............I am not small minded to understand that FACT. The Romans and prior were very good at documenting back then. 'Searaching for spirits' is not a new age concept, it was going on long before Jesus walked the earth.

[Phebe Carlyle]

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sorry about typos.

As for 'witches', if people bothered to actually do some research, it means wise woman, these people we more herbalists, medicines and not what society led us to believe.

It is un-christian of people to force beliefs onto others, bully those who do not agree and to condemn and slander those who are not of your following. There are many beliefs out there, not all believe in OUR god, Islam sees a prophet, Pagan does not see him.

Remember that the Roman church changed Pagan celebrations into that of christian ones, so that we would remember, for example - Christmas - 'birth of the son god', changed to 'the son of god'.............I am not small minded to understand that FACT. The Romans and prior were very good at documenting back then. 'Searaching for spirits' is not a new age concept, it was going on long before Jesus walked the earth.

Cathlicks aren't Christians but by the sounds of it, at least SOME of them (namely you) appear to be witches. You are certainly trying to defend them.

Why are you a mary worshipping idolater?

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Brother Harold Porter]

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Who are we to look down on other religional beliefs, after all, there were religions befoer Christ, which remember, Jesus was not a judger, he loved every man and woman

But I agree, that if you go looking for trouble.....................

So you are asking Christians to respect your witchcraft?

May God smite you

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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sorry about typos.

As for 'witches', if people bothered to actually do some research, it means wise woman, these people we more herbalists, medicines and not what society led us to believe.

So what does "sorcerer" mean? "Good cook"? How about "familiar spirit"? Is that a friendly dog?

What other words would you care to redefine to make God look silly?

It is un-christian of people to force beliefs onto others, bully those who do not agree and to condemn and slander those who are not of your following.

True. It is Christian to execute those who refuse to follow God. However, as we are bound by secular law at present, we can only explain to those who hate Jesus that they are condemning themselves and their children to an eternity of torture in God's Hell.

Remember that the Roman church changed Pagan celebrations into that of christian ones, so that we would remember, for example - Christmas - 'birth of the son god', changed to 'the son of god'.............I am not small minded to understand that FACT. The Romans and prior were very good at documenting back then. 'Searaching for spirits' is not a new age concept, it was going on long before Jesus walked the earth.

No, the Catholic Cult under Constantine appropriated Pagan celebrations to get buy-in from the populace as Christianity became the official religion. Soon, pogroms against the Pagans would follow.

[BelieverInGod]

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sorry about typos.

As for 'witches', if people bothered to actually do some research, it means wise woman, these people we more herbalists, medicines and not what society led us to believe.

It is un-christian of people to force beliefs onto others, bully those who do not agree and to condemn and slander those who are not of your following. There are many beliefs out there, not all believe in OUR god, Islam sees a prophet, Pagan does not see him.

Remember that the Roman church changed Pagan celebrations into that of christian ones, so that we would remember, for example - Christmas - 'birth of the son god', changed to 'the son of god'.............I am not small minded to understand that FACT. The Romans and prior were very good at documenting back then. 'Searaching for spirits' is not a new age concept, it was going on long before Jesus walked the earth.

You are absolutely right, Roman catholicism is nothing more than Roman paganism with Jesus stamped on it.

Now go back to your Juno Mary worship, or give it up and start reading the KING JAMES 1611 AUTHORIZED BIBLE.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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As a christian, it is ones duty to NOT JUDGE..........remember this little passage;

'Matthew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'

'Matthew 7:1 - Judge not lest ye be judged'

'1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.'

You couldn't be more wrong. The Bible actually commands us to judge others. It is our Christian duty. Please read my easy-to-understand sermon about Matthew 7:1-5.

Who are we to look down on other religional beliefs, after all, there were religions befoer Christ, which remember, Jesus was not a judger, he loved every man and woman

So I guess Satanism is a-okay in your book, right? Who are we as Christians to judge people who ritually slaughter animals and feast on their blood? Who are we to judge Islamists who strap TNT to their chests and walk into a crowded market full of women and children?

Other religions are evil because they are of Satan. The only way to get to heaven is through Jesus Christ. Why should we be tolerant of evil? Why should we respect organizations that are dedicated to dragging as many souls to hell as possible?

As for Jesus not being a judge...then who judges? Does not God judge us? You liberal salad bar false Christians love to say "Only God can judge me". Well, if so, isn't Jesus God? Or is that another part of the Bible you casually ignore?

Still, to claim that "Jesus is not a judge" shows how little you know of Christianity. The whole point of the book of Revelation is about how Christ will come back and judge us! You really should try reading it before you start spouting off nonsense and showing just how ignorant you are of Jesus's teachings.

[catholic_girl]

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Actually, satanism doesn't worship the devil.

Who you call 'satan' was actually formed by the catholic chuch (remember the original christianity ). Many moons before christians walked this earth, they worshipped gods, pagans still do. These 'gods' are still worshipped by them, who are we to judge 'Demons' is a name for ALL gods, good, not so good and slightly bad.

I am not a witch, never have been, nice of you to be small minded to say so

I thought Orthodox was bad, clearly wrong. So when you guys gonna put your white hoods on and start burning the 'dangerous black people'??

[Phebe Carlyle]

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Actually, satanism doesn't worship the devil.

Who you call 'satan' was actually formed by the catholic chuch (remember the original christianity ). Many moons before christians walked this earth, they worshipped gods, pagans still do. These 'gods' are still worshipped by them, who are we to judge 'Demons' is a name for ALL gods, good, not so good and slightly bad.

I am not a witch, never have been, nice of you to be small minded to say so

I thought Orthodox was bad, clearly wrong. So when you guys gonna put your white hoods on and start burning the 'dangerous black people'??

Hmm.. You're certainly a racist and bigot aren't you.

CHRIST originated Christianity; not some child molesting wops a couple hundred years later.



YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft

Actually, satanism doesn't worship the devil.

Who you call 'satan' was actually formed by the catholic chuch (remember the original christianity ). Many moons before christians walked this earth, they worshipped gods, pagans still do. These 'gods' are still worshipped by them, who are we to judge

So, let's see:

You call yourself a Catholic, yet you think it's fine for pagans to worship false gods and send themselves to Hell for their disbelief. You want us to let them go on their merry Hellbound path.

Why do you hate pagans? Is it because they don't bathe frequently?


You say Satan was created by the Catholic cult. I assume you've never read the Bible (most Catholics never do), and don't know that Satan is mentioned in the OLD TESTAMENT. That is, before Jesus and well before the Catholic cult.

'Demons' is a name for ALL gods, good, not so good and slightly bad.

I think your precious Pope Maledict would disagree with you.

I thought Orthodox was bad, clearly wrong. So when you guys gonna put your white hoods on and start burning the 'dangerous black people'??

Orthodox what? Judaism? Russian Orthodox "Christianity"?

What does religion have to do with racism? It sounds like you're the racist here, Missy.

[Whispers]

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I normally would not post anything on a message board, but this struck a cord with me.

I grew up with a very religious family and have always gone to church on a regular basis. Growing up, we were always told that the only ghost was the Holy Ghost and we were not to believe otherwise. I knew this was not a fact at all, as I had experienced many paranormal events, but I did not want to disagree with my elders or the church.

I am now an adult and a few years ago I started investigating the paranormal. To say that ghost hunters promote witchcraft is just crazy. It is my faith that drives me, not devil worship or witchery. That is just insulting on so many levels.

I live in Jerry Falwell country, so I was surprised to find that many other religious people believe in ghosts, but it seems all of them have had some sort of experience that forced them to believe. Maybe that's what it takes.