[RumDumDum]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Jesus doesn't exist, some person made that up and call your book "the bible" you stupid queers

[Joe Mama]

"TeAm ForTrEss 2 Is A VerY BaD GaME111!!!!" 🤪

Team Fortress 2 is not bad at all and I actually play it myself.

There is no "bad words (unless user generated), god bashing, anti-american propaganda" and there is ABSOLUTELY NO "homesexuality"


You are out of your mind woman. You have manipulated everything your child said and manipulated everything you can.


Please know that this game is not bad at all, and that some people have manipulation issues

[baseballdad]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I HATE the invaders of this thread due to the fact that because of these christ haters snowflake democrats i cant us baseball-dad as my name i just want to show that my kids play one of god's favorite sports and they ruined it these kids need a good whoopin

[James Hutchins]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Cause GTA 5, a game about murder, corruption, and theft is meant to be for children. Its not some random rating, you cant buy it if you arent old enough. You need consent from a parent or guardian to own it if you do not meet the criteria. The steam page says "This content may not be suitable for younger audiences, Do you wish to proceed?" It even says, its not suitable for young children. Its not a kids game, and by that logic, h games are for kids, which they arent.

Son, only a perverted deviant plays unChristian video games. You all start off the Mario brothers (raping little girls) then Angry Birds (and not eating your kill) and migrating to stealing cars. When does it end son? Sodomy with statues?
Every time you masturbate to one of these 'so-called' games, thousands of babies die, crusty deaths and tiny voices never heard.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

The youtube videos are people reading OFFICIAL COMICS. If you could understand that you are wrong for once in your life then you would figure this out.


They arent promoting their own content. They are saying that its not suitable for children. Its also not biased because its a legal requirement. It has a Mature rating. I told you this, but you said its not relevant.


Yes, it does count actually. And you say peer reviewed. That means the people that play this game. You are not my peers. You are crazy people.


The videos are not tedious or uninformative. They explain a story to a game with a vast amount of lore. But you refuse to use it since its youtube. So i dunno about that. And of course i use things that support my side. Im not gonna use your god awful stand point.


And im not gonna look at posts of genuine psychopaths that look too deep into angry birds for gods sake.


You do realize... We are talking about a video game... This is actual research in this scenario. Canon and game play applies here. We arent talking about cars or cream. Its a free game that actively says kids shouldn't play it


The law applies. You cant play it if its not in your age range. Her kid wasnt allowed to play the game. He did not ask for consent if he could play, but this mom blew it way out of proportion. He was having fun and suddenly she turns it into "Heavy and Medic are banging in the back room" You see what im saying?

I do understand what you are saying but you don't seem to understand that you seem to be a case of arrested development. If you could come to that understanding it would be a first step for your return to normalcy. I am certain that there was a time when you engaged in childish things because you were a child and that is good. However, there is a time to put away childish pursuits and grow into an adult. There are many who never do and that is why these devilish video games are available for their use.

My advice is to try to stay off the games for a few days and see if that will help. You may find that Jesus will come into your life and save you. Of course, we here will be happy to attempt to save you by offering good advice and guidance.

It's that or Hell, friend. Don't go there; it's too hot.

God Bless!

[Elmer G. White]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I can get that second coming part, but you yawn at a man mourning his dead son? These people are crazy...

You know that this is just another fallacious ad hominem argument, don't you?

Jude 1:18
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Elmer G. White]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

The youtube videos are people reading OFFICIAL COMICS. If you could understand that you are wrong for once in your life then you would figure this out.

As I told you, being official within an imaginary canon is not evidence for any wider discussion about the issue. Internal consistency does not mean a thing is objectively useful or even safe.

They arent promoting their own content. They are saying that its not suitable for children. Its also not biased because its a legal requirement. It has a Mature rating. I told you this, but you said its not relevant.

We are not denying that his game is not suitable for children. We are saying that it is not suitable for anyone. That is where your bias comes into play.

Yes, it does count actually. And you say peer reviewed. That means the people that play this game. You are not my peers. You are crazy people.

This is the equivocation fallacy. Peer-review in science does not mean that "your peers" would become experts when applying this silly game to its general effects on the population.

The videos are not tedious or uninformative. They explain a story to a game with a vast amount of lore. But you refuse to use it since its youtube. So i dunno about that. And of course i use things that support my side. Im not gonna use your god awful stand point.

As we told you: the internal consistency or "canon" is not evidence when assessing the usefulness or harm of this game. It is nice that you now admit your bias, of using things that support your side. That excludes you from serious scholarship. Serious science also considers issues that would falsify one's hypothesis. In addition, you're now using poisoning of well fallacy of never even aiming to look at the evidence (the Bible) that your opposition provides.

And im not gonna look at posts of genuine psychopaths that look too deep into angry birds for gods sake.

This is just an ad hominem fallacy, an appeal to person. Being distasteful or in your opinion insane is irrelevant to the actual evidence material. We're assessing that and if you wish to engage in civilized conversation, you should do that, as well.

Ephesians 4:31
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

You do realize... We are talking about a video game... This is actual research in this scenario. Canon and game play applies here. We arent talking about cars or cream. Its a free game that actively says kids shouldn't play it

In which manner is "canon" actual research? What are its hypotheses? How do they test anything and send it out for objective assessment?

The law applies. You cant play it if its not in your age range. Her kid wasnt allowed to play the game. He did not ask for consent if he could play, but this mom blew it way out of proportion. He was having fun and suddenly she turns it into "Heavy and Medic are banging in the back room" You see what im saying?

Are all things that are allowed according to laws useful, healthy, absolutely not harmful in any manner? Can you find any examples of the contrary (that would be an exercise in alternative hypotheses)? For "having fun" please consult Luke 14:26.


Yours in Christ,


Elmer

[thrrowaway]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

I can get that second coming part, but you yawn at a man mourning his dead son? These people are crazy...

[thrrowaway]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Are you actually claiming that youtube videos are some kind of evidence. We know that literacy is waning in this generation, but this is really over-the-top. You do not really seem to realize that the "canon" of a TV show or a silly game is of absolutely no interest for us. The general issue of the harmful (spiritually devastating) nature of these games as determined by the scientific community or the Christian community is what interests us.
This is flabbergasting! Valve made the steam page and the same buch of people made the silly game called TF2. Basically, the're assessing their own product. How on God's Earth is that not biased?! And don't try us on the criterion of embarrassment - the exegetics tried that and failed.

You are a person with personal interest invested in this game. Your agreeing with the makers of this product may make it official within the "canon" of the game but once again, it remains anecdotal and now even more heavily biased. We do know that you've been seduced by these silly games and you lack any education on epistemology. Hitherto, that's been understandable but it won't be it any longer now that you've sneaked your way here. This is your chance to get an education. How do you test the Truth™ value of a proposition?


Next: Let us list the fallacies you make (we can continue this in the future).

• Appeal to authority: both yours and of the unknown persons who made the game. An authority can be wrong. Their word does not count. Only actual peer-reviewed evidence does, and in this case peers do not mean others who play this silly game.
• Cherry picking: using only sources that agree with you, for instance these videos that I would find both tedious and uninformative.
• Confirmation bias: accepting only information that supports your preconceptions and ignoring all the thousands of posts in this thread.

It is most interesting that you find the makers of this game the most reliable source that outweighs actual research. Do you utilize this strategy in each and every case when you for instance buy stuff? "We made this car and say it's safe so let's not look at any statistics, This cream will make your face look young, because those who are getting all the money from it say so." A good epistemological toolbox is something that can be employed everywhere. People who simple accept things that they feel comfortable with are those who are little better than slaves of the advertising systems. Those are the people who can easily be manipulated.

I'll try to make it visual for easy understanding:

• Videos as evidence
• Those with emotional or financial interest (this "steam")as reliable authorities
• Internal consistency within a "canon" ("official") as evidence
• Personal anecdotes as evidence
• Law (we follow it but do not necessarily think that it is good in all cases) as evidence for spiritual issues

James 4:16
But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.

Yours in Christ,

Elmer

The youtube videos are people reading OFFICIAL COMICS. If you could understand that you are wrong for once in your life then you would figure this out.


They arent promoting their own content. They are saying that its not suitable for children. Its also not biased because its a legal requirement. It has a Mature rating. I told you this, but you said its not relevant.


Yes, it does count actually. And you say peer reviewed. That means the people that play this game. You are not my peers. You are crazy people.


The videos are not tedious or uninformative. They explain a story to a game with a vast amount of lore. But you refuse to use it since its youtube. So i dunno about that. And of course i use things that support my side. Im not gonna use your god awful stand point.


And im not gonna look at posts of genuine psychopaths that look too deep into angry birds for gods sake.


You do realize... We are talking about a video game... This is actual research in this scenario. Canon and game play applies here. We arent talking about cars or cream. Its a free game that actively says kids shouldn't play it


The law applies. You cant play it if its not in your age range. Her kid wasnt allowed to play the game. He did not ask for consent if he could play, but this mom blew it way out of proportion. He was having fun and suddenly she turns it into "Heavy and Medic are banging in the back room" You see what im saying?

[Elmer G. White]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

• Videos as evidence
• Those with emotional or financial interest (this "steam")as reliable authorities
• Internal consistency within a "canon" ("official") as evidence
• Personal anecdotes as evidence
• Law (we follow it but do not necessarily think that it is good in all cases) as evidence for spiritual issues

Also watch Expiration Date. Proof that scout is dating Ms. Pauling. Medic and Heavy are just friends. Heavy has 300 HP, medic has 125. Heavy can take much more damage. And with medic behind him, he can get constant healing from medic, making him semi invincible. Spy is Scouts father according to the Comic "The Naked and the Dead" Spy disguises as Tom Jones, so he can hold his son one last time before Scout dies, without revealing who he really is. Spy tells Scout how proud of him he is as a father. But Scout is revived by God (and i mean this when i say it, this is Canon) Because he is gods gift to humanity. He is literally the second coming. This is true by the way.

Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[thrrowaway]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I gave you evidence on why soldier isnt a real soldier. Ill even give you the link to the comic saying that he is a lead poinsoned idiot, and that he isnt a real soldier. Here is a dub of the full comic:
Go to 15:52 in the video for evidence saying he is lead poisoned

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XLIv_R07OGU

He isnt a real soldier: (11:12)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ClHraX4uW7E

These are official comics, however, these are not the actual voice actors. Its like an audio book, if you will


The steam page says its not meant for kids. Steam is made by Valve. Valve made TF2. Not biased.


You should take my word for it because its official. You shouldnt have to look for a peer reviewed source when its confirmed by Valve, the creators.

Also watch Expiration Date. Proof that scout is dating Ms. Pauling. Medic and Heavy are just friends. Heavy has 300 HP, medic has 125. Heavy can take much more damage. And with medic behind him, he can get constant healing from medic, making him semi invincible. Spy is Scouts father according to the Comic "The Naked and the Dead" Spy disguises as Tom Jones, so he can hold his son one last time before Scout dies, without revealing who he really is. Spy tells Scout how proud of him he is as a father. But Scout is revived by God (and i mean this when i say it, this is Canon) Because he is gods gift to humanity. He is literally the second coming. This is true by the way.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I gave you evidence on why soldier isnt a real soldier. Ill even give you the link to the comic saying that he is a lead poinsoned idiot, and that he isnt a real soldier. Here is a dub of the full comic:
Go to 15:52 in the video for evidence saying he is lead poisoned

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XLIv_R07OGU

He isnt a real soldier: (11:12)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ClHraX4uW7E

These are official comics, however, these are not the actual voice actors. Its like an audio book, if you will

Are you actually claiming that youtube videos are some kind of evidence. We know that literacy is waning in this generation, but this is really over-the-top. You do not really seem to realize that the "canon" of a TV show or a silly game is of absolutely no interest for us. The general issue of the harmful (spiritually devastating) nature of these games as determined by the scientific community or the Christian community is what interests us.

The steam page says its not meant for kids. Steam is made by Valve. Valve made TF2. Not biased.

This is flabbergasting! Valve made the steam page and the same bunch of people made the silly game called TF2. Basically, the're assessing their own product. How on God's Earth is that not biased?! And don't try us on the criterion of embarrassment - the exegetics tried that and failed.

You should take my word for it because its official. You shouldnt have to look for a peer reviewed source when its confirmed by Valve, the creators.

You are a person with personal interest invested in this game. Your agreeing with the makers of this product may make it official within the "canon" of the game but once again, it remains anecdotal and now even more heavily biased. We do know that you've been seduced by these silly games and you lack any education on epistemology. Hitherto, that's been understandable but it won't be it any longer now that you've sneaked your way here. This is your chance to get an education. How do you test the Truth™ value of a proposition?


Next: Let us list the fallacies you make (we can continue this in the future).

• Appeal to authority: both yours and of the unknown persons who made the game. An authority can be wrong. Their word does not count. Only actual peer-reviewed evidence does, and in this case peers do not mean others who play this silly game.
• Cherry picking: using only sources that agree with you, for instance these videos that I would find both tedious and uninformative.
• Confirmation bias: accepting only information that supports your preconceptions and ignoring all the thousands of posts in this thread.

It is most interesting that you find the makers of this game the most reliable source that outweighs actual research. Do you utilize this strategy in each and every case when you for instance buy stuff? "We made this car and say it's safe so let's not look at any statistics, This cream will make your face look young, because those who are getting all the money from it say so." A good epistemological toolbox is something that can be employed everywhere. People who simple accept things that they feel comfortable with are those who are little better than slaves of the advertising systems. Those are the people who can easily be manipulated.

I'll try to make it visual for easy understanding:

• Videos as evidence
• Those with emotional or financial interest (this "steam")as reliable authorities
• Internal consistency within a "canon" ("official") as evidence
• Personal anecdotes as evidence
• Law (we follow it but do not necessarily think that it is good in all cases) as evidence for spiritual issues

James 4:16
But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.

Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[thrrowaway]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

This does not assess the detrimental nature of these silly games to young adults over 18. In addition, the legal status of these silly games is unimportant regarding the issue at hand.
Clearly a biased source.Personal anecdotes are not robust evidence. Is there anything that one could not justify by personal preference? The Catholics justify kiddie molesting based on that.Simply stating that you personally know something does not count as evidence. This whole forum is dedicated to presenting evidence for the superiority of the Bible as the Truth™We are not interested in whether this game is legal. We know it is. Our concern is that it harms the soul of the gamer and prohibits his entry into Heaven.At least you admit that being a sodomite is a choice and not something innate (albeit it is heraditary in the manner of Exodus 20:5). However, I did ask for actual peer-reviewed literature and not just your claims. You never answered why we should take your word for it instead of the word of a good Christian woman.You never answered why we should take your word for it instead of the word of a good Christian woman.

Ergo: You gave us more opinions and plain claims without any Biblical of even secular science to back it up. The legal status of this game is not relevant to Jesus. What matters is the spiritual harm. Furthermore, your personal experiences with this game can be biased as far as we know, as there is no way to tell based on your posts if you're rational enough to assess this thing objectively. That is why your narrative anecdotes are not robust evidence. You need to do much better to convince us that your claims are better substantiated than those of our Brethren or even those of True Christian™ women of lesser intellect.

Romans 10:3
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

I gave you evidence on why soldier isnt a real soldier. Ill even give you the link to the comic saying that he is a lead poinsoned idiot, and that he isnt a real soldier. Here is a dub of the full comic:
Go to 15:52 in the video for evidence saying he is lead poisoned

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XLIv_R07OGU

He isnt a real soldier: (11:12)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ClHraX4uW7E

These are official comics, however, these are not the actual voice actors. Its like an audio book, if you will


The steam page says its not meant for kids. Steam is made by Valve. Valve made TF2. Not biased.


You should take my word for it because its official. You shouldnt have to look for a peer reviewed source when its confirmed by Valve, the creators.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I gave you several facts in my last post, actually.
1. The legality of owning a game above your age range without consent of a parent or guardian

This does not assess the detrimental nature of these silly games to young adults over 18. In addition, the legal status of these silly games is unimportant regarding the issue at hand.

2. The steam page.

Clearly a biased source.

3. These are things that i personally know.

Personal anecdotes are not robust evidence. Is there anything that one could not justify by personal preference? The Catholics justify kiddie molesting based on that.

4. Simply saying that a book says something does not count as evidence.

Simply stating that you personally know something does not count as evidence. This whole forum is dedicated to presenting evidence for the superiority of the Bible as the Truth™

5. Literally look on steam and legal documents. Its all there.

We are not interested in whether this game is legal. We know it is. Our concern is that it harms the soul of the gamer and prohibits his entry into Heaven.

6. There isnt stuff in the video game coding that turns the kids gay, thats their own choice if they are attracted to their own gender.

At least you admit that being a sodomite is a choice and not something innate (albeit it is heraditary in the manner of Exodus 20:5). However, I did ask for actual peer-reviewed literature and not just your claims.

[Things about game, and comic book lore]
7. The Soldier is not a real soldier. I explained this. Due to lead poisoning his IQ has dropped significantly. But i guess the official creators of the game saying that is just some random guy.

You never answered why we should take your word for it instead of the word of a good Christian woman.

8. Literally everyone is straight in the game. The Medic was even in a straight relation ship. Heavy has a family. Scout is dating Ms. Pauling. Soldier is refered to as Mr. Jane Doe, Which most likely means he is a married man. Spy is scouts FATHER.

You never answered why we should take your word for it instead of the word of a good Christian woman.

Ergo: You gave us more opinions and plain claims without any Biblical of even secular science to back it up. The legal status of this game is not relevant to Jesus. What matters is the spiritual harm. Furthermore, your personal experiences with this game can be biased as far as we know, as there is no way to tell based on your posts if you're rational enough to assess this thing objectively. That is why your narrative anecdotes are not robust evidence. You need to do much better to convince us that your claims are better substantiated than those of our Brethren or even those of True Christian™ women of lesser intellect.

Romans 10:3
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[thrrowaway]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Dear Sinner,

Our point is that obviously these silly games are not suitable for younger games - it will turn them gay - but nor are they suitable for anyone as it will enforce their homosexuality that God abhors. This is clearly exhibited by the carnal relationships that the secular doctor in this game has with a soldier who is not a soldier for Christ. Q.E.D. Now, it is time you answered some questions and assessed a few issues:

• Why should we trust your judgment? You've only given us opinions so far, not any actual evidence.
• If your arguments are atheist/secular, please give us at least some peer-reviewed papers on the topic of "Team fortress AND homosexuality". You can use, for instance, PubMed or in extreme need Google Scholar.
• We have given you lots of evidence besides opinions. The Bible is our evidence. If you don't accept it as proof, please explain why you find it unreliable.
• Who are you?

Please, you need to understand at this stage that simply claiming that someone has said something does not count as evidence, nor do the categorizations of commercial companies, in whose interest it is to seduce as many young people as possible to buy their silly games.

Galatians 1:10
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

I gave you several facts in my last post, actually.
1. The legality of owning a game above your age range without consent of a parent or guardian
2. The steam page.
3. These are things that i personally know.
4. Simply saying that a book says something does not count as evidence.
5. Literally look on steam and legal documents. Its all there.
6. There isnt stuff in the video game coding that turns the kids gay, thats their own choice if they are attracted to their own gender.


[Things about game, and comic book lore]
7. The Soldier is not a real soldier. I explained this. Due to lead poisoning his IQ has dropped significantly. But i guess the official creators of the game saying that is just some random guy.
8. Literally everyone is straight in the game. The Medic was even in a straight relation ship. Heavy has a family. Scout is dating Ms. Pauling. Soldier is refered to as Mr. Jane Doe, Which most likely means he is a married man. Spy is scouts FATHER.