[metalbrain]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

In other words you don't care about the message in the song, just how the music sound.
Wich prove me right.

You don't like the music and therefore make it easy for you to say that there are no christian metal bands, not that im surprised christians make it easy for them.
Is it really that hard to make that narrow minded heads capable to accept that there can be people that try to spread gods words where you are to afraid to go?

[James Hutchins]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

In other words you don't care about the message in the song, just how the music sound.
Wich prove me right.

You don't like the music and therefore make it easy for you to say that there are no christian metal bands, not that im surprised christians make it easy for them.
Is it really that hard to make that narrow minded heads capable to accept that there can be people that try to spread gods words where you are to afraid to go?

I tell you what friend. You seem to have very strong feelings and appear to firmly believe you are right about this subject. Because of your claimed all encompassing knowledge that is everything metal related, please do this for us. Show us where in the Bible that God tells us Metal music is good for us.

[metalbrain]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Show us where in the Bible that God tells us Metal music is good for us.

Sure, when you show me the opposite

[James Hutchins]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Sure, when you show me the opposite

Friend, previous posters explained it all. You make the claim God approves, show me. Put up or shut up, friend.

If you like, once you supply your proof, I'll denounce it. Anything for a fledging Christian!

[metalbrain]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Well i asked all of you to show where the bible says heavy metal is bad a long time ago so i asked you first. So why are you too avoiding to answer?

[James Hutchins]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Well i asked all of you to show where the bible says heavy metal is bad a long time ago so i asked you first. So why are you too avoiding to answer?

Friend, you never asked me, why the bad attitude? Are you you metal people like this? Does it scramble your brains?
I really know little about music, I just sing the Hymns my Pastor gives me. You claim to be an authority so, well you can see why I thought you knew what you were talking about.
You sounded so sure of yourself so I thought you must know. But I guess you do not. You should not tell lies in Gods forum. It will send you to Hell.

Do you know this song? It certainly is catchy!

I've got the joy, joy, joy, joy down in my heart
Where?
Down in my heart!
Where?
Down in my heart!
I've got the joy, joy, joy, joy down in my heart
Down in my heart to stay

And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart
Down in my heart
And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart.

I've got the love of Jesus, love of Jesus
Down in my heart
Where?
Down in my heart!
Where?
Down in my heart!
I've got the love of Jesus, love of Jesus
Down in my heart
Where?
Down in my heart to stay.

And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart
Down in my heart
And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart.

I've got the peace that passes understanding
Way down in the depths of my heart!
Where?
Down in the depths of my heart!
Where?
Down in the depths of my heart!
I've got the peace that passes understanding
Way down in the depths of my heart!
Down in my heart to stay

And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart
Down in my heart
And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart.

And if the Devil doesn't like it
He can sit on a tack!
Ouch!
Sit on a tack!
Ouch!
Sit on a tack!
And if the Devil doesn't like it
He can sit on a tack!
Ouch!
Sit on a tack to stay!

And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart
Down in my heart
And I'm so happy
So very happy
I've got the love of Jesus in my heart.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Well i asked all of you to show where the bible says heavy metal is bad a long time ago so i asked you first. So why are you too avoiding to answer?

The Holy Bible says that perverts are hated by God. It is a fact that heavy metal musician and fan is a pervert.

I rest my case.

[metalbrain]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Friend, you never asked me

Yes i did

Btw, exactly where does the bible mention heavy metal?
You've got this question so many times but always avoid to answer, don't you have the answer?
I doubt a 2000 year old book could mention a music genre that was invented 42 years ago.

And i still waiting for an answer

[James Hutchins]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Yes i did

No friend, I merely offered my hand in close friendship and then I asked you a simple question as you come across as a very knowledgeable person. Are you telling me that you were lying and that you have no idea? I hope you were not pulling my leg. God does not like fibbers.

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour" (Exodus 20:16, the eighth Commandment).
"…true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:23-24).
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Leviticus 6:1-4, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, If a soul sin, and commit a trespass against the LORD, and lie unto his neighbour…or hath deceived his neighbour…and lieth concerning it, and sweareth falsely; in any of all these that a man doeth, sinning therein: Then it shall be, because he hath sinned, and is guilty,"
Leviticus 19:11, "Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another."
Job 11:3,5, "Should thy lies make men hold their peace? and when thou mockest, shall no man make thee ashamed? But oh that God would speak, and open his lips against thee;"
Job 13:4, "But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value."
Job 24:25, "...who will make me a liar, and make my speech nothing worth?"
Psalms 24:4-5, "He…who hath not…sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the LORD,"
Psalms 31:6, "I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the LORD."
Psalms 31:18, "Let the lying lips be put to silence;"
Psalms 40:4, "Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies."
Psalms 52:2-4, "Thy tongue deviseth mischiefs; like a sharp razor, working deceitfully. Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah. Thou lovest all devouring words, O thou deceitful tongue."
Psalms 58:3, "The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies."
Psalms 59:12, "For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak."
Psalms 62:3-4, "… ye shall be slain all of you…they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly."
Psalms 63:11, "...the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped."
Psalms 101:7, "He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight."
Psalms 109:2, "For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue."
Psalms 119:29, "Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me thy law graciously."
Psalms 119:69, "The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart."
Psalms 119:163, "I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love."
Psalms 120:2, "Deliver my soul, O LORD, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue."
Proverbs 6:16-19, "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 8:7, "For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips."
Proverbs 10:18, "He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool."
Proverbs 12:19, "The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment."
Proverbs 12:22, "Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight."
Proverbs 13:5, "A righteous man hateth lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and cometh to shame."
Proverbs 14:5, "A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies."
Proverbs 14:25, "A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies."
Proverbs 17:4, "A wicked doer giveth heed to false lips; and a liar giveth ear to a naughty tongue."
Proverbs 17:7, "Excellent speech becometh not a fool: much less do lying lips a prince."
Proverbs 19:5, "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape."
Proverbs 19:9, "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish."
Proverbs 19:22, "The desire of a man is his kindness: and a poor man is better than a liar."
Proverbs 21:6, "The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a vanity tossed to and fro of them that seek death."
Proverbs 26:28, "A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin."
Proverbs 29:12, "If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked."
Proverbs 30:6, "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar."
Proverbs 30:8, "Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:"
Isaiah 28:15,17, "Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement;…for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:…the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place."
Isaiah 30:9, "That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:"
Isaiah 32:7, "The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right."
Isaiah 44:24-25, "…I am the LORD…That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad;"
Isaiah 59:2-4, "But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. For…your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness...they trust in vanity, and speak lies; "
Isaiah 59:12-13, "For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them; In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood."
Isaiah 63:8, "For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour."
Jeremiah 7:4, "Trust ye not in lying words,"
Jeremiah 7:8-9, "Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. Will ye…swear falsely…and walk after other gods…?"
Jeremiah 9:3, "And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD."
Jeremiah 9:5, "And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity."
Jeremiah 14:14, "Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart."
Jeremiah 15:18, "Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, which refuseth to be healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail?"
Jeremiah 16:19, "...Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit."
Jeremiah 23:14, "I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies:"
Jeremiah 23:26, "How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;"
Jeremiah 23:32, "Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD."
Jeremiah 27:10, "For they prophesy a lie unto you, to remove you far from your land; and that I should drive you out, and ye should perish."
Jeremiah 29:23, "Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours' wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD."
Ezekiel 13:8, "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD."
Ezekiel 13:19, "And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?"
Ezekiel 13:22-23, "Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life: Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD."
Ezekiel 22:28, "And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken."
Ezekiel 24:12, "She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire."
Daniel 11:27, "…and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper:"
Hosea 4:2, "By swearing, and lying…they break out and blood toucheth blood."
Hosea 7:3, "They make the king glad with their wickedness, and the princes with their lies."
Hosea 10:13, "Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men."
Jonah 2:8, "They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy."
Micah 6:12-13, "…the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth. Therefore also will I make thee sick in smiting thee, in making thee desolate because of thy sins."
Nahum 3:1, "Woe to the bloody city! it is all full of lies"
Zephaniah 3:13, "The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth:"
Zechariah 8:16, "These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour;"
Zechariah 13:3, "...Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: "
Malachi 2:6, "The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips:"
Matthew 15:19, "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts…false witness…These are the things which defile a man: "
John 8:44, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Acts 5:3, "...why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, "
Acts 26:25, "But he [Paul] said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness."
Romans 1:24-25, "…through the lusts of their own hearts…Who changed the truth of God into a lie,"
Romans 9:1, "I say the truth in Christ, I lie not,"
2 Corinthians 11:31, "The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not."
Galatians 1:20, "Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not."
Ephesians 4:25, "Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another."
Colossians 3:9, "Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;"
1 Timothy 1:9-10, "…the law is not made for a righteous man, but…for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;"
1 Timothy 2:7, "Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not)"
1 Timothy 4:2, "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"
James 3:14, "But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth."
Titus 1:2, "...God…cannot lie, "
Hebrews 6:18, "...in which it was impossible for God to lie, "
1 John 1:6, "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"
1 John 2:4, "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
1 John 2:21, "I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth."
1 John 2:22, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
1 John 2:27, "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."
1 John 4:20, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"
Revelation 2:2, "…thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:"
Revelation 3:9, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which…do lie;"
Revelation 21:8, "…and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:"
Revelation 21:27, "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life."
Revelation 22:14-15, "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are…whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

So i ask where the bible mentions heavy metal and i get the "answer" that building houses on sand is a bad idea. Yeah very logical.

If you cant or don't want to answer just say so instead of changing the subject.

So, because the words "heavy metal is bad" aren't in the Bible, the explanation that doing things which do not glorify God is bad does not extend to listening to people who praise Satan.

By that logic, you will no doubt agree that there is no such thing as "separation of church and state" in the US, because those words are not in the Constitution.

Right?

MSNBC on Tuesday continued its attempt to dismiss Republican candidates as extremist, hitting Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell and others as "mean girls" who are unqualified for office. Jansing appeared shocked that the Delaware candidate pointed out the phrase "separation of church and state" isn't in the Constitution. She then read from the First Amendment, but failed to find the words.

After playing a clip of O'Donnell from this morning's debate, Jansing sputtered, "I thought she had to be kidding." She then pulled out her "handy, dandy" pocket Constitution and quoted, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech.' Amendment number one. I don't even know where to go with that." [MP3 audio here. Click on the article for video.]

What Jansing was thinking of is the Establishment Clause. O'Donnell's point was that restricting the creation of the official religion isn't the same thing as walling off faith from public life. Despite the indignant tone of Jansing, "separation of church and state" isn't in the text.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...#ixzz25SXveEdF

[Esther B.]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

I haven't listened to enough heavy metal to know just how Satanic it is, but I can't the stuff at all. It's too loud and there's too much bass and no melody whatsoever. Seriously, who wants to listen to a bunch of people screaming stuff that can't even be understood? But I suppose that it's a good thing that the so called "lyrics" aren't understandable because said lyrics are probably some kind of vile Satanic language that no good Christian person should ever have to hear.

[metalbrain]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

No friend,

Yes i did. If you read the whole post you see i quoted a post i did a while ago

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Well i asked all of you to show where the bible says heavy metal is bad a long time ago so i asked you first. So why are you too avoiding to answer?

Because it's an absurd question.

The Bible doesn't specifically say flying a plane load of screaming people into a tall building purely for the sake of causing mass death and destruction is a bad thing - so does that make it ok?

Do you see how childish your argument is? The Bible informs our conscious of what is moral behavior. That is why The Bible doesn't have to mention things like Heavy Metal music, Goths, Juggalos, Video Games, Democrats or Model Rail Roading is pure evil. Our' hearts KNOW it.

[metalbrain]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Let me guess. The christian "logic" is that one person do something wrong and you can condemn a whole genre thinking everyone is the same? Everything to make it as easy as possible for you.
Then its no problem to do the same thing with christians. So by your own logic christians are nothing but hateful, arrogant, ignorant murderers.

And its very interesting to see you create a thread where you attack a music genre but cant back anything up with your precious bible, even though you DEMAND it all the time from anyone else. If you cant back your statements with scripture, don't demand others to do it.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: God makes a statement agaist Heavy Metal

Let me guess. The christian "logic" is that one person do something wrong and you can condemn a whole genre thinking everyone is the same? Everything to make it as easy as possible for you.
Then its no problem to do the same thing with christians. So by your own logic christians are nothing but hateful, arrogant, ignorant murderers.

And its very interesting to see you create a thread where you attack a music genre but cant back anything up with your precious bible, even though you DEMAND it all the time from anyone else. If you cant back your statements with scripture, don't demand others to do it.

If you bothered to read this thread from the beginning, you'd see that we have many, many times pointed out God's command to:

1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Can this be anything but the appearance of evil?