For Hypocritical Christians who want gay rights...

[Manny]

something from another discussion board...

"When you helped your church ban gay marriage, how many souls do you think you saved?

When you went door to door, or handed out fliers at the grocery store, how many people saw God’s grace in you? How many people saw Jesus’ love for the sinner?

When you gave money to the campaigns to pass gay marriage bans, how many of the hungry did you feed? How many of the needy did you shelter?

When you voted in private to take away the rights of your fellow U.S. citizens simply because they have different beliefs than yours, how many people did you convert? How many sins did you prevent?

People will still have gay sex. They just won’t be able to visit their loved ones when they are dying, they will be subject to a different tax code, their estates will be unnecessarily tied up in court on their passing.

Great job, I bet Jesus is really cheering you on.

You hypocrites! You are being cruel to people just because they are different and too weak to defend themselves politically. You are teaching the rest of the world that your church is about cowardly hate. You are perverting the core values of Christianity, and you are undermining the freedoms of our state.

You are driving people away from the church, not bringing people in.

Yes, I know, you think these people are sinning and you think sinners should be punished. Do you sin? Does that mean we should be able to stop you from visiting your loved ones in the hospital? Or we should bar you from raising your kids? Or you should have to pay more taxes upon the death of your spouse? Would any of these things stop you from sinning?

For those of you that homeschool, you do realize a lot of people think that you are sinning by giving your kids an inferior education? You may not think that’s what happening — I certainly don’t think that’s happening in my home — but plenty of people believe this firmly. Does that mean it should be OK for others to take away your right to teach your children?

Absolutely not.

So why on Earth do you think you should get to deny other people their rights, just because you think they are sinning?

It’s a free country (for some more than for others) so of course you are free to spread whatever gospel you please. But if you really are a Christian, if you really want to live a Christ-like life, please stop and think a little bit about what you are doing. I know some of you are out there.

How many souls did Prop 8 save for the church?

I’d venture to say it lost quite a few."

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: For Hypocritical Christians who want to stop gay rights...

something from another discussion board...

"When you helped your church ban gay marriage, how many souls do you think you saved?

None. Fags can't be saved.

When you went door to door, or handed out fliers at the grocery store, how many people saw God’s grace in you? How many people saw Jesus’ love for the sinner?

God's grace is obvious in me. I glow with it. Jesus doesn't love sinners anymore.

When you gave money to the campaigns to pass gay marriage bans, how many of the hungry did you feed? How many of the needy did you shelter?

We don't give money away. Are you kidding?

When you voted in private to take away the rights of your fellow U.S. citizens simply because they have different beliefs than yours, how many people did you convert? How many sins did you prevent?

If we are lucky we converted all of them. Our job isn't to prevent sin. It's to kill people who sin.

People will still have gay sex. They just won’t be able to visit their loved ones when they are dying, they will be subject to a different tax code, their estates will be unnecessarily tied up in court on their passing.

So?

Great job, I bet Jesus is really cheering you on.

You can be sure that He is!

You hypocrites! You are being cruel to people just because they are different and too weak to defend themselves politically. You are teaching the rest of the world that your church is about cowardly hate. You are perverting the core values of Christianity, and you are undermining the freedoms of our state.

What's your point, faggot?

You are driving people away from the church, not bringing people in.

Only qweers. Well, and goth, wickans, poor people, darkies....the dregs of society who are stealing our air.

Yes, I know, you think these people are sinning and you think sinners should be punished. Do you sin? Does that mean we should be able to stop you from visiting your loved ones in the hospital? Or we should bar you from raising your kids? Or you should have to pay more taxes upon the death of your spouse? Would any of these things stop you from sinning?

I can't sin. I am bathed in the warm blood of the Savior(tm).

For those of you that homeschool, you do realize a lot of people think that you are sinning by giving your kids an inferior education? You may not think that’s what happening — I certainly don’t think that’s happening in my home — but plenty of people believe this firmly. Does that mean it should be OK for others to take away your right to teach your children?

Absolutely not.

Absolutely!

So why on Earth do you think you should get to deny other people their rights, just because you think they are sinning?

Because GOD orders us to.


It’s a free country (for some more than for others) so of course you are free to spread whatever gospel you please. But if you really are a Christian, if you really want to live a Christ-like life, please stop and think a little bit about what you are doing. I know some of you are out there.

How many souls did Prop 8 save for the church?

All of the children who won't have to be subjected to the gay agenda.

I’d venture to say it lost quite a few."

I'd venture to say that you are the Devil's disciple.

[Wide-Open]

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Manny, you have to be careful with copying material from other people's blogs - even if they are fag enablers.

We have daily visits from the thought police and from copyright shysters... perhaps you might explicitly want to state that you stole this drivel from here.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Would I seriously want to go to Heaven if it were filled with Kweers? Would anyone (other than kweers)?

OK, you could get your apartment color-coordinated, your wife could get her hair done well and I suppose there would be endless ballet performances but doing without those is a price worth paying - Prop 8 didn't go far enough.

[Meek and Humble]

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When you helped your church ban murder, how many souls do you think you saved?

When you went posting up wanted posters for killers, how many people saw God's grace in you? How many people saw Jesus’ love for the sinner?

When you gave money to the campaigns to have stricter punishments for murderers, how many of the hungry did you feed? How many of the needy did you shelter?

When you voted in private to take away the freedom of your fellow U.S. citizens simply because they did something you don't like, how many people did you convert? How many sins did you prevent?

People will still kill. They just won’t be able to visit their loved ones when they are dying, they will be imprisoned, they will get raped by their fellow inmates.

Great job, I bet Jesus is really cheering you on.

You hypocrites! You are being cruel to people just because they are different and too weak to defend themselves politically. You are teaching the rest of the world that your church is about cowardly hate. You are perverting the core values of Christianity, and you are undermining the freedoms of our state.

You are driving people away from the church, not bringing people in.

Yes, I know, you think these people are sinning and you think sinners should be punished. Do you sin? Does that mean we should be able to stop you from visiting your loved ones in the hospital? Or we should bar you from raising your kids? Or you should have to get raped by prisoners? Would any of these things stop you from sinning?

For those of you that homeschool, you do realize a lot of people think that you are sinning by giving your kids an inferior education? You may not think that’s what happening — I certainly don’t think that’s happening in my home — but plenty of people believe this firmly. Does that mean it should be OK for others to take away your right to teach your children?

Absolutely not.

So why on Earth do you think you should get to deny other people their rights, just because you think they are sinning?

It’s a free country (for some more than for others) so of course you are free to spread whatever gospel you please. But if you really are a Christian, if you really want to live a Christ-like life, please stop and think a little bit about what you are doing. I know some of you are out there.

How many souls does imprisoning murderers save for the church?

I’d venture to say it lost quite a few.

[Manny]

Re: For Hypocritical Christians who want to stop gay rights...

I'd venture to say that you are the Devil's disciple.

Honestly, I'm straight, and I was raised in a household that is fanatically pro right-wing christian agenda. (My grandparents listen to Rush Limbaugh and take him seriously) But that's besides the point; I'm conservative in the extreme, and I feel that the right of anyone to be married is defined in our society. Our society, has, to this point, been grounded in tradition. However, it is a time of change in this country; it is a time of change across the world, and it is time society picked up on that. There is no reason why two men, two women cannot be married in the same way that a man and woman can. To anyone who thinks differently, all I will say to you is this: Why not? What says that they can't be married? The bible doesn't. You can raise the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, but the key difference there is that the city was corrupt for other reasons, not just because they were lying with men. The townspeople were trying to forcibly commit rape and adultery; two sins acknowledged in almost every culture, religion, and society in the world. If you have any questions, please, message me, I always enjoy a good, healthy debaT

[Nobar King]

Re: For Hypocritical Christians who want to stop gay rights...

Honestly, I'm straight, and I was raised in a household that is fanatically pro right-wing christian agenda. (My grandparents listen to Rush Limbaugh and take him seriously) But that's besides the point; I'm conservative in the extreme, and I feel that the right of anyone to be married is defined in our society. Our society, has, to this point, been grounded in tradition.

Nice way to disarm your reader...

However, it is a time of change in this country; it is a time of change across the world, and it is time society picked up on that.

no, it's not.

There is no reason why two men, two women cannot be married in the same way that a man and woman can.

Yes, there is.

To anyone who thinks differently, all I will say to you is this: Why not?

That's it?

If you have any questions, please, message me, I always enjoy a good, healthy debaT

This is not a debate forum.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: For Hypocritical Christians who want to stop gay rights...

I always enjoy a good, healthy debaT

It's not a "debaT" forum either.

If you were a Christian, you would never be sticking up for queers. And since you have already lied about your age, I assume you are lying about being a heterosexual as well. Normal people who fear God don't spend their time trying to convince Christians to tolerate sodomy. That defies God's Plan as well as common sense.

We follow the Bible, not queer-lovers like you Manny.

[Brother Lazarus]

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You are driving people away from the church, not bringing people in.

Yes, I know, you think these people are sinning and you think sinners should be punished. Do you sin? Does that mean we should be able to stop you from visiting your loved ones in the hospital? Or we should bar you from raising your kids? Or you should have to pay more taxes upon the death of your spouse? Would any of these things stop you from sinning?

For those of you that homeschool, you do realize a lot of people think that you are sinning by giving your kids an inferior education? You may not think that’s what happening — I certainly don’t think that’s happening in my home — but plenty of people believe this firmly. Does that mean it should be OK for others to take away your right to teach your children?

Absolutely not.

So why on Earth do you think you should get to deny other people their rights, just because you think they are sinning?

It’s a free country (for some more than for others) so of course you are free to spread whatever gospel you please. But if you really are a Christian, if you really want to live a Christ-like life, please stop and think a little bit about what you are doing. I know some of you are out there.

How many souls did Prop 8 save for the church?

I’d venture to say it lost quite a few."

For convenience sake i didn't quote all of your diatribe. Consider this;

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

We obey and respect God's Holy Word as expressed in the KJV 1611. Every word, not just the parts that may make you feel good. Why would we want to bring in unCured Homers? Why would you expect us to come over to your view? Why would we accept abominations into our midst?

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[Pastor Nereu Gargalo]

Re: For Hypocritical Christians who want gay rights...

something from another discussion board...

"When you helped your church ban gay marriage, how many souls do you think you saved?

A great many. It is written: Leviticus 19:29
Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

The same can be said of an entire Christian community. If we allow butt loving, excrement diving sodomites to marry against the WILL OF GOD, we could expect nothing but HIS DIVINE WRATH!

And we would deserve it.

AMEN

When you went door to door, or handed out fliers at the grocery store, how many people saw God’s grace in you? How many people saw Jesus’ love for the sinner?

I have never done this. I have no time for those Jesus did not SAVE.

Isaiah 65:25
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

AMEN

When you gave money to the campaigns to pass gay marriage bans, how many of the hungry did you feed? How many of the needy did you shelter?

I have only used money in Papua so that officials would turn their heads and allow my mission to do GOD'S HOLLY WORK.

Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

AMEN

When you voted in private to take away the rights of your fellow U.S. citizens simply because they have different beliefs than yours, how many people did you convert? How many sins did you prevent?

Not a US citizen.

You presume too much.

People will still have gay sex. They just won’t be able to visit their loved ones when they are dying, they will be subject to a different tax code, their estates will be unnecessarily tied up in court on their passing.

Great job, I bet Jesus is really cheering you on.

I am sure HE approves.

Deuteronomy 23:17
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

AMEN

You hypocrites! You are being cruel to people just because they are different and too weak to defend themselves politically. You are teaching the rest of the world that your church is about cowardly hate. You are perverting the core values of Christianity, and you are undermining the freedoms of our state.

You know nothing of Jesus, nor the religion HE founded. You seem to believe HE approves of people reveling in filth, urine, semen and excrement. This is not so. Perhaps that is how you spend your free time, but it is not what JESUS WANTS!

1 Kings 14:24
And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.

AMEN

You are driving people away from the church, not bringing people in.

Prove it.

Yes, I know, you think these people are sinning and you think sinners should be punished. Do you sin?


Romans 8:33:
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

AMEN


Does that mean we should be able to stop you from visiting your loved ones in the hospital? Or we should bar you from raising your kids? Or you should have to pay more taxes upon the death of your spouse? Would any of these things stop you from sinning?

These people are vile. It is so simple, JESUS hates them all and has given them away to the Devil. HE wants them to suffer in the afterlife. As do we. If one picksup a Bible and actually reads it before coming here and condemning us, one will see for oneself. Take for example, Romans 1.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28.And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29.Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30.Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31.Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32.Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

AMEN

For those of you that homeschool, you do realize a lot of people think that you are sinning by giving your kids an inferior education? You may not think that’s what happening — I certainly don’t think that’s happening in my home — but plenty of people believe this firmly. Does that mean it should be OK for others to take away your right to teach your children?

Absolutely not.

This has nothing to do with me.

So why on Earth do you think you should get to deny other people their rights, just because you think they are sinning?

See above.

It’s a free country (for some more than for others) so of course you are free to spread whatever gospel you please. But if you really are a Christian, if you really want to live a Christ-like life, please stop and think a little bit about what you are doing. I know some of you are out there.

Free country? No such thing.

How many souls did Prop 8 save for the church?

I’d venture to say it lost quite a few."

Nobody cares what you think.

[JennyD]

Re: For Hypocritical Christians who want gay rights...

all I will say to you is this: Why not? What says that they can't be married? The bible doesn't. You can raise the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, but the key difference there is that the city was corrupt for other reasons, not just because they were lying with men. The townspeople were trying to forcibly commit rape and adultery; two sins acknowledged in almost every culture, religion, and society in the world. If you have any questions, please, message me, I always enjoy a good, healthy debaT

Nobody mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah.

Twice in the Old Testament God commands us to execute homosexuals. That would seem to preclude their getting married.

In the New Testament, Paul indicates that they will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. That means they go to Hell. Allowing them to marry would be saying it's OK with God, which would be helping them get to Hell instead of steering them toward Heaven.

What sort of people would want to do that? Well, besides you?

[Krusty-Nicole]

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Gays have a mental disorder or so, but there are people who chose to be gay.
God hopes for them to return to Him. I think He inspires the normal people to do actions that would help them return, and some do (gays I mean).
God doesen't want anybody to go to hell, and he is very sad when He loses souls, and God created every single human being for Heaven. God wants everybody to be happy. Thats why He died on the cross for our sins.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Nobody cares what you think.

You preach it Pastor! GLORY!

[JennyD]

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Gays have a mental disorder or so, but there are people who chose to be gay.
God hopes for them to return to Him. I think He inspires the normal people to do actions that would help them return, and some do (gays I mean).

True, a handful do reject their sinful choice and turn to God. But God says in the Bible to execute them, not to give them counseling.

God doesen't want anybody to go to hell, and he is very sad when He loses souls, and God created every single human being for Heaven. God wants everybody to be happy. Thats why He died on the cross for our sins.

Could you show me where the Bible says that God wants every human to go to Heaven?

Can you show me where it says He doesn't want anybody to go to Hell?

Who created Hell, and for what purpose, Kristy?

The Bible says that God will resurrect all the dead sinners at Judgment Day, and cast them into everlasting torment. If God is truly sad about this situation, why would He not simply act in a merciful manner and leave them dead, or cause them to cease to exist? He created them, He can certainly make them cease to exist.

Why does He find it necessary to burn the vast majority of humanity alive, for all eternity, in unimaginable agony from which there is no escape, in many cases simply because they were born into a culture that didn't teach them about Jesus, or because they were sexually abused by priests and lost faith, or for other reasons?

I think your priests have been telling you fairy tales, Kristy, and ignoring what the Bible says.

God hates sinners with a boundless hatred. The Bible says so. That's why He resurrects them from death so He can torture them in the Lake of Fire, which He has created for that sole purpose.

[Krusty-Nicole]

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True, a handful do reject their sinful choice and turn to God. But God says in the Bible to execute them, not to give them counseling.

Could you show me where the Bible says that God wants every human to go to Heaven?

Can you show me where it says He doesn't want anybody to go to Hell?

Who created Hell, and for what purpose, Kristy?

The Bible says that God will resurrect all the dead sinners at Judgment Day, and cast them into everlasting torment. If God is truly sad about this situation, why would He not simply act in a merciful manner and leave them dead, or cause them to cease to exist? He created them, He can certainly make them cease to exist.

Why does He find it necessary to burn the vast majority of humanity alive, for all eternity, in unimaginable agony from which there is no escape, in many cases simply because they were born into a culture that didn't teach them about Jesus, or because they were sexually abused by priests and lost faith, or for other reasons?

I think your priests have been telling you fairy tales, Kristy, and ignoring what the Bible says.

God hates sinners with a boundless hatred. The Bible says so. That's why He resurrects them from death so He can torture them in the Lake of Fire, which He has created for that sole purpose.

Hell was created by God to punish Lucifer and therefore it was given to Lucifer and he is in charge wit the souls that reject and neglect God not those with mental disorders.
And I think you guys think too much for God.
Just read the Bible carefully and apply it correctly.